andrewyewkc 5th Gear January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 Hero. https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/motorist-seeks-court-order-to-renew-5-year-coe ↡ Advertisement 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, andrewyewkc said: Hero. https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/motorist-seeks-court-order-to-renew-5-year-coe The PQP in 2014 was about $65k for Cat A and about $70+K for Cat B, he renewed his car for 5 years then, now the PQP is so much cheaper comparing with that of 2014, he then decided to push his luck by taking advantage of the current low PQP to extend his car further. Even if he gets to extend COE, LTA will ask him to pay the PQP of 2014, plus court fees and legal expense. Edited January 3, 2020 by Ct3833 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zxcvb Turbocharged January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 Paywall. Can someone post the entire article. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewyewkc 5th Gear January 3, 2020 Author Share January 3, 2020 A motorist is taking the Land Transport Authority (LTA) to court in an apparent novel challenge, seeking an order that will allow him to keep his car after his one-off five-year certificate of entitlement (COE) renewal expired last year. Mr Koh Lin Yee, 46, is seeking another five-year renewal or alternatively, wants a court order to replace his 2014 COE with a 10-year COE beginning from November 2014. Under current rules, COEs for motor cars can be renewed for multiple 10-year terms with fees payable at the prevailing rates. But a motorist who opts for a five-year COE renewal of his car is only allowed to do so once, after which the car has to be deregistered and disposed of. A High Court pre-trial conference on the case is due later this month. Mr Koh is expected to present his grounds in due course in support of his court application to be heard in court chambers on a date to be fixed. Allen & Gledhill lawyer Ramesh Selvaraj, representing LTA, declined to comment when contacted, explaining the matter is currently before the courts. According to LTA's One Motoring website, the once-only five-year COE renewal applies to motor cars in both the above-1,600cc and below-1,600cc categories. A five-year COE renewal would cost half that of a 10-year one and the sum payable varies in tandem with the prevailing quota premium (PQP). A motorist has to pay the PQP for the respective vehicle category to renew the COE. The PQP is the moving average of COE prices in the previous three months at renewal. For this month, the PQP for a motor car above 1600cc, like a Mercedes-Benz 200 for instance, was about $39,000 according to the website, while the PQP for the same category in November 2014 was $71,800. This would mean that a five-year renewal for a COE bought in 2014 would cost about $35,000. According to court papers he filed, Mr Koh is also seeking a court injunction to restrain LTA from seizing or disposing of his vehicle pending the outcome of the court's review of his COE renewal application. He also wants the court to preserve all his rights to exercise a further renewal of the COE under current laws. A vehicle not renewed has to be deregistered and disposed of by scrapping it, exporting it or storing it temporarily in an export processing zone pending export. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrios Turbocharged January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 Beh zai xi this chap...gd luck 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Twincharged January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 Very curious as to what car it is, to make some one behave so irrationally. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optramagnum 6th Gear January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 What's next? Order to review the extra loading of road tax for COE cars? Isn't it obvious that government discourage us to keep old cars due to its pollution.. That's why simi Euro 6 compliant policy and VES banding was introduced.. I'm driving COE car also, but I renew for 10yrs despite knowing it probably won't last that long.. Planning to use residual COE to down the next car.. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 I'm very interested to hear his grounds. Must be some compelling sh*t. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 lawyers huat ah ... 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vid Hypersonic January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 👏👏👏 The amount of money he will spend on suing, probably could well pay for a new car with COE 😂😂 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrosszero Turbocharged January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 Actually this 5 year non-renewal rule has no logic - its merely pro-rated to 50% of the 10 year PQP. The fact that he had initially accepted this condition at renewal should not affect judgement whether the rule makes sense. Even if nothing else comes of it and he loses his request, he would have forced the LTA to explain their rationale for such an odd condition. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 Huat ah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icedbs Turbocharged January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, Macrosszero said: Actually this 5 year non-renewal rule has no logic - its merely pro-rated to 50% of the 10 year PQP. The fact that he had initially accepted this condition at renewal should not affect judgement whether the rule makes sense. Even if nothing else comes of it and he loses his request, he would have forced the LTA to explain their rationale for such an odd condition. That's true.....I also want to know why those renew 10 years can have a choice to continue to renew but those renew 5 years can only do so once. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashbang Turbocharged January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 Good luck to him! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongster 6th Gear January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 37 minutes ago, Macrosszero said: Actually this 5 year non-renewal rule has no logic - its merely pro-rated to 50% of the 10 year PQP. The fact that he had initially accepted this condition at renewal should not affect judgement whether the rule makes sense. Even if nothing else comes of it and he loses his request, he would have forced the LTA to explain their rationale for such an odd condition. Is there a legal requirement for a rule to make sense? If it is determined that it is within LTA’s power to pass the rule, and the rule has been applied consistently to all motorists, that would seem to be the end of the matter. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrosszero Turbocharged January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chongster said: Is there a legal requirement for a rule to make sense? If it is determined that it is within LTA’s power to pass the rule, and the rule has been applied consistently to all motorists, that would seem to be the end of the matter. Laws should continually need to remain current and relevant else it would still be legal in the UK for a pregnant woman to take a piss in a police officer’s hat 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 (edited) For all you know, this may motivate LTA to "review" things and "decide" to do away with 5 year renewals entirely. Actually, to me a more pressing question would be: why is PARF completely lost on renewal? Why not just continue PARF attrition on the same schedule as for the first 10 years of vehicular life? Edited January 3, 2020 by Turboflat4 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hosaybo 6th Gear January 3, 2020 Share January 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Macrosszero said: Actually this 5 year non-renewal rule has no logic - its merely pro-rated to 50% of the 10 year PQP. The fact that he had initially accepted this condition at renewal should not affect judgement whether the rule makes sense. Even if nothing else comes of it and he loses his request, he would have forced the LTA to explain their rationale for such an odd condition. I guess the logic is to take out the speculative component where people just renew 5 years to wait out and see. If in 2014, he renewed and waited till now to renew again, he will have save money compared to someone who renewed 10years in 2014. ↡ Advertisement 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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