kobayashiGT Internal Moderator March 16, 2020 Share March 16, 2020 Why is Ayer Rajah Expressway AYE instead of ARE? source: https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Ayer-Rajah-Expressway-AYE-instead-of-ARE/answer/Darius-Cheung?ch=99&share=38ff7f3b&srid=3GYJg So I actually asked Land Transport Authority, not expecting them to entertain such a Bo Liao (frivolous) question. It's good to know someone in the government actually has a sense of humour too. ==== Here's the response ==== Forgive our delay in replying to your 5 December email query but we did need some time to find the source to answer your question. The acronym for expressways is derived from the first letter of the first two syllables, followed by the first letter of the last word. Examples include: East (1 syllable) Coast (1 syllable) Parkway (2 syllables – So E (1st letter of 1st syllable), C (1st letter of 2nd syllable) and P (1st letter of last word) Central (2 syllables) Expressway (3 syllables) – So C (1st letter of 1st syllable), T (1st letter of 2nd syllable) and E (1st letter of last word) Bukit (2 syllables) Timah (2 syllables) Expressway (3 syllables) – So B (1st letter of 1st syllable), K (1st letter of 2nd syllable) and E (1st letter of last word) Pan (1 syllable) Island (2 syllables) Expressway (3 syllables) - So P (1st letter of 1st syllable), I (1st letter of 2nd syllable) and E (1st letter of last word) Ayer (2 syllables) Rajah (2 syllables) Expressway (3 syllables) - So A (1st letter of 1st syllable), Y (1st letter of 2nd syllable) and E (1st letter of last word) Thus, the AYE became just that, rather than ARE. I hope this clarifies the rationale. Thank you very much for asking. ====== UPDATE 1 (Jan 13) KPE is 2 highways! ======= "We wish to share that the Kallang-Paya Lebar Expressway (KPE) started as two separate expressways in both Kallang and Paya Lebar. Hence, the acronym "KPE" was derived from the two destinations involved. As such, the first letter of each destination (Kallang, Paya Lebar) and the first letter of the last word (Expressway) form the acronym." ====== UPDATE 2 (Oct 13) MC.. what? ======= Question: Why is the latest express way (Marina Coastal Expressway) is called MCE instead of MRE? Answer from LTA: ".. acronym of Marina Coastal Expressway is derived from the first letter of Marina(M), the first letter of Coastal(C) and also the first letter of Expressway (E), hence MCE." ~~ (Feedback No.: 20131114-0246) ====== UPDATE 3 (Dec 13) MCE is MCE, because MCE ======= A new update from LTA. "The acronym name MCE is chosen based on its location, just like the Kallang-Paya Lebar Expressway (KPE). The Marina Coastal Expressway is sited along the southern coast of Singapore, in Marina area, As such, we are mindful that the both the full name and the acronym name identified for this expressway should contain the word "Coastal" or its associated acronym "C" using its first alphabet/ syllabus to better reflect the locality of the expressway. Using MRE, which adopts the syllabus naming method, would sound less appropriate as it does not give the public a sense of where the expressway is sited" Personally, I agree MCE is a better name than MRE, don't you? And LTA is right, it does give a better sense of where the highway is by reminding people that it's a Coastal highway in the acronym. Most of all, I believe it is appreciated that they probably gave the real answer and explain why MCE did not follow convention, instead of dodging it with an excuse. Quote Now I know why the scholar are paid so much le. 🤣 Cause they need to answer to curious ppl like us. hahahha. ↡ Advertisement 12 2 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Supersonic March 16, 2020 Share March 16, 2020 MRE gets confused with Meals Ready-to-Eat. But then we have PIE. Conclusion is LTA suka suka one. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator March 16, 2020 Author Share March 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Volvobrick said: MRE gets confused with Meals Ready-to-Eat. But then we have PIE. Conclusion is LTA suka suka one. Hahha. At least got some explanation. Better than they tell us, I set as what, you read as what. . . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipkee Twincharged March 16, 2020 Share March 16, 2020 3 hours ago, kobayashiGT said: Why is Ayer Rajah Expressway AYE instead of ARE? source: https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Ayer-Rajah-Expressway-AYE-instead-of-ARE/answer/Darius-Cheung?ch=99&share=38ff7f3b&srid=3GYJg So I actually asked Land Transport Authority, not expecting them to entertain such a Bo Liao (frivolous) question. It's good to know someone in the government actually has a sense of humour too. ==== Here's the response ==== Forgive our delay in replying to your 5 December email query but we did need some time to find the source to answer your question. The acronym for expressways is derived from the first letter of the first two syllables, followed by the first letter of the last word. Examples include: East (1 syllable) Coast (1 syllable) Parkway (2 syllables – So E (1st letter of 1st syllable), C (1st letter of 2nd syllable) and P (1st letter of last word) Central (2 syllables) Expressway (3 syllables) – So C (1st letter of 1st syllable), T (1st letter of 2nd syllable) and E (1st letter of last word) Bukit (2 syllables) Timah (2 syllables) Expressway (3 syllables) – So B (1st letter of 1st syllable), K (1st letter of 2nd syllable) and E (1st letter of last word) Pan (1 syllable) Island (2 syllables) Expressway (3 syllables) - So P (1st letter of 1st syllable), I (1st letter of 2nd syllable) and E (1st letter of last word) Ayer (2 syllables) Rajah (2 syllables) Expressway (3 syllables) - So A (1st letter of 1st syllable), Y (1st letter of 2nd syllable) and E (1st letter of last word) Thus, the AYE became just that, rather than ARE. I hope this clarifies the rationale. Thank you very much for asking. ====== UPDATE 1 (Jan 13) KPE is 2 highways! ======= "We wish to share that the Kallang-Paya Lebar Expressway (KPE) started as two separate expressways in both Kallang and Paya Lebar. Hence, the acronym "KPE" was derived from the two destinations involved. As such, the first letter of each destination (Kallang, Paya Lebar) and the first letter of the last word (Expressway) form the acronym." ====== UPDATE 2 (Oct 13) MC.. what? ======= Question: Why is the latest express way (Marina Coastal Expressway) is called MCE instead of MRE? Answer from LTA: ".. acronym of Marina Coastal Expressway is derived from the first letter of Marina(M), the first letter of Coastal(C) and also the first letter of Expressway (E), hence MCE." ~~ (Feedback No.: 20131114-0246) ====== UPDATE 3 (Dec 13) MCE is MCE, because MCE ======= A new update from LTA. "The acronym name MCE is chosen based on its location, just like the Kallang-Paya Lebar Expressway (KPE). The Marina Coastal Expressway is sited along the southern coast of Singapore, in Marina area, As such, we are mindful that the both the full name and the acronym name identified for this expressway should contain the word "Coastal" or its associated acronym "C" using its first alphabet/ syllabus to better reflect the locality of the expressway. Using MRE, which adopts the syllabus naming method, would sound less appropriate as it does not give the public a sense of where the expressway is sited" Personally, I agree MCE is a better name than MRE, don't you? And LTA is right, it does give a better sense of where the highway is by reminding people that it's a Coastal highway in the acronym. Most of all, I believe it is appreciated that they probably gave the real answer and explain why MCE did not follow convention, instead of dodging it with an excuse. I will say your question is a bit boh liao BUT it's good trivia. Maybe one day if I have to drive taxi and i fetch tourists i can ask them this... make good conversation. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersaylee Supersonic March 16, 2020 Share March 16, 2020 Timah and Rajah not happy cos got ignored... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic March 16, 2020 Share March 16, 2020 5 hours ago, kobayashiGT said: Hahha. At least got some explanation. Better than they tell us, I set as what, you read as what. . . Their job is to able to give you 1001 explanation that you have to accept whether it is making sense or not. Lol. No way they will tell you they are suka suka one even they are. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreakid 6th Gear March 16, 2020 Share March 16, 2020 Interesting information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrocarbon Turbocharged March 16, 2020 Share March 16, 2020 Eat too full 🤣 Good trivia to know though.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic March 17, 2020 Share March 17, 2020 Wonder how scholars had to burn sleepless nights juz to find that answer?... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xers007 Supercharged March 17, 2020 Share March 17, 2020 I feedback on a road condition more than a month ago and no one ever came back to me nor the road was fixed. I think the LTA guys also get bored replying those standard feedback. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic March 17, 2020 Share March 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, Soya said: Wonder how scholars had to burn sleepless nights juz to find that answer?... They are paid and expert in doing this de. Dont think they need to burn sleepless nights. Lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic March 17, 2020 Share March 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, Xers007 said: I feedback on a road condition more than a month ago and no one ever came back to me nor the road was fixed. I think the LTA guys also get bored replying those standard feedback. Maybe you need to keep sending in your feedback to them? Or there are too many such feedback on road condition that they could not handle liao? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic March 17, 2020 Share March 17, 2020 Just now, 13177 said: They are paid and expert in doing this de. Dont think they need to burn sleepless nights. Lol. U ask them to think of 1001 ways to squeeze $$ outta motorists, the scholars will hv a detailed report w mathematically complex analysis on your desk by first thing tomorrow morning Ask this kinda bo liao question I'm not surprised they are genuinely stumped....lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic March 17, 2020 Share March 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, Xers007 said: I feedback on a road condition more than a month ago and no one ever came back to me nor the road was fixed. I think the LTA guys also get bored replying those standard feedback. Complain till it is fixed. If not, cc MoT & PM 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic March 17, 2020 Share March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Soya said: U ask them to think of 1001 ways to squeeze $$ outta motorists, the scholars will hv a detailed report w mathematically complex analysis on your desk by first thing tomorrow morning Ask this kinda bo liao question I'm not surprised they are genuinely stumped....lol I complained insufficient warning on change in speed limit in KPE. Some LTA guy called and said LTA stat shows otherwise. I TL. Told him that your stats don’t lie. BUT.... From user perspective, IT IS INSUFFICIENT WARNING. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic March 17, 2020 Share March 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, inlinesix said: I complained insufficient warning on change in speed limit in KPE. Some LTA guy called and said LTA stat shows otherwise. I TL. Told him that your stats don’t lie. BUT.... From user perspective, IT IS INSUFFICIENT WARNING. Comprain department is loss making so run by peasants Scholars are in the profit centres to generate $$ to pay for your Skillsfuture so that u can use taxpayer $$ to go learn bake cookies n pass to friends and relatives So bo pian gotta suck thumb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic March 17, 2020 Share March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Soya said: Comprain department is loss making so run by peasants Scholars are in the profit centres to generate $$ to pay for your Skillsfuture so that u can use taxpayer $$ to go learn bake cookies n pass to friends and relatives So bo pian gotta suck thumb I used to bake cookies when I was teenager. No need skillfuture. i want to take course on “How to be a pappy” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yishunite Turbocharged March 17, 2020 Share March 17, 2020 On 3/16/2020 at 10:04 AM, Volvobrick said: MRE gets confused with Meals Ready-to-Eat. But then we have PIE. Conclusion is LTA suka suka one. Lol i guess maybe they had a hard rule once (1st 2 syllable) and now they dont care so much (all the new expressway break the rule) ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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