inlinesix Supersonic September 10, 2019 Share September 10, 2019 ↡ Advertisement 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dappercivility 4th Gear September 10, 2019 Share September 10, 2019 Norway plans to go fully electric within the next 6 years, that is no small feat. Germans still seem to be coming out high performance internal combustion engine vehicles. What do you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic September 10, 2019 Author Share September 10, 2019 43 minutes ago, dappercivility said: Norway plans to go fully electric within the next 6 years, that is no small feat. Germans still seem to be coming out high performance internal combustion engine vehicles. What do you think? German big 3 automakers are moving towards EV concurrently with high performance ICE vehicles. Merc got EQC BMW got i3, i8 & ix3 VAG got e-Golf & Porky Taycan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic September 10, 2019 Share September 10, 2019 (edited) If German cars cannot survive, every other car in the World is gg. This video is outdated. Edited September 10, 2019 by Mockngbrd 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangadrool Supersonic September 10, 2019 Share September 10, 2019 (edited) Where does the battery comes from? Where does the electricity from the charging stations mostly come from? Don't get me wrong that I am anti-electric cars.... Probably as bad as current if not worse off in terms of pollution and destruction. The German may just spring up some surprise with ICE cars that run on waste... like urine. 😅 Edited September 10, 2019 by Kangadrool 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0y0ta Supercharged September 10, 2019 Share September 10, 2019 49 minutes ago, Kangadrool said: Where does the battery comes from? Where does the electricity from the charging stations mostly come from? Don't get me wrong that I am anti-electric cars.... Probably as bad as current if not worse off in terms of pollution and destruction. The German may just spring up some surprise with ICE cars that run on waste... like urine. 😅 The video is filmed as if electric cars are nirvana. Actually the bloody battery suck up a lot of resources to manufacture, electricity also need to generate from somewhere (like fossil fuels) and worse is that millions of old huge Li-ion battery are going to be like nuclear waste problems x1000. ICE cars are not great, but may not be much worse than the BEVs 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 10:27 PM, Kangadrool said: Where does the battery comes from? Where does the electricity from the charging stations mostly come from? Don't get me wrong that I am anti-electric cars.... Probably as bad as current if not worse off in terms of pollution and destruction. The German may just spring up some surprise with ICE cars that run on waste... like urine. 😅 More importantly, how to contain the fire in electric cars if handphone and PMD can go kaboom. And at the end of 10 years scrap, will there be a tax on disposal of batt ? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 (edited) One thing ppl forget is that fossil fuel is going to run out soon. Some alternative will have to keep cars, planes, ships going. If the car makers dont start changing now...then when? I think most car makers have some electric plan backup on standby. In the mean time it's still ICE which will dominate. Edited September 12, 2019 by Watwheels 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Watwheels said: One thing ppl forget is that fossil fuel is going to run out soon. Some alternative will have to keep cars, planes, ships going. If the car makers dont start changing now...then when? I think most car makers have some electric plan backup on standby. In the mean time it's still ICE which will dominate. How do you determine if the batt will kill the earth due to the toxic nature of the Batt ? One huge resistance to getting the Hybrid is the weight of the Batt as well as the tax on ownership. Edited September 12, 2019 by Sdf4786k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, Watwheels said: One thing ppl forget is that fossil fuel is going to run out soon. Some alternative will have to keep cars, planes, ships going. If the car makers dont start changing now...then when? I think most car makers have some electric plan backup on standby. In the mean time it's still ICE which will dominate. Electric cars are not standby. With how legislation in many other countries are going, ICEs are the standby. Not electric. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceecookie 5th Gear September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 Definitely still have people buying conti cars even if it's electric models. I don't want to lose face by buying a tiong electric car XD 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sdf4786k said: How do you determine if the batt will kill the earth due to the toxic nature of the Batt ? One huge resistance to getting the Hybrid is the weight of the Batt as well as the tax on ownership. Whatever Man do will pollute the Earth one way or the other. It didnt bother us for so many decades why should it bother us now? Climate change? Or is it due to politics? 6 minutes ago, Mockngbrd said: Electric cars are not standby. With how legislation in many other countries are going, ICEs are the standby. Not electric. Legislation is just one of the many factors. Like the video suggest the car maker is not going to give up 100 over years of ICE tech just like that. I think they will still go on with ICE cars in nations like Africa who has little or no such legislation on cars. So far we have seen small countries who will be making the change becos it will be easy for them to switch. For China theirs is a real pollution issue with the sudden boom of car population. For other nation it might not be a straight forward solution where tax on fuel is one of their income. They have been so dependant on this income for so many years. To many factors to look at. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 (edited) They won't give up on ICE, but ICE will no longer have as much development priority moving forward. Hence not standby. Jag might move to all EV in the future.https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/jaguar-considers-transformation-ev-only-brand and BMW's most recently change the big boss because the previous one took focus away from developing their EV cars, cars in which the brand was actually a pioneer with their i3 and i8. But because their previous in-charge decided that Hybrid was the way to go and not full EV, they are in trouble as they don't have anything to compete with the Porsche Taycan and Mercedes EQ range. https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2019/07/bmw-is-playing-it-safe-with-electric-cars-and-its-development-chief-makes-no-apologies-for-that/ Edited September 12, 2019 by Mockngbrd 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury1 Turbocharged September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 11:19 PM, t0y0ta said: The video is filmed as if electric cars are nirvana. Actually the bloody battery suck up a lot of resources to manufacture, electricity also need to generate from somewhere (like fossil fuels) and worse is that millions of old huge Li-ion battery are going to be like nuclear waste problems x1000. ICE cars are not great, but may not be much worse than the BEVs Not to mentioned scrapping every combustion car on the road with electric will be an insane carbon footprint, if there was a way to reuse the existing vehicle and swap out components that might be more a better approach (hydrogen cars?) Just to add the waste material from harvesting rare earths for electric motors is also no joke. Better we move everyone to public transport lol 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisbosco 3rd Gear September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 10:27 PM, Kangadrool said: Where does the battery comes from? Where does the electricity from the charging stations mostly come from? Don't get me wrong that I am anti-electric cars.... Probably as bad as current if not worse off in terms of pollution and destruction. The German may just spring up some surprise with ICE cars that run on waste... like urine. 😅 then next time long road trip no need stop for petrol. make sure you and your passengers drink lots of water before setting off.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic September 12, 2019 Author Share September 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Mercury1 said: Not to mentioned scrapping every combustion car on the road with electric will be an insane carbon footprint, if there was a way to reuse the existing vehicle and swap out components that might be more a better approach (hydrogen cars?) Just to add the waste material from harvesting rare earths for electric motors is also no joke. Better we move everyone to public transport lol We have been scrapping ICE car every 10 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic September 12, 2019 Author Share September 12, 2019 In Frankfurt Motor Show, VW only showcase EV under ID3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 10:21 PM, Mockngbrd said: If German cars cannot survive, every other car in the World is gg. This video is outdated. The Audi e tron has got very good reviews. Comparable to anything tesla gets. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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