BANNED - E-scooters to be banned from Singapore's footpaths starting Nov 5

[Sdf4786k]

29 minutes ago, JohnSHL said:

 

yes and tell their friends they earn 4-5k

 

but tell their spouse they earn 2k

and tell their MP they in drastic economic disaster

Edited November 10, 2019 by Sdf4786k

[Fitvip]

5 hours ago, Davidtch said:

I don’t advocate. I walk the talk.

Beside driving, B.M.W., cycle and scoot (human powered).

I walk but don't talk，everyday。

[Vratenza]

58 minutes ago, JohnSHL said:

 

yes and tell their friends they earn 4-5k

 

but tell their spouse they earn 2k

Tell the press they earn 1.8k

Tell IRAS they don't earn anything

[Volvobrick]

1 hour ago, Mustank said:

So how? Should bAn or not? 

 

 

Somehow this reminds me of SGNs in HK protests.... 

[Throttle2]

58 minutes ago, Davidtch said:

Who say ban already solve all problem?
Who say put heavier sentence solve all problem?
Mai Naive la.

Yah

moreover GST increase lai liao.

expecting 15% to 25% increase.

 

hai........

[Yewheng]

2 hours ago, Mustank said:

So how? Should bAn or not? 

 

 

Don't be too cocky.. Next time he may not be in such luck.. 

[Ct3833]

3 hours ago, Mustank said:

So how? Should bAn or not? 

 

 

Of course not......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...delayed till now, should have done that long ago.

[Sosaria]

On 11/10/2019 at 12:05 AM, Windwaver said:

Just realized that one of the committee member of the Active Mobility Advisory Panel was my ex-boss.

That fellow was not exactly popular with people because blur like sotong 

 

It's always like that in the workplace. Those blur one can cause a lot of damage if left at the working level ... so must quickly push them up where they can cause least damage

Then those who are good at their jobs and have expertise, the company will keep you there where you can contribute most effectively.

[yishunite]

Spoiler

The Peter principle states that a person who is competent at their job will earn promotion to a more senior position which requires different skills. If the promoted person lacks the skills required for their new role, then they will be incompetent at their new level, and so they will not be promoted again. But if they are competent at their new role, then they will be promoted again, and they will continue to be promoted until they eventually reach a level at which they are incompetent. Being incompetent, they do not qualify to be promoted again, and so remain stuck at that final level for the rest of their career (termed "Final Placement" or "Peter's Plateau"). This outcome is inevitable, given enough time and assuming that there are enough positions in the hierarchy to which competent employees may be promoted.[2] The "Peter Principle" is therefore expressed as: "In a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence."[3] This leads to Peter's Corollary: "In time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out its duties."[4] Hull calls the study of how hierarchies work "hierarchiology."[5]

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[Yewheng]

2 hours ago, Sosaria said:

It's always like that in the workplace. Those blur one can cause a lot of damage if left at the working level ... so must quickly push them up where they can cause least damage

Then those who are good at their jobs and have expertise, the company will keep you there where you can contribute most effectively.

If blur cock but treat people very nice.. Not the arrogant type.. How? Can say nevermind he is a very nice guy.. Just that sometimes a little bit blur cock?

[Kb27]

Was turning from Tampines Ave 2, left into St 12 this morning , when a e-scooterist speed across the pedestrian footpath/( cylist path ?) I had to slam the brakes on for him.

They are king of the roads right ?

[Mustank]

9 minutes ago, Kb27 said:

Was turning from Tampines Ave 2, left into St 12 this morning , when a e-scooterist speed across the pedestrian footpath/( cylist path ?) I had to slam the brakes on for him.

They are king of the roads right ?

that’s because you are driving a car

Things are pretty different if you are operating a King Kong lorry 

[Mustank]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/e-scooter-rider-charged-over-bedok-accident-that-killed-cyclist

 

☹️

[Dleodleo]

The  PMDs distributers also poor thing.  Having $1.5m worth of stock (3000 PMDs). Kena stuck....

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/e-scooter-businesses-may-suffer-losses-of-up-to-15-million-retrenchment-and

 

Amother news.  Companies brought in more qty intended for 11.11 promo but end up stuck cannot sell.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/stockpile-e-scooters-brought-singles-day-now-unsellable-say-retailers

 

Perhaps the ban is too sudden.  Leaving  those affected to have insufficent time to react.

[inlinesix]

14 minutes ago, Dleodleo said:

The  PMDs distributers also poor thing.  Having $1.5m worth of stock (3000 PMDs). Kena stuck....

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/e-scooter-businesses-may-suffer-losses-of-up-to-15-million-retrenchment-and

 

Amother news.  Companies brought in more qty intended for 11.11 promo but end up stuck cannot sell.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/stockpile-e-scooters-brought-singles-day-now-unsellable-say-retailers

 

Perhaps the ban is too sudden.  Leaving  those affected to have insufficent time to react.

Hearsay that LTA meetup with individual PMD importers to tell them to bring in more stocks. These new stocks is to replace non-compliant PMD.

[Dleodleo]

2 minutes ago, Davidtch said:

Hearsay that LTA meetup with individual PMD importers to tell them to bring in more stocks. These new stocks is to replace non-compliant PMD.

Aiyo!

[inlinesix]

Just now, Dleodleo said:

Aiyo!

Hearsay only.

Don’t quote me

[Windwaver]

1 hour ago, Dleodleo said:

The  PMDs distributers also poor thing.  Having $1.5m worth of stock (3000 PMDs). Kena stuck....

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/e-scooter-businesses-may-suffer-losses-of-up-to-15-million-retrenchment-and

SINGAPORE – A $7-million package that has been rolled out will help food delivery riders with electric scooters switch to bicycles, electric bicycles or personal mobility aids, but e-scooter retailers are still left high and dry.

One such retailer told The Sunday Times he has $1.5 million worth of e-scooters that he suddenly cannot sell.

Another company has been hit so hard, it is closing its three sales outlets, while yet another retailer said he may have to retrench staff.

They told of their surprise at the ban on e-scooters being ridden on footpaths that was announced last Monday (Nov 4) and took effect the next day.

“This is all very sudden, we are in shock,” said Mr Ifrey Lai, managing director of retailer Mobot, one of the major e-scooter retailers here.

About 3,000 e-scooters, worth $1.5 million, now languish in Mobot’s warehouse in Ubi.

They have been paid for and cannot be returned to the manufacturer.

Overseas export options are limited and costly, retailers said.

The new $7 million trade-in scheme announced by the Government, which could see the likes of Grab and other delivery companies working with retailers to purchase e-bikes or power-assisted bicycles (PABs) and other alternatives, is also unlikely to help, they said.

This is especially so as the scheme will last only until the end of the year, giving retailers little time to react.

Mr Lai said stringent regulatory checks required for the devices, in which retailers have to send individual e-bikes for inspection, and the lack of demand for them relative to e-scooters, had meant that retailers have not stockpiled such devices.

The general manager of Kernel Scooter, Mr Jay Jin, said: “The main reason why retailers are suffering is due to existing inventories and money invested in getting devices the UL2272 certification.

“With most of our money stuck in our inventories and spent on UL2272, many of the retailers can go bankrupt very soon,” he lamented.

Many had gone out to stockpile e-scooters that meet the UL2272 safety standard, confident that demand would surge.

This was after the authorities announced that only certified e-scooters that are registered can be used in Singapore from July 1 next year.

There are about 100,000 registered e-scooters in Singapore and the majority are not UL2272 certified.

The certified devices are preferred because they pose a much lower risk of fire, but they are also more expensive to make, which makes them less attractive in many markets.

Mobot’s Mr Lai said around 20 to 30 customers brought their e-scooters back in the last week, trying to ask for refunds.

“It is unlikely that demand will rise in the near future. It may rise only three to five years later when the (cycling network) infrastructure grows” he said.

A retailer, who wanted to be known only as Dannis, 45, said he plans to shut down all three of his e-scooter shops as the business is no longer viable.

He expects to lose around $100,000.

Mr Jin said Kernel Scooter, which has about 400 e-scooters in its inventory, had zero sales last week.

“The announcement caught us off-guard, and it comes right before the Singles’ Days sales (Nov 11) for which we had brought in so many extra e-scooters.”

Mr Wilson Seng, president of the PMD Retailers Association of Singapore, said: “There was no consultation and no warning given to us (by the LTA).

“This week has been a nightmare.”