COVID-19: USA, Italy & the rest of Europe

[inlinesix]

14 minutes ago, Spring said:

So that means sending 20-30 emails to a 4000+ group. U consider it widely disseminating? I don't.

My only opinion is that need to follow chain of command within Army.

Edited April 3, 2020 by inlinesix

[Picnic06-Biante15]

9 minutes ago, Spring said:

"Modly called Crozier's note "a blast-out email to everyone he knows."

On one hand he says 20-30, on the other hand he says "a blast-out email to everyone he knows." 20-30 vs blasting out to everyone is a World of difference so which is which?

You didn't know USA very poor in maths.

Just like their President, "Everything is under control" ...

[Fcw75]

13 minutes ago, Picnic06-Biante15 said:

You didn't know USA very poor in maths.

Just like their President, "Everything is under control" ...

Our PM said the same thing.

[mersaylee]

CFOs make good company leader...they can crunch the numbers, they know the numbers...and tell you only the numbers you need to know...

 

[PSP415]

14 minutes ago, Fcw75 said:

Our PM said the same thing.

Sorli hor. No comparison.

That orange head nowhere near ours. Pui! So many more lives gonna die cos of this idiot. 

Take care and keep well. 

Safe ride 

Cheers 

 

[Fcw75]

16 minutes ago, PSP415 said:

Sorli hor. No comparison.

That orange head nowhere near ours. Pui! So many more lives gonna die cos of this idiot. 

Take care and keep well. 

Safe ride 

Cheers 

 

 

[PSP415]

25 minutes ago, Fcw75 said:

 

That was true then and now. 

Compare the figures of infections and deaths. 

All country leaders started off with this stance including WHO. See the efforts from there and the results.

Most of them have been doing quite well and some still putting up a real fight against Covid-19.

Just my tots.

Take care and keep well 

Safe ride 

Cheers 

[PSP415]

SK is still fighting Covid-19 even now.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/south-koreas-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-top-10000

Take care and keep well 

Safe ride 

Cheers 

[Civic2000]

Princess Cruises' Coral Princess headed to Florida with a dozen cases of COVID-19 on board

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2020/04/02/coronavirus-coral-princess-headed-florida-covid-19-board/5112764002/

Another Princess cruisehip hit by Coronavirus heading to US.

 

[Volvobrick]

3 hours ago, Spring said:

"Modly called Crozier's note "a blast-out email to everyone he knows."

On one hand he says 20-30, on the other hand he says "a blast-out email to everyone he knows." 20-30 vs blasting out to everyone is a World of difference so which is which?

No confusion. As they say it's lonely up there. He knows only 20-30 friends. Only sent 1 email to these 20-30.

All I know he damn buay zai. Like this small infection crisis kalang kabut, how to lead a fight in a battle?  Might cause more seamen to die in battle. I would replace him too. 

 

[Spring]

4 hours ago, inlinesix said:

My only opinion is that need to follow chain of command within Army.

The Commander did follow the chain of command ie raised to his superiors.

Maybe what cannot be done in Armed Forces is to let his immediate subordinates know via email but it’s also not wrong he tells them what he has done as those immediate subordinates can calm n assure the men below them.
 

This is actually good Mgmt Practice in almost all organisations bar the Uniformed Services. I respect him for being human n compassionate in this circumstance. Of course, he can’t do this during war time but that’s the issue here, it’s only operational readiness mode not war. I’m sure something can be worked out but the Americans may want to show their potential enemies that they are always ready in all circumstances including pandemic. 

[Spring]

1 hour ago, Volvobrick said:

No confusion. As they say it's lonely up there. He knows only 20-30 friends. Only sent 1 email to these 20-30.

All I know he damn buay zai. Like this small infection crisis kalang kabut, how to lead a fight in a battle?  Might cause more seamen to die in battle. I would replace him too. 

 

Depends on how u see it. U can say he buay zai, I can say he is showing compassion for his men. Like I mentioned, if he does this during war than I would say he buay zai. I don’t believe a Commander of a US aircraft carrier can rise to this position if he buay zai.

The Uniformed Services always want to show their bravado but let’s applaud him for showing the human face of the Navy which unfortunately his superiors lack. He has paid the price for this human face though. 

[inlinesix]

29 minutes ago, Spring said:

The Commander did follow the chain of command ie raised to his superiors.

Maybe what cannot be done in Armed Forces is to let his immediate subordinates know via email but it’s also not wrong he tells them what he has done as those immediate subordinates can calm n assure the men below them.
 

This is actually good Mgmt Practice in almost all organisations bar the Uniformed Services. I respect him for being human n compassionate in this circumstance. Of course, he can’t do this during war time but that’s the issue here, it’s only operational readiness mode not war. I’m sure something can be worked out but the Americans may want to show their potential enemies that they are always ready in all circumstances including pandemic. 

That carrier group is in South China Sea as deterrence.

Maybe its readiness has to be warlike.

[kobayashiGT]

White House tried to force 3M to send masks from Singapore to US

https://www.ft.com/content/cee34681-5f47-416b-9cbc-d824e9eec68e

The White House tried to force 3M to export masks to the US from its hub in Singapore as tensions with the Minnesota-based manufacturer spilled into the open in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic.

3M this week resisted demands by White House officials to send about 10m N95 respirator masks being produced in Singapore for markets in Asia to the US, according to a person with direct knowledge of the matter.

The company was reluctant to accept the White House request on legal and humanitarian grounds, as medical workers across the region would be deprived of protection, the person said.

3M executives did commit to exporting a similar number of masks to the US from a plant in China but that did not stop the White House from publicly attacking the company. Donald Trump also invoked Korean war-era powers under the Defense Production Act for the second time since the start of the outbreak. The latest effort would compel the company to sell its products to the US government if requested. 

“We hit 3M hard today after seeing what they were doing with their Masks. “P Act” all the way,” the US president wrote in a tweet on Thursday night. “Big surprise to many in government as to what they were doing — will have a big price to pay!”

Earlier in the day, Peter Navarro, the White House adviser on trade and manufacturing, had hinted at the rising tensions with the company. 

“To be frank, over the last several days we've had some issues, making sure that all of the production that 3M does around the world, enough of it is coming back here to the right places,” he said.

White House officials have also been attempting to persuade 3M to limit exports from US facilities to nearby countries, including Canada and Mexico, according to the person familiar with the matter.

The regional sales account for only one-10th of the masks 3M produces in the US but are in jeopardy because of the White House’s invocation of the DPA. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (Fema) is now allowed to use “any and all authority” to buy “the number of N95 respirators” it “determines to be appropriate” from 3M and its subsidiaries, according to the wording of the act. 

A Trump administration official with knowledge of the discussions declined to comment on specifics. But the person said there was “a tremendous amount of frustration” within the president’s coronavirus task force.

“The administration had worked very hard to ease some rules for 3M and other respirator manufacturers because those companies, 3M chief among them, had essentially promised that they would immediately be putting 35m N95s into the US marketplace. It became clear recently that wasn’t happening,” the official said. 

The move against 3M came on the same day Mr Trump invoked the DPA to force other companies to make ventilators for coronavirus patients. The president said it would help companies — including General Electric, Hill-Rom, Medtronic, ResMed, Royal Philips and Vyaire Medical — secure the supplies needed to make the ventilators.

“I am grateful to these and other domestic manufacturers for ramping up their production of ventilators during this difficult time,” Mr Trump said, adding that it would “save lives by removing obstacles in the supply chain that threaten the rapid production of ventilators”.

The president invoked the DPA late last month to compel General Motors to make ventilators, after criticising the carmaker for not doing enough to produce equipment.

Mr Trump had faced intense criticism for not invoking the DPA sooner as state governors had warned that more ventilators were needed to treat the rapid rise in patients.

The Trump administration has not enacted export controls to keep products in the US. In G20 discussions, US officials have supported statements that any trade actions should be “temporary, transparent, and appropriate”.

