COVID-19 SG: Start of Phase 1: 407 New Cases, 9 Infections in Community (14 June)

[Picnic06-Biante15]

28 minutes ago, Fcw75 said:

How they know only masturbation leh? Hahaha...

Can enlighten us further ..... 

 

 

[Philipkee]

26 minutes ago, Sosaria said:

 

And you realize that this virus is indeed very funny, it almost never affects the people who engage in riskiest behaviour!

Many other cases that ended up in the courts for breach of covid rules, socialising and all that - not a single infection.

Moral of the story??

Actually do we know this for sure? My understanding is that they are asymptomatic but nowhere did I read that they were actually tested negative for the virus.  Or even tested for the virus.  Unless I missed something.

So they might have been totally asymptomatic but spreading it around. And they spread it to another asymptomatic person who spreads it to someone who gets symptoms and is tested and there u have it, an unlinked case.

Edited June 3, 2020 by Philipkee

[CremornePt]

14 minutes ago, Philipkee said:

and there u have it, an unlinked case.

True. An infection is an infection.

But if we're talking volume and share of infected cases,  daily unlinked cases currently account for avg 2 or 0.4% of all infections.

[Fcw75]

39 minutes ago, Picnic06-Biante15 said:

Can enlighten us further ..... 

 

 

I also want to know bro. How to enlighten you? Haha

[Mockngbrd]

1 hour ago, Tohto said:

Earlier I was at HG central, walk pass the POSB.

So many people queuing at the ATM machine and it seems like many have forgotten the safe distancing and the bank doesn't seem to enforce or checking.

+ all the finger after orh pi sai press press the ATM buttons!

Edited June 3, 2020 by Mockngbrd

[inlinesix]

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Approved travellers on new Singapore-China 'fast lane' need not serve quarantine but must do Covid-19 swab tests

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/new-rules-including-covid-19-pre-departure-and-post-arrival-tests-set-for-essential

[CremornePt]

Travellers must also submit an itinerary that must be adhered to.

So when they get here, they'll be under the exact same movement restrictions as the rest of us. I don't envy them.

No joyriding for sure! 😀 

[Yewheng]

1 hour ago, inlinesix said:

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/new-rules-including-covid-19-pre-departure-and-post-arrival-tests-set-for-essential

The criteria and steps people need to do in order to travel from China to sg and sg to China is a challenge for businesses. Like need to set aside money just incase the person like travel from sg to China and somehow tio covid-19 in China. The medical bills the person cover. Then also need to stay in quarrentine area for up to 2 days when arrived to wait for the covid-19 swap test result. Then for sg side those coming from China need to register for the safe entry and approval and also download the app for tracking purposes. Then for sg to China likewise also do the same need to download their app and tracking. 

 

With so many steps need to go through plus there is chance of later need to cover for medical bill due to somehow tio covid-19 at overseas. I bet not many companies will want people to travel from China to sg or sg to China for business travel. Those that travel out, super high chance is really very important businesses to settle. So should be okay ba. 

[Yewheng]

48 minutes ago, CremornePt said:

Travellers must also submit an itinerary that must be adhered to.

So when they get here, they'll be under the exact same movement restrictions as the rest of us. I don't envy them.

No joyriding for sure! 😀 

Beside this itinerary, the need to ownself pay for medical bills should the person somehow tio covid-19 while in overseas, then also swap test, register download the app, approval from sg side. Confirmed no joyride and those that travel confirmed is for very important business. 

[Windwaver]

7 hours ago, Sosaria said:

Reading the linked article, I have always wondered how they can come in on a work permit (which is specific to a job and an employer), they can don't show up for work and just "disappear" (and work in vice) without consequence?

As far as i know, work permit is quite restrictive. You can't even change job easily. IIRC have to return to home country, and new employer reapply WP for the worker??

So, being so restrictive, it boggles the mind, how a WP holder can just "disappear" without being detected. Nobody checks the alleged employer? Or is just a shell organisation?

Good question.

Think the best person to ask is her

 

[Jellandross]

So actually who decide whether to revoke foreign covid offenders work permit and based on what consideration? 

Man fined for having friend over during circuit breaker, says work permit revoked

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/man-fined-for-having-friend-over-during-circuit-breaker-says-12799908

Malaysian national Arvinish N Ramakrishnan, 23, said his work permit had just been cancelled a day earlier, and pleaded to be allowed to work in Singapore again.

However, the judge said this was for the relevant authority to decide and not the court.

Edited June 3, 2020 by Jellandross

[CremornePt]

6 hours ago, Sosaria said:

Very likely infected earlier.

Indeed - 

https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/407-more-cases-discharged-569-new-cases-of-covid-19-infection-confirmed

All 6 Work Pass and Work Permit holders had been identified as contacts of previously confirmed cases, and had already been placed on quarantine earlier.

[K_sujadi]

I don't think this will stop any soon, we'll live beside it, and used to it. Hope there is a discovery of vaccine soon

[Playtime]

3 hours ago, CremornePt said:

Travellers must also submit an itinerary that must be adhered to.

So when they get here, they'll be under the exact same movement restrictions as the rest of us. I don't envy them.

No joyriding for sure! 😀 

Wah... that's like go starlight... but no R&R ..🥺

No volunteers liao

[Fcw75]

COVID-19: Singapore launches drive-through test site for 'priority groups'
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-drive-through-swab-test-one-farrer-hotel-hpb-12798914

What took them so long?

[CremornePt]

9 hours ago, Philipkee said:

I wanted to say it is good that our discharges are more than the new cases but if we keep getting roughly 500 new cases a day...

Re. FW daily case numbers:

I think we've started counting ghosts.

If this is anything like the recent 14 cases of pre-school staff who came out positive, all of whom were found out to actually be post-symptomatic & non-infectious at test time, then the same would probably apply for most of the FW. These anti-body tests are sensitive and flags people who've already had the disease.

In other words we're mostly flagging FW's who've already had the virus, not fresh infections. So the daily FW numbers are mostly an indicator of number of daily tests, not new infections.

The long steady decrease of people in hospital ward admissions and ICU (currently only 6 in ICU) would support this.

Today there's only a single unlinked community case reported. We've come really far.

The remaining 3-4 weeks will hopefully take a big chunk out of the remaining asymptomatic-to-asymptomatic transmission chains.

 

[Weez911]

Experts warn of hidden reservoirs of coronavirus infections in Singapore

With six out of the seven new community cases announced yesterday being asymptomatic, it is clear there are hidden reservoirs of Covid-19 infections in the community, experts said, as Singapore enters the third day of its reopening this morning.

The circuit breaker is a success, but the country now needs to go to the next level and beat the virus completely, and one way is to work from home whenever possible and put up with the inconveniences of not being able to have face-to-face interactions, said Associate Professor Josip Car, director of the Centre for Population Health Sciences at Nanyang Technological University's Lee Kong Chian School of Medicine.

When working from home is not possible, precautionary measures such as safe distancing and wearing masks should be followed, he added.

People also need to be reminded constantly that the outbreak is ongoing and that is a reason Singapore's reopening is taking place in phases, said Professor Teo Yik Ying, dean of the National University of Singapore's Saw Swee Hock School of Public Health.

"We have seen the example from South Korea that a single individual who went clubbing resulted in an infection chain affecting at least a hundred others," he added. "This reminds us that anyone may be infected and asymptomatic, but end up spreading the infection to many others."

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/experts-warn-of-hidden-reservoirs-of-infections

[inlinesix]

10 hