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When asked by The Straits Times to elaborate, an EDB spokesman said manpower flexibilities for the applications of some team members will be provided, if needed.


 



 



"This includes considering alternative factors in the application if needed, such as the stock options remuneration of the core team members, or if they have deep skills in place of formal academic qualifications," said the spokesman.


 

The Ministry of Manpower's website states that the EP is for foreign professionals who have a job offer here, work in a managerial, executive or specialised job, earn a fixed monthly salary of at least $3,600 and have acceptable qualifications.


It added that this usually means a good university degree, professional qualifications or specialist skills.


 


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Its a sensitive issue. The EP dont have to pay CPF. So the cost is lower . If you get local, it would result in higher cost.


Problem also exist in integration in the workplace. 80 to 90% of the folks are non singaporean and the local feel alienated. ( just trying to avoid lim kopi for sedition act )


So when it comes to such sensitive issue, I wonder how can we address this?


1. is the CPF contribution


2. the reduction of opportunity for the local.


If you read the article, seems like those question raise by the reporters were unanswered or avoided.


I wonder if it would be helpful if they allow the Tech group to have a quota of sort ? maybe 60% local and 40% FT and raise the corporate tax rate higher if the company does not comply ?


 


 


I shudder when I read that you can even include non academic qualified to be allowed into the workforce when the locals are rejected ?


"This includes considering alternative factors in the application if needed, such as the stock options remuneration of the core team members, or if they have deep skills in place of formal academic qualifications," said the spokesman.


 


I believe we do ourselves a disfavour when all we do is say "chim.. dont know."


 


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Would it not have help if the chenhu came out with a joint initiative to train the local with a 1:4 ratio as well?


 


The agencies said that under the programme, technology companies will have the EP application of their core team members facilitated to help them get the talent they need to set up teams here.


 


 


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"On July 29, Monday, the country’s Minister for Trade and Industry, Chan Chun Sing, said that the country needs to do more specifically in the area of attracting talent from all over the world."

http://theindependent.sg/chan-chun-sing-says-singapore-must-do-more-to-attract-international-talent/

 

PAP wouldn't have come out to say such thing after GE2011 where foreign influx was a hot button issue. Has our dear minister thought this is no longer an issue in today's SG?

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Shouldn't the doors be open for work permit ?

We need manpower to do menial task/semi-skill jobs, not talents to compete with our PMETs. We have so many engineering grads from poly and uni. Why cant they be hired or trained?

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Shouldn't the doors be open for work permit ?

We need manpower to do menial task/semi-skill jobs, not talents to compete with our PMETs. We have so many engineering grads from poly and uni. Why cant they be hired or trained?

 

This point got saliva talk until not saliva. From short tongue talk until long tongue

 

We need WP and not EP

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what I am afraid is that overnite...tom, dick and harry will have a masters in technology from the epson printer

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Thats why i always maintain new citizens is their 票舱.

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When asked by The Straits Times to elaborate, an EDB spokesman said manpower flexibilities for the applications of some team members will be provided, if needed.

 

 

"This includes considering alternative factors in the application if needed, such as the stock options remuneration of the core team members, or if they have deep skills in place of formal academic qualifications," said the spokesman.

The Ministry of Manpower's website states that the EP is for foreign professionals who have a job offer here, work in a managerial, executive or specialised job, earn a fixed monthly salary of at least $3,600 and have acceptable qualifications.

It added that this usually means a good university degree, professional qualifications or specialist skills.

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Its a sensitive issue. The EP dont have to pay CPF. So the cost is lower . If you get local, it would result in higher cost.

Problem also exist in integration in the workplace. 80 to 90% of the folks are non singaporean and the local feel alienated. ( just trying to avoid lim kopi for sedition act )

So when it comes to such sensitive issue, I wonder how can we address this?

1. is the CPF contribution

2. the reduction of opportunity for the local.

If you read the article, seems like those question raise by the reporters were unanswered or avoided.

I wonder if it would be helpful if they allow the Tech group to have a quota of sort ? maybe 60% local and 40% FT and raise the corporate tax rate higher if the company does not comply ?

 

I shudder when I read that you can even include non academic qualified to be allowed into the workforce when the locals are rejected ?

"This includes considering alternative factors in the application if needed, such as the stock options remuneration of the core team members, or if they have deep skills in place of formal academic qualifications," said the spokesman.

I believe we do ourselves a disfavour when all we do is say "chim.. dont know."

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Would it not have help if the chenhu came out with a joint initiative to train the local with a 1:4 ratio as well?

The agencies said that under the programme, technology companies will have the EP application of their core team members facilitated to help them get the talent they need to set up teams here.

60% local?

 

I Guess u don’t work in the tech industry

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Time to leave... oh ya... I already left [:p][laugh] [laugh]

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Shouldn't the doors be open for work permit ?

We need manpower to do menial task/semi-skill jobs, not talents to compete with our PMETs. We have so many engineering grads from poly and uni. Why cant they be hired or trained?

I think the tech industry has different kinds of meaning. I feel the government needs to be more selective. I think those Philippine EPs can be easily replaced by any Tom dick Harry local.

 

Some tech hires from overseas really are better than locals. Why? Engineering locally has degenerated into a dumping ground because of the bad environment, pay, reputation.

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60% local?

 

I Guess u donât work in the tech industry

I work in tech industry.

 

Our local grads.... Sigh...

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I work in tech industry.

 

Our local grads.... Sigh...

 

Only the not so smart ones would opt to study engineering/Tech in Singapore, cos anytime their jobs can be replaced by cheaper foreigners with open leg policy.  Unlike law/medicine which are protected (never see open leg welcome for this group)

 

So you ended up with CMI local grads who were not smart enough to make the correct decisions in the first place.

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I work in tech industry.

 

Our local grads.... Sigh...

 

Sad but true, i agree..

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try asking those foreigners go for reservist every year and pass your ippt

 

 

if unlucky....might be facing 2 years db just like the sergeant

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Time to leave... oh ya... I already left [:p][laugh] [laugh]

 

typhoon no 8 coming in an hour....of course leave office lah

 

:D 

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good for pap, good foreigners.

if you're the chao sinkie whose job is taken over by cheap foreiigners.

hey, you asked for it . [laugh]

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You guys have no idea how hard it is to hire local ppl. Not that we don't want...

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You guys have no idea how hard it is to hire local ppl. Not that we don't want...

Actually every person in the tech sector knows this. It’s just those people who not in the sector will complain...

 

It’s actually a chicken and egg thing. Hiring more foreigners actually make it less attractive to locals, making the local tech grads quality drop, making companies hire more foreigners...

 

To the lay person, companies WANT WANT to hire locals because foreigners don’t stay Long... no attachment to Singapore...

 

But cannot find good ones...

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I was in startup for 2 years. We tried... Gave up. In the end managed to get a very good and hardworking Vietnamese. This guy in turn helped us get engineers to work for us offshore in Vietnam. 

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try asking those foreigners go for reservist every year and pass your ippt

 

 

if unlucky....might be facing 2 years db just like the sergeant

 

agree sian to the max, but not like he wants it to happen

 

 

better off to keng n stay low

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Shouldn't the doors be open for work permit ?

We need manpower to do menial task/semi-skill jobs, not talents to compete with our PMETs. We have so many engineering grads from poly and uni. Why cant they be hired or trained?

 

Is this far to those of us who can't study?

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"On July 29, Monday, the countryâs Minister for Trade and Industry, Chan Chun Sing, said that the country needs to do more specifically in the area of attracting talent from all over the world."

http://theindependent.sg/chan-chun-sing-says-singapore-must-do-more-to-attract-international-talent/

 

PAP wouldn't have come out to say such thing after GE2011 where foreign influx was a hot button issue. Has our dear minister thought this is no longer an issue in today's SG?

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