Jusnel 6th Gear February 12, 2020 Share February 12, 2020 As per topic. I'm exploring cafe business as viable business? All along, I love to work with food and always felt happy if a customer enjoys the food. It may not be a full menu. Even a cafe that serves pastry and drinks will be nice too. What are the things I need to know. How to spot a good location. Look for buy overs. ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic February 12, 2020 Share February 12, 2020 What does it take? I would say customers. Location as long as there's ample place to park. My opinion is when it comes to cafe you need to stand out in some way. My makan kaki and I often hunt for cafes when we meet up for lunch. You gotto have some kinda of target audience. We would often see reviews on what is good at a cafe. For some the kopi is good but the food sucks. Some have good food but kopi sorta meh. This is important to us cos after a good meal a good cup of kopi makes it even more satisfying. Can talk cock chit chat at the same time. This is the kinda hangout we will look out for. We also know some cafes who will get bloggers and influencers to create a lot of hype. It will be a one time visit if we realised it doesnt live up to the hype. We have also seen a fair share of cafes that are there and gone when we want to return visit. That's the thing about running a cafe. You cannot have a fixed menu and not improve on it. Food and drinks got to change regularly so that ppl dont get bored. You gotto to have new stuff for ppl to try, eg. food or drinks that's outside your typical menu on a special weekday/weekend. I call it "specials". LoL... I must say it's not easy cos there are quite a number of good cafes out there. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Supersonic February 12, 2020 Share February 12, 2020 It takes money to start, and more money to sustain. Unfortunately the statistics is against cafes. Most new ones won't be around after 2 years. There are exceptions of course, but I would say probability of success is less than 50%. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobcarbuyer 5th Gear February 12, 2020 Share February 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jusnel said: As per topic. I'm exploring cafe business as viable business? All along, I love to work with food and always felt happy if a customer enjoys the food. It may not be a full menu. Even a cafe that serves pastry and drinks will be nice too. What are the things I need to know. How to spot a good location. Look for buy overs. You will need to be prepared to lose your entire capital and more. F&B is cut throat enough as it is. Cafe is the worst. 1 customer can occupy one table with one small coffee for hours on end. Somemore you are looking at a bare bones menu that won't encourage return customers. Have you considered pop up stalls or pasar malam? Edited February 12, 2020 by noobcarbuyer 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic February 12, 2020 Share February 12, 2020 (edited) I would say a lot of factors affecting cafe business. One of them is location. There are some who open shop at industrial buildings/area. The pitfalls are limited customers and limited opening hours cos at most you can serve is lunch and tea break. Dinner time I think boh lang will visit. On the other hand rental may be cheaper than some places designated for F&B outlets. Most challenging I think will be what F&B industry is facing now...manpower crunch. Hiring ppl is tough. I agree with Volvobrick. Trying to breakeven might be the toughest challenge and it might take a while. Edited February 12, 2020 by Watwheels 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic February 12, 2020 Share February 12, 2020 Most important is to have a something special to attract customers. Some ideas to consider Maid cafe Cat cafe Dog cafe 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobcarbuyer 5th Gear February 12, 2020 Share February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Jamesc said: Most important is to have a something special to attract customers. Some ideas to consider Maid cafe Cat cafe Dog cafe Got chicken cafe? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic February 12, 2020 Share February 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, noobcarbuyer said: Got chicken cafe? Haha good idea. This kind or other kind? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic February 12, 2020 Share February 12, 2020 I can see this cafe will be very success with so many attractive offerings. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeder Hypersonic February 12, 2020 Share February 12, 2020 (edited) Location is the most important... Try not to scrimp on this part.. U can wave good bye to your weekends and social life.. Most importantly, u got to be hands on in your business as dun expect other people to earn money for you ... Lastly, Sex life surely habis.. tio boh @Angcheek @BanCoe Edited February 12, 2020 by Freeder 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic February 12, 2020 Share February 12, 2020 Btw I actually do have a degree in Marketing although I am a massage the rapist to professional models. And I even came up with the idea for SIA to merge Scoot and Tiger and I posted the idea on MCF and Scoot did merge with Tiger after that. So all my ideas really got Marketing Theory behind it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic February 12, 2020 Share February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Freeder said: Location is the most important... Try not to scrimp on this part.. U can wave good bye to your weekends and social life.. Most importantly, u got to be hands on in your business as dun expect other people to earn money for you ... Yes must be very hands on with the staff to make sure they provide full customer satisfaction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusnel 6th Gear February 12, 2020 Author Share February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Watwheels said: What does it take? I would say customers. Location as long as there's ample place to park. My opinion is when it comes to cafe you need to stand out in some way. My makan kaki and I often hunt for cafes when we meet up for lunch. You gotto have some kinda of target audience. We would often see reviews on what is good at a cafe. For some the kopi is good but the food sucks. Some have good food but kopi sorta meh. This is important to us cos after a good meal a good cup of kopi makes it even more satisfying. Can talk cock chit chat at the same time. This is the kinda hangout we will look out for. We also know some cafes who will get bloggers and influencers to create a lot of hype. It will be a one time visit if we realised it doesnt live up to the hype. We have also seen a fair share of cafes that are there and gone when we want to return visit. That's the thing about running a cafe. You cannot have a fixed menu and not improve on it. Food and drinks got to change regularly so that ppl dont get bored. You gotto to have new stuff for ppl to try, eg. food or drinks that's outside your typical menu on a special weekday/weekend. I call it "specials". LoL... I must say it's not easy cos there are quite a number of good cafes out there. Thanks everyone for the inputs. For the longest time, i always wanted to run a cafe. Pitfalls are there. I agree that manpower is the main problem. Got money to hire, but no one want to do. Got to find innovative way around this problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic February 12, 2020 Share February 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, Freeder said: Location is the most important... Try not to scrimp on this part.. U can wave good bye to your weekends and social life.. Most importantly, u got to be hands on in your business as dun expect other people to earn money for you ... Lastly, Sex life surely habis.. tio boh @Angcheek @BanCoe Yes location very important...not necessary the expansive area . Just got to see the neighbour. YOLO like cafe ... but 1 drink sit whole day 😁 Got XMM best @BanCoecan sit opening till closing .. BanCoe has die hard habit ... or rather habit to die hard ... 😂 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanCoe Hypersonic February 12, 2020 Share February 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Angcheek said: Yes location very important...not necessary the expansive area . Just got to see the neighbour. YOLO like cafe ... but 1 drink sit whole day 😁 Got XMM best @BanCoecan sit opening till closing .. BanCoe has die hard habit ... or rather habit to die hard ... 😂 I only table wiper in kopitiam my boss is @Freeder wat can I say ??......... but konsult @Carbon82 for best bakes 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeder Hypersonic February 13, 2020 Share February 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Angcheek said: Yes location very important...not necessary the expansive area . Just got to see the neighbour. YOLO like cafe ... but 1 drink sit whole day 😁 Got XMM best @BanCoecan sit opening till closing .. BanCoe has die hard habit ... or rather habit to die hard ... 😂 Think can open a NO concept cafe .. No hands , No panties , No Bra & etc.. 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear February 13, 2020 Share February 13, 2020 What's the capital outlay like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeder Hypersonic February 13, 2020 Share February 13, 2020 37 minutes ago, RogerNg_185295 said: What's the capital outlay like? Wah .. u still ard. Thought u kanna the K-birus... ↡ Advertisement 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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