Lala81 Hypersonic December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jusnel said: Which ball u referring to? must be so painful for yourself 😂 Lol. squeeze ball for your hand... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Lala81 said: Blood products are treated like a national resource. U can pre-reserve blood products for operations with expected blood loss. But otherwise it's not something u can anyhow consume as a doctor. As to whether how the charges work, i dunno. With itemised billing, there's always some fee attached to certain items or procedure. Never really thought about it that way though. But seems workable. I think US and some other countries allow buying of blood. The students there can donate blood and get some pocket money - don't see anything wrong with that! I am not saying that blood should be free to patients as there's definitely some fee to harvesting, testing and storage but it seems highly profitable judging from the numbers I've seen (dunno costs of harvesting, etc tho). However, it's clear that they sell it for medical tourism so why should anyone donate to a for profit scheme? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kusje said: I think US and some other countries allow buying of blood. The students there can donate blood and get some pocket money - don't see anything wrong with that! I am not saying that blood should be free to patients as there's definitely some fee to harvesting, testing and storage but it seems highly profitable judging from the numbers I've seen (dunno costs of harvesting, etc tho). However, it's clear that they sell it for medical tourism so why should anyone donate to a for profit scheme? Don't disagree with that point. But given the usage of blood, it's likely the vast majority of blood supplies are used for locals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tianmo Hypersonic December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Lala81 said: Urban myth? I can't recall where i heard it from. But within our profession. I heard it many years ago that when there's real shortage of blood, they ask SAF to help. I think they offer you something to donate. Not coercion, but ask the whole unit to donate lor. Maybe give u some off-in-lieu or don't have to participate in training that day These donation drives cannot gather enough one. How many people u know donate regularly? I've tried once, but my veins are too fine. Flow rate is too slow. Took me almost 50mins of ball squeezing to donate 1 pack. My hand was cramping... my active unit. It was during low session, they set up at the MPH, whole unit take turn by platoon. Given Milo and biscuit, no training that whole day... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tianmo Hypersonic December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, Lala81 said: Blood products are treated like a national resource. U can pre-reserve blood products for operations with expected blood loss. But otherwise it's not something u can anyhow consume as a doctor. As to whether how the charges work, i dunno. With itemised billing, there's always some fee attached to certain items or procedure. Never really thought about it that way though. But seems workable. I dont know about emergency cases, but for non-emergency cases such as scheduled ops, my niece in law was asked to replace x numbers of bags of blood that she would be estimated to use before her ops, regardless of blood grp. I had an emergency ops, but cant really remember if they charged me for the blood, but if I recollect correctly, I think I was charged for the blood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Lala81 said: Urban myth? I can't recall where i heard it from. But within our profession. I heard it many years ago that when there's real shortage of blood, they ask SAF to help. I think they offer you something to donate. Not coercion, but ask the whole unit to donate lor. Maybe give u some off-in-lieu or don't have to participate in training that day These donation drives cannot gather enough one. How many people u know donate regularly? I've tried once, but my veins are too fine. Flow rate is too slow. Took me almost 50mins of ball squeezing to donate 1 pack. My hand was cramping... Yes asking NSF to donate and get the rest of the day off was prevalent even during my time 40 years ago so I'm sure it still is today! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Spring said: Yes asking NSF to donate and get the rest of the day off was prevalent even during my time 40 years ago so I'm sure it still is today! given the number of elective operations we do nowadays is so many more, demand is likely much higher also. 40 years ago, u can't replace your knee etc. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lala81 said: Urban myth? I can't recall where i heard it from. But within our profession. I heard it many years ago that when there's real shortage of blood, they ask SAF to help. I think they offer you something to donate. Not coercion, but ask the whole unit to donate lor. Maybe give u some off-in-lieu or don't have to participate in training that day These donation drives cannot gather enough one. How many people u know donate regularly? I've tried once, but my veins are too fine. Flow rate is too slow. Took me almost 50mins of ball squeezing to donate 1 pack. My hand was cramping... You get half a day off , I did that during my army time, doing some good deed, nothing to lose. Edited December 12, 2019 by Ct3833 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Lala81 said: Blood products are treated like a national resource. U can pre-reserve blood products for operations with expected blood loss. But otherwise it's not something u can anyhow consume as a doctor. As to whether how the charges work, i dunno. With itemised billing, there's always some fee attached to certain items or procedure. Never really thought about it that way though. But seems workable. You need to pay for the blood transfer to you in hospital, it is chargeable item in the bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 Donate 3 packets withn 6 months and receive free one year road tax ...... 50,000 MCF members here will go queue at the blood bank ... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enye Hypersonic December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 wah...got free milo after donation still not enough? sibeh greedy... 🤣 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysc3 Twincharged December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Lala81 said: Lol. Usually they get blood from NSFs right. Not my time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysc3 Twincharged December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Kusje said: It is of course true. There is no "coercion" but those that donate "voluntarily" get perks like half day off. I think 30years ago blood donors will get a donor card which will let them jump que when visiting polyclinic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysc3 Twincharged December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, Picnic06-Biante15 said: Donate 3 packets withn 6 months and receive free one year road tax ...... 50,000 MCF members here will go queue at the blood bank ... Diabetic+high cholesterol+hypertension blood can or not har ? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky61 1st Gear December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Lala81 said: Don't disagree with that point. But given the usage of blood, it's likely the vast majority of blood supplies are used for locals. Locals? U mean foreigners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ysc3 said: Diabetic+high cholesterol+hypertension blood can or not har ? Can .... At times, they don't need your red or white blood cells. They need is plasma for burnt victims.... Drunkards cannot cos the alcohol still in the blood. The one received will get drunk also .... 🤪 Edited December 12, 2019 by Picnic06-Biante15 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 Mine better not sibei toxic... mozzie bite me mozzie die 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpleman 1st Gear December 12, 2019 Share December 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Ysc3 said: I think 30years ago blood donors will get a donor card which will let them jump que when visiting polyclinic. Gotta donate two times within a calendar year to be entitled to this jump que card. Free consultation too. Somehow this entitlement was removed some years ago. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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