Singapore Reckless Drivers Part VIII

[awhtc 1,761]

6 hours ago, ktnpl said:

Unfortunately that was the old advisory from Traffic Police. The new regulations require the driver to slow down and give way. To be safe, cyclists should continue to alight and give way to faster moving vehicles.

LTA could have installed speed limiting strips to prevent cyclists from moving too fast across traffic including zebra crossings.

[Kklee 2,324]

3 hours ago, Atrecord said:

The van driver confirmed got serious error of judgement, and like his BIL (the girl's father) said, will likely be living in guilt for hurting 4 kids (hoping it's just hurt, and the girl in coma will pull through). The law will probably punish him severely too.

And I know many bros here say the Audi (and VW) has right of way. But my view is the 2 - more so for the Audi - should be punished severely too. They were clearly speeding way way above the speed limit. From the clip of the 3rd witness, who had wanted to overtake the front vehicles but delayed it cos of the 2 speeding cars approaching, can estimate the speed relative to all other vehicles. If all the other vehicles were hogging, then i rest my case. If they were however going at/near the speed limit (was it 50 km/h?), then it looks like the speedsters/racers were going at ~100 or thereabout. What right have they to do that there, endangering lives?

Just imagine that instead of a van making a bad decision doing that U-turn at the wrong moment, and it was a pregnant woman crossing the road with a young kid... I think the outcome (cannot brake in time) would not have changed, except that we'll all be reading really tragic news already. Yes, pedestrian should not have crossed, but as drivers - responsible ones - we know what should/should not be done.

(if proven really speeding excessively) Damn the Audi and VW drivers.

IMHO.
If you are the judge, a lot of drivers will go to jail. 
And this precisely why these issues still exist,  because at the end of the day,  the driver gets penalized more - not pedestrian, cyclist, motorcyclist, etc.

 

[Beanoyip 10,329]

Too bad speeding in SG is not heavily enforced. Please start putting average speed limit cameras all over.. not some static camera 

[Blueray 108,617]

36 minutes ago, Ct3833 said:

my turn to ask, whose fault ? 

version 1

100% LTA fault for poor road design, street lights not bright enough, not having signalised junction, mandatory AEB on all cars etc etc . 

 

version 2

100% taxi fault for failure to stop and give way at traffic junction

but also wondering why the chap was cycling at night in black gear, hope it was Gavin Smith. 

[Kklee 2,324]

3 minutes ago, Beanoyip said:

Too bad speeding in SG is not heavily enforced. Please start putting average speed limit cameras all over.. not some static camera 

IMHO.  
They should heavily enforce those that can be easily enforced.?
E.g.   
child not restrain in car
weekend car without day license
commercial vehicle use for social purposes 
PMD carrying passenger
 

Maybe the fines from these can fund the average speed limit cameras. 

[Kklee 2,324]

1 minute ago, Blueray said:

version 1

100% LTA fault for poor road design, street lights not bright enough, not having signalised junction, mandatory AEB on all cars etc etc . 

 

version 2

100% taxi fault for failure to stop and give way at traffic junction

but also wondering why the chap was cycling at night in black gear, hope it was Gavin Smith. 

IMHO,  I too feel like the street lightings at certain locations are not bright enough. 

[Blueray 108,617]

2 minutes ago, Kklee said:

IMHO,  I too feel like the street lightings at certain locations are not bright enough. 

i believe our street lights have standard spacing, but in some places there are many big old trees around too, so that affects the available illumination. 

[Mustank 97,094]

24 minutes ago, Kklee said:

IMHO.  
They should heavily enforce those that can be easily enforced.?
E.g.   
child not restrain in car
weekend car without day license
commercial vehicle use for social purposes 
PMD carrying passenger
 

Maybe the fines from these can fund the average speed limit cameras. 

Drive van lorry for leisure nothing wrong mah but cannot carry passenger lah

worker not equal to passenger 

some people buy van behind put mattress, can mcsp rock ah rock

[Kklee 2,324]

6 minutes ago, Mustank said:

Drive van lorry for leisure nothing wrong mah but cannot carry passenger lah

worker not equal to passenger 

some people buy van behind put mattress, can mcsp rock ah rock

Oops... i type too fast,  not detailed enough. 
Anyway, suggest to those van drivers,  please keep low profile for a while. 

[Atrecord 46,190]

2 hours ago, mikk123 said:

agree, we all should keep to the speed limit. But in reality,  when you driving a high performance Audi, Merc sports, and you drive at 50km/hr? How many Cat B drivers always follow speed limit? don't talk about those high performance car, even lorries are running around like Ferrari. This accident happened is an accumulation of our reckless driving culture here. everyone breaks the rule, unfortunately, the time the little girl is the victim. whose fault is it, when everyone breaks the rule? 

Speed limit is there for a reason - which is what the authorities (ok, they're not always 100% right, but i don't expect them to be 100% wrong too) deem is safe/dangerous, taking into consideration of various factors (they - not me - are paid to do that).

But they do give some allowance before really saman drivers, so that's why most drivers don't get saman'ed every day.

These 2 took it way too far, going on that road, at that speed.

So if they wanna take those risk, they bear the consequences. I am of the opinion that they should be punished severely - regardless of what accumulation of rules breaking.

Note that I'm not saying van is right. That the van was wrong, is a foregone conclusion.

[mikk123 992]

1 hour ago, ktnpl said:

During my 10 years driving a 3.0T turbo car until it is scrapped, I only use the high torque to accelerate to the speed limit and ease off the pedal once I reach the speed limit. I also use the signal stalk 😅. It is the driver and not the car. There are many careful drivers out there, just take a minority of black sheeps causing terror and accidents, imo.

thank you for driving a 3L turbo and keep to 50km speed limit. Next time, you can buy a 1L car, 3L running at 50km/hr is a terrible waste of the car's potential. 😁

[ktnpl 427]

3 minutes ago, mikk123 said:

thank you for driving a 3L turbo and keep to 50km speed limit. Next time, you can buy a 1L car, 3L running at 50km/hr is a terrible waste of the car's potential. 😁

Already downgraded to 2L turbo. 3L turbo has its moments, a few seconds here and there in Singapore and occasionally in Malaysia, but I am not addicted to it. My passengers (family) do not like the quick burst of acceleration and voted for the current car (comfort > speed) 😋

[Atrecord 46,190]

55 minutes ago, Kklee said:

IMHO.
If you are the judge, a lot of drivers will go to jail. 
And this precisely why these issues still exist,  because at the end of the day,  the driver gets penalized more - not pedestrian, cyclist, motorcyclist, etc.

Not really lah... I see inconsiderate, sometimes selfish, drivers everyday. Then there are the incompetent ones, the kiasi ones, very fast ones, and of course those reckless ones.

Of all these, only the reckless - and for that matter, it's the extreme reckless - ones who should be punished severely.

I don't think letting these group off lightly will eliminate the issues leh...

It's a complex problem with so easy solution, unfortunately. The ones who are paid to solve it, have to earn their keep. And it seems like they haven't done that...

[Calvin8808 379]

1 hour ago, Ct3833 said:

my turn to ask, whose fault ? 

Cyclist?

😂

[Volvobrick 39,120]

1 hour ago, 13177 said:

Confirmed no turn head and check blind spot before turn out. 

Cyclist fails to spot Taxi!  OK Just kidding but the pain is solely the cyclist's.  Taxi driver would be suspended for a few months at least.

[Volvobrick 39,120]

1 hour ago, Kklee said:

IMHO.  
They should heavily enforce those that can be easily enforced.?
E.g.   
child not restrain in car
weekend car without day license
commercial vehicle use for social purposes 
PMD carrying passenger
 

Maybe the fines from these can fund the average speed limit cameras. 

There is a general lack of resolve to do the right things among the silver servants/politi sians. Nothing moves without first spending tons of money on external consulting studies, forming committees filled by members with vested interests.  We have many rules, nut generally not enforced. Littering, smoking, taking out masks to smoke (what a joke), heavy vehicles using lane 1/2, drivers with no license/insurance etc.  Only rules enforced 101% are those affecting oppos.

 

Edited October 27, 2020 by Volvobrick

[Kklee 2,324]

1 minute ago, Volvobrick said:

There is a general lack of resolve to do the right things among the silver servants/politi sians. Nothing moves without first spending tons of money on external consulting studies, forming committees filled by members with vested interests.  We have many rules, nut generally not enforced. Littering, smoking, taking out masks to smoke (what a joke), heavy vehicles using lane 1/2, drivers with no license/insurance etc.  Only rules enforced 101% are those affecting oppos.

 

Uniquely Singapore ?  

 

[mersaylee 31,122]

2 hours ago, 13177 said:

Confirmed no turn head and check blind spot before turn out. 

Maybe got checked but neber check eyesight