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new normal .... before covid no one give a shit on handrail and lift button

so this will be the new normal for handrill auto clean ($9800) and lift button "sensor" to avoid touching?

i guess mall has to increase rental and cost will be passed on to consumer [sweatdrop] 

so many escalators and lifts ... [sly] 

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16 minutes ago, Wt_know said:

new normal .... before covid no one give a shit on handrail and lift button

so this will be the new normal for handrill auto clean ($9800) and lift button "sensor" to avoid touching?

i guess mall has to increase rental and cost will be passed on to consumer [sweatdrop] 

so many escalators and lifts ... [sly] 

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No le, before covid I already don't like to touch escalator handrail. So gross. 

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27 minutes ago, Wt_know said:

new normal .... before covid no one give a shit on handrail and lift button

so this will be the new normal for handrill auto clean ($9800) and lift button "sensor" to avoid touching?

i guess mall has to increase rental and cost will be passed on to consumer [sweatdrop] 

so many escalators and lifts ... [sly] 

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For this one if government don't step in say every malls should have this by when (date). Let the market decide.. So probably those higher end malls that have a lot of luxury retail shops mightbe the 1st few to try 1st.. Then when cost goes down to affordable level for others.. Then others may then start to see it as a feasible option. 

 

One example that might happen if government make it compulsory to have that on all shopping malls escalator by certain date.. Then what will happen is that the seller/manufacturer would have a upper hand and will not be looking to invest in R&D or economy of scale to reduce in price. So the price will always remain high. Knowing that it is composury so a lot of malls would have no choice but to purchase even if cost is high. However. If government never step in and set it compulsory, than it will be the buyers market. The seller would have to invest in R&D and economy of scale to lower the price to mess market. 

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8 minutes ago, Mockngbrd said:

No le, before covid I already don't like to touch escalator handrail. So gross. 

Same la, whether have covid or not, i dont really touch handrail on escalator, train, buses and doors, also lifts buttons and traffic light button. [sweatdrop] 

There was once before covid, saw one guy standing on the train holding onto the handrail, then he suddenly sneeze and cough non stop onto the handrail. And another time, saw one guy on the bus, then he dig his gold on his nose, after that use the same hand to touch the handrail. :sick:

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since young we educate the young to hold handrail when taking escalator for safety

now we have to reverse psycology to educate young dont touch handrail got virus

i have seen children falling down from escalator for not holding handrail hor ... dont play play

even adult can fall because of playing with phone and stumble with the person in front

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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/live-dpm-heng-swee-keat-fortitude-fourth-budget-covid-19-12769238

Watch live at 3.30pm: Heng Swee Keat delivers Fortitude Budget to support Singaporeans amid COVID-19 pandemic

SINGAPORE: Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Heng Swee Keat delivers the Fortitude Budget in Parliament on Tuesday (May 26) at 3.30pm. The Budget is the fourth this year to help support Singaporeans and businesses amid the COVID-19 pandemic. 

 

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4 hours ago, inlinesix said:

Talk and talk about technology also no use.  Are you willing to give up your privacy for the greater good?

Can you explain how loss of privacy has a deleterious effect on the average Singaporean?

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16 minutes ago, Neutrino said:

Can you explain how loss of privacy has a deleterious effect on the average Singaporean?

Maybe no harm to you.

Ppl who go to Geylang may not want to be tracked.

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3 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

Maybe no harm to you.

Ppl who go to Geylang may want to be tracked.

Want? 🤔
 

oni @Angcheek maybe 

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16 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

Maybe no harm to you.

Ppl who go to Geylang may not want to be tracked.

Maybe Apple already tracking liao.

Wait one day drive past Geylang with wife then Siri suggested ‘Are you going to L20H41 today?’ 🤣

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31 minutes ago, Neutrino said:

Can you explain how loss of privacy has a deleterious effect on the average Singaporean?

ok.. let take this on another path.

Looks at china and lets see if HK will be affected where thousand of companies will start to jump to other part of Asia to do business.

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https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/05/26/in-land-of-big-data-china-sets-individual-privacy-rights.html

China is poised to enshrine individuals' rights to privacy and personal data for the first time, a symbolic first step as more of the country of 1.4 billion people becomes digitized - and more vulnerable to leaks and hacks.

The legislation is part of China's first civil code, a sweeping package of laws that is being deliberated during the annual meeting of parliament, which began on Friday after a delay of more than two months due to the coronavirus.

According to a recent draft, an individual has a right to privacy and to have their personal information protected.

Data collectors have a duty to protect an individual's personal information and cannot obtain, disclose or conduct transactions of such data without consent.

The push to shore up data privacy in China is widely seen as an effort to protect and legitimize the country's fast-growing internet sector and place safeguards on the movement of valuable Chinese data overseas.

The legislation will need to be followed by detailed regulation spelling out how those rights will be protected, and this gives no protection from increasingly pervasive surveillance by a government that wields total control over the country's digital sphere.

Nevertheless, lawyers and legal experts say the recognition of digital privacy rights is an important first step allowing individuals who suffer from leaks to seek readdress.

"When the law hasn't set a definition for personal information, then a lot of disputes are very hard to resolve because there's no way to sue," said Xu Ke, a professor at the University of International Business and Economics in Beijing.

The legislation places China among a minority of countries building legal frameworks governing individual data privacy, although individual protections currently in place are not as strong as Europe's General Data Protection Regulations, said Chen Lei, a law professor at the City University of Hong Kong.

Legal experts say existing Chinese laws do not provide adequate protection for individuals because they don't impose significant punishment for companies responsible for breaches.

Chinese courts also have been inconsistent on privacy cases, which some blamed on inadequate regulations and guidance for a rigid court system that limits judges' scope to make new interpretations in law.

In one high-profile case, a group of 42 people sued Amazon in 2017 for breach of their personal data by scammers.

Yanming, one of those who sued the U.S. e-commerce giant, said he fell victim when a person called him with the exact order number for products he purchased. The person said there was a problem and offered a refund, luring Yanming to a phishing website planted within Amazon's website that siphoned 247,000 yuan ($34,627) from Yanming's account.

Chinese courts have ruled twice against Yanming - who requested his last name be withheld for privacy - and the other plaintiffs, however, stating that a criminal case must take place first before a civil case can start.

"The court's decision is such that companies won't value personal information protection, or digital safety practices," said Wang Congwei, the victims' lawyer.

Parliament plans to roll out separate legislation specifically on protection of personal information later this year, and lawyers say Beijing needs to set stronger penalties for breaches or leaks in order to provide effective protection.

"[The civil code] will help, whether from the perspective of civil suits, or from the perspective of safeguarding rights for the victim, it's more clear, and for the courts this is a clearer standard,"

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5 minutes ago, Fcw75 said:

Maybe Apple already tracking liao.

Wait one day drive past Geylang with wife then Siri suggested ‘Are you going to L20H41 today?’ 🤣

Buy Huawei

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51 minutes ago, Neutrino said:

Can you explain how loss of privacy has a deleterious effect on the average Singaporean?

Would the average Singaporean experience a deleterious effect if their personal tax return became available on a public website?

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