However, Mr Navarro hinted at a forthcoming executive order from the White House that would see the US customs agency block foreign sales of medical supplies with inflated prices. “We are going to crack down unmercifully,” Mr Navarro said. 

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Start to use force liao.

 

[Spring]

35 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

That carrier group is in South China Sea as deterrence.

Maybe its readiness has to be warlike.

Of course readiness has to be warlike but it’s now docked in Guam, not out at sea. 

[Volvobrick]

After this episode, Mexico and Canada will produce their own masks etc and US workers will be redundant. Likewise in Asia government procurements will siam 3M for not failure to fulfill contracts. No wonder 3M is reluctant. 

[Weez911]

Harsh truth.

[Jamesc]

24 minutes ago, kobayashiGT said:

White House tried to force 3M to send masks from Singapore to US

https://www.ft.com/content/cee34681-5f47-416b-9cbc-d824e9eec68e

The White House tried to force 3M to export masks to the US from its hub in Singapore as tensions with the Minnesota-based manufacturer spilled into the open in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic.

3M this week resisted demands by White House officials to send about 10m N95 respirator masks being produced in Singapore for markets in Asia to the US, according to a person with direct knowledge of the matter.

The company was reluctant to accept the White House request on legal and humanitarian grounds, as medical workers across the region would be deprived of protection, the person said.

3M executives did commit to exporting a similar number of masks to the US from a plant in China but that did not stop the White House from publicly attacking the company. Donald Trump also invoked Korean war-era powers under the Defense Production Act for the second time since the start of the outbreak. The latest effort would compel the company to sell its products to the US government if requested. 

“We hit 3M hard today after seeing what they were doing with their Masks. “P Act” all the way,” the US president wrote in a tweet on Thursday night. “Big surprise to many in government as to what they were doing — will have a big price to pay!”

Earlier in the day, Peter Navarro, the White House adviser on trade and manufacturing, had hinted at the rising tensions with the company. 

“To be frank, over the last several days we've had some issues, making sure that all of the production that 3M does around the world, enough of it is coming back here to the right places,” he said.

White House officials have also been attempting to persuade 3M to limit exports from US facilities to nearby countries, including Canada and Mexico, according to the person familiar with the matter.

The regional sales account for only one-10th of the masks 3M produces in the US but are in jeopardy because of the White House’s invocation of the DPA. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (Fema) is now allowed to use “any and all authority” to buy “the number of N95 respirators” it “determines to be appropriate” from 3M and its subsidiaries, according to the wording of the act. 

A Trump administration official with knowledge of the discussions declined to comment on specifics. But the person said there was “a tremendous amount of frustration” within the president’s coronavirus task force.

“The administration had worked very hard to ease some rules for 3M and other respirator manufacturers because those companies, 3M chief among them, had essentially promised that they would immediately be putting 35m N95s into the US marketplace. It became clear recently that wasn’t happening,” the official said. 

The move against 3M came on the same day Mr Trump invoked the DPA to force other companies to make ventilators for coronavirus patients. The president said it would help companies — including General Electric, Hill-Rom, Medtronic, ResMed, Royal Philips and Vyaire Medical — secure the supplies needed to make the ventilators.

“I am grateful to these and other domestic manufacturers for ramping up their production of ventilators during this difficult time,” Mr Trump said, adding that it would “save lives by removing obstacles in the supply chain that threaten the rapid production of ventilators”.

The president invoked the DPA late last month to compel General Motors to make ventilators, after criticising the carmaker for not doing enough to produce equipment.

Mr Trump had faced intense criticism for not invoking the DPA sooner as state governors had warned that more ventilators were needed to treat the rapid rise in patients.

The Trump administration has not enacted export controls to keep products in the US. In G20 discussions, US officials have supported statements that any trade actions should be “temporary, transparent, and appropriate”.

However, Mr Navarro hinted at a forthcoming executive order from the White House that would see the US customs agency block foreign sales of medical supplies with inflated prices. “We are going to crack down unmercifully,” Mr Navarro said. 

 

Basket like that no more BFF.

Tried to steal our masks.

Now he is my BFF Bad Friend Forever.