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A point to consider - for parents who want their kids to enter medicine...

You see the glamour, the ER movies, and the smiling patients who underwent surgeries successfully, but the frontline is very much like a real battlefield.

There are clean sexy clinics in skin, aesthetics / plastics, and there are deaths, cries of people who just got told they have cancer, poor people who can't afford treatment and the sick...

Doctors also need to wake up in the middle of the night, look at someone's excrement, vomit, and enter highly dangerous places, sometimes ill prepared if you are in the first wave, and learn to not sleep, not eat or even not drink (because you then need to ungown and go to the toilet) - ask how many doctors have kidney stones.. 

You may not even be welcome at home, your partner may not understand why you need to work late, miss dates, study when they want to go on holidays and people also won't understand why you are even paid as much as a regular civil servant because you had large loans, exams to pay, trips to take these exams in UK and elsewhere and that your call money was only enough for meals and transports (many years ago, calls weren't even paid).

Trainees need to be the top of their class before university, and go through several exams to get their specialist degrees (even GPs now need to take some exams), and many put their lives on hold.

You are also the subject of abuse, physical, verbal and mental. The press loves scandals, the public demand that you work for almost nothing but must maintain decorum and not have any emotion. Almost every doctor has been pushed/kicked/scolded a few times in their career. Every one would have been pricked by needles, cut by knives or gone to do X Rays without the protection. 

And in such dangerous times, you must enter the battlefield, much like the poorly equipped troops from WWI, with no proper gear if you are in the first wave, or be trapped in a city with no re-supply in sight and end up peeing in your own pants, re-using masks. 

Is that in China? Actually it was what some had to do during SARS already. And some fell during the first wave before we gained any understanding of the disease. 

Send your kids to medicine? Think hard, and think twice. 

 

 

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22 hours ago, therock said:

A point to consider - for parents who want their kids to enter medicine...

You see the glamour, the ER movies, and the smiling patients who underwent surgeries successfully, but the frontline is very much like a real battlefield.

There are clean sexy clinics in skin, aesthetics / plastics, and there are deaths, cries of people who just got told they have cancer, poor people who can't afford treatment and the sick...

Doctors also need to wake up in the middle of the night, look at someone's excrement, vomit, and enter highly dangerous places, sometimes ill prepared if you are in the first wave, and learn to not sleep, not eat or even not drink (because you then need to ungown and go to the toilet) - ask how many doctors have kidney stones.. 

You may not even be welcome at home, your partner may not understand why you need to work late, miss dates, study when they want to go on holidays and people also won't understand why you are even paid as much as a regular civil servant because you had large loans, exams to pay, trips to take these exams in UK and elsewhere and that your call money was only enough for meals and transports (many years ago, calls weren't even paid).

Trainees need to be the top of their class before university, and go through several exams to get their specialist degrees (even GPs now need to take some exams), and many put their lives on hold.

You are also the subject of abuse, physical, verbal and mental. The press loves scandals, the public demand that you work for almost nothing but must maintain decorum and not have any emotion. Almost every doctor has been pushed/kicked/scolded a few times in their career. Every one would have been pricked by needles, cut by knives or gone to do X Rays without the protection. 

And in such dangerous times, you must enter the battlefield, much like the poorly equipped troops from WWI, with no proper gear if you are in the first wave, or be trapped in a city with no re-supply in sight and end up peeing in your own pants, re-using masks. 

Is that in China? Actually it was what some had to do during SARS already. And some fell during the first wave before we gained any understanding of the disease. 

Send your kids to medicine? Think hard, and think twice. 

dentist and plastic surgery surgeon ...

those come in only want to look better and not when they sick  [thumbsup][laugh] 

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23 hours ago, therock said:

A point to consider - for parents who want their kids to enter medicine...

You see the glamour, the ER movies, and the smiling patients who underwent surgeries successfully, but the frontline is very much like a real battlefield.

There are clean sexy clinics in skin, aesthetics / plastics, and there are deaths, cries of people who just got told they have cancer, poor people who can't afford treatment and the sick...

Doctors also need to wake up in the middle of the night, look at someone's excrement, vomit, and enter highly dangerous places, sometimes ill prepared if you are in the first wave, and learn to not sleep, not eat or even not drink (because you then need to ungown and go to the toilet) - ask how many doctors have kidney stones.. 

You may not even be welcome at home, your partner may not understand why you need to work late, miss dates, study when they want to go on holidays and people also won't understand why you are even paid as much as a regular civil servant because you had large loans, exams to pay, trips to take these exams in UK and elsewhere and that your call money was only enough for meals and transports (many years ago, calls weren't even paid).

Trainees need to be the top of their class before university, and go through several exams to get their specialist degrees (even GPs now need to take some exams), and many put their lives on hold.

You are also the subject of abuse, physical, verbal and mental. The press loves scandals, the public demand that you work for almost nothing but must maintain decorum and not have any emotion. Almost every doctor has been pushed/kicked/scolded a few times in their career. Every one would have been pricked by needles, cut by knives or gone to do X Rays without the protection. 

And in such dangerous times, you must enter the battlefield, much like the poorly equipped troops from WWI, with no proper gear if you are in the first wave, or be trapped in a city with no re-supply in sight and end up peeing in your own pants, re-using masks. 

Is that in China? Actually it was what some had to do during SARS already. And some fell during the first wave before we gained any understanding of the disease. 

Send your kids to medicine? Think hard, and think twice. 

 

 

Let's see.

You either have a lousy job

OR you have no job.

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23 hours ago, inlinesix said:

This is my reach home routine:

1. Disinfect phone

2. Change out 

4. Wash hand

If possible also disinfect the bag/haversack that you carry out, as people always place their bag on the floor at public area and your dirty hands might also touched your bag.

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Open borders in Europe. Virus doesn't respect borders anyways.

 

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51638095

Coronavirus: Outbreak spreads in Europe from Italy

Several European countries have announced their first coronavirus cases, all apparently linked to the growing outbreak in Italy.

Austria, Croatia and Switzerland said the cases involved people who had been to Italy, as did Algeria in Africa.

The first positive virus test has been recorded in Latin America - a Brazilian resident just returned from Italy.

Italy has in recent days become Europe's worst-affected country, with more than 300 cases and 11 deaths.

But its neighbours have decided closing borders would be "disproportionate".

Health ministers from France, Germany, Italy and the EU Commission committed to keeping frontiers open at a meeting on Tuesday as new cases of the virus emerged throughout Europe and in central and southern Italy.

"We're talking about a virus that doesn't respect borders," said Italian Health Minister Roberto Speranza.


 

 

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