Vinceng Turbocharged October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Victor68 said: So what does a Singapore citizen gets where naturalized citizen don't leh? Singaporean means Singaporean. No difference in privilege irregardless whether you are a naturalised Singaporean who don't need to serve 2 years National Service and 13 years of Reservist and IPPT. Edited October 30, 2019 by Vinceng ↡ Advertisement 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitvip Supersonic October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, Victor68 said: So what does a Singapore citizen gets where naturalized citizen don't leh? NS? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysc3 Twincharged October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, Vinceng said: He has deactivated his LinkedIn account. There is no need to do so if one is not in the wrong. This is very strong signal of his guilt. Must be bff with Mercedes girl.... Where oh where is my Mercedes girl?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playtime Twincharged October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, Fitvip said: NS? Don't spread fake news... ther correct term is "privilege" .😆 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sake Twincharged October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Victor68 said: So what does a Singapore citizen gets where naturalized citizen don't leh? citizenship by naturalisation can be revoked under certain circumstances. citizenship by birth cannot. CONSTITUTION OF SINGAPORE Citizenship by naturalisation 127.—(1) Subject to clause (4), the Government may, upon application made by any person of or over the age of 21 years who is not a citizen of Singapore, grant a certificate of naturalisation to that person if the Government is satisfied — (a)that he has resided in Singapore for the required periods and intends, if the certificate is granted, to do so permanently; (b)that he is of good character; and (c)that he has an adequate knowledge of the national language. (2) The periods of residence in Singapore or the relevant part of it which are required for the grant of a certificate of naturalisation are periods which amount in the aggregate to not less than 10 years in the 12 years immediately preceding the date of the application for the certificate and which include the 12 months immediately preceding that date. (3) A person to whom a certificate of naturalisation is granted shall be a citizen of Singapore by naturalisation from the date on which the certificate is granted. (4) No certificate of naturalisation shall be granted to any person until he has taken the Oath of Renunciation, Allegiance and Loyalty in the form set out in the Second Schedule. Deprivation of citizenship 129.—(1) A citizen of Singapore who is a citizen by registration or by naturalisation shall cease to be such a citizen if he is deprived of his citizenship by an order of the Government made in accordance with this Article.(2) The Government may, by order, deprive any such citizen of his citizenship if the Government is satisfied that the registration or the certificate of naturalisation — (a)was obtained by means of fraud, false representation or the concealment of any material fact; or (b)was effected or granted by mistake. (3) The Government may, by order, deprive of his citizenship —(a)any person who is a citizen of Singapore by naturalisation if the Government is satisfied — (i)that he has shown himself by act or speech to be disloyal or disaffected towards Singapore; or (ii)that he has, during any war in which Singapore is or was engaged, unlawfully traded or communicated with an enemy or been engaged in or associated with any business which to his knowledge was carried on in such manner as to assist an enemy in that war; or (b)any citizen of Singapore by registration or by naturalisation if the Government is satisfied — (i)that he has, within the period of 5 years after registration or naturalisation, been sentenced in any country to imprisonment for a term of not less than one year or to a fine of not less than $5,000 or the equivalent in the currency of that country, and has not received a free pardon in respect of the offence for which he was so sentenced; or (ii)that he has, at any time after registration or naturalisation, been engaged in any activities which are prejudicial to the security of Singapore, or the maintenance of public order therein, or the maintenance therein of essential services, or in any criminal activities which are prejudicial to the interests of public safety, peace or good order. (4) The Government may, by order, deprive of his citizenship any person who is a citizen of Singapore by naturalisation if the Government is satisfied that, without the Government’s approval, he has accepted, served in or performed the duties of any office, post or employment under the government of any foreign country or any political subdivision thereof, or under any agency of such a government, in any case where an oath, affirmation or declaration of allegiance is required in respect of the office, post or employment: Provided that a person shall not be deprived of his citizenship under this clause by reason of anything done before the commencement of this Constitution notwithstanding that he was at the time a citizen of Singapore. (5) The Government may, by order, deprive of his citizenship any person who is a citizen of Singapore by naturalisation if the Government is satisfied that he has been ordinarily resident in foreign countries for a continuous period of 5 years and during that period has neither — (a)been at any time in the service of Singapore or of an international organisation of which the Government was a member; nor (b)registered annually at a consulate of Singapore his intention to retain his citizenship. (6) The Government may, by order, deprive of her citizenship any woman who is a citizen of Singapore by registration under Article 123(2) if the Government is satisfied that the marriage by virtue of which she was registered has been dissolved, otherwise than by death, within the period of 2 years beginning with the date of the marriage. (7) No person shall be deprived of his citizenship under this Article or under Article 130 unless the Government is satisfied that it is not conducive to the public good that that person should continue to be a citizen of Singapore; and no person shall be deprived of his citizenship under clause (2)(b) or clause (3)(a) or (b) (i) or under clause (4) or (5) or under Article 130 if the Government is satisfied that as a result of the deprivation he would not be a citizen of any country. Edited October 30, 2019 by sake 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unltd 5th Gear October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 48 minutes ago, shawnigami said: Not really. If he kena fired from JP Morgan and fake qualifications blow big big, he will not be able to find job here. He will need to liquidate and find alternative escape route. Either he lived luxuriously here and slowly rot to nothing (depend on his savings), or he can retire here by downgrading and be part of the HDB dwellers (confirm kena outcast), or he better find alternative place to run away and be citizen there. Many countries accept their previous citizens back without much fuss. And many such citizens know it, hence we see many temporary citizens. For those countries, you can simply apply back and renounce your other citizenship.... hence the drawback is you simply can’t hold 2 passports at the same time, but you can do what you want in the new country, and have a backup to return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysc3 Twincharged October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 47 minutes ago, Hoseyboh said: Getting my diploma now......😁 Come I give you... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 38 minutes ago, Playtime said: Don't spread fake news... ther correct term is "privilege" .😆 That lady reporter's expression is priceless... 4 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 Human if you need the complete phrase. Haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind30 Turbocharged October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Vinceng said: He has deactivated his LinkedIn account. There is no need to do so if one is not in the wrong. This is very strong signal of his guilt. ?????? really got no logic..... Won't you deactivate your account if this happens to you??? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, shawnigami said: Not really. If he kena fired from JP Morgan and fake qualifications blow big big, he will not be able to find job here. He will need to liquidate and find alternative escape route. Either he lived luxuriously here and slowly rot to nothing (depend on his savings), or he can retire here by downgrading and be part of the HDB dwellers (confirm kena outcast), or he better find alternative place to run away and be citizen there. Not sure if he really makes 66k a month but it would take quite some time for his savings to dwindle away. 1 hour ago, Victor68 said: So what does a Singapore citizen gets where naturalized citizen don't leh? Ns lor. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 When you earn $1k, you will stretch it to survive. When one day you earn $10k, you will find that you didn't save $9k. But $66k is 'murder' when you know the productive majority earn much less. Haha 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Vinceng said: Singaporean means Singaporean. No difference in privilege irregardless whether you are a naturalised Singaporean who don't need to serve 2 years National Service and 13 years of Reservist and IPPT. naturalised is exempted from NS 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinceng Turbocharged October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wind30 said: ?????? really got no logic..... Won't you deactivate your account if this happens to you??? This would never happen under any circumstances to me, as I am of sound character with integrity and respect for others. And if I were in Ramesh Erramalli's shoes, I would admit my mistake and make a public apology and personally apologize to the guard for the distress caused, and continue to reap the benefits and privileges that a naturalized Singaporean gets to enjoy, instead of adding fuel to fire by filing a Police report against the guard for doxxing. It's a win-win situation as I get to keep my SGD66,000 monthly salary. Edited October 30, 2019 by Vinceng 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklim Supercharged October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Playtime said: Don't spread fake news... ther correct term is "privilege" .😆 Singapore must be the only country in the world where you pay tens of thousands for an entitlement for 10 years. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Vinceng said: This would never happen under any circumstances to me, as I am of sound character with integrity and respect for others. And if I were in Ramesh Erramalli's shoes, I would admit my mistake and make a public apology and personally apologize to the guard for the distress caused, instead of filing a Police report against the guard for doxxing, and continue to reap the benefits and privileges that a naturalized Singaporean gets to enjoy. It's a win-win situation as I get to keep my SGD66,000 monthly salary. Very often, an arrogant person will goes into a state of denial when confronted with a mistake. How can me be wrong when i have my way all along? Didn't we see that Australian leaving Singapore after creating a mess? It does takes courage and maturity to admit and move on. In this case, unfortunately even if he does that, the box of worms already crawled all over the place. Do need more efforts to deal with them. My only take from here is not about him. But what is happening to singapore MOM, ICA, etc. No respond does not mean no problem. If accusations are all not valid, the more they are obliged to refute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 66k p month y don't buy landed? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinceng Turbocharged October 30, 2019 Share October 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, Victor68 said: Very often, an arrogant person will goes into a state of denial when confronted with a mistake. How can me be wrong when i have my way all along? Didn't we see that Australian leaving Singapore after creating a mess? It does takes courage and maturity to admit and move on. In this case, unfortunately even if he does that, the box of worms already crawled all over the place. Do need more efforts to deal with them. My only take from here is not about him. But what is happening to singapore MOM, ICA, etc. No respond does not mean no problem. If accusations are all not valid, the more they are obliged to refute If the allegations that his educational certifications are fake, then the relevant authoriites need to be more vigilant in their screening process, more so that he is now a naturalised Singaporean. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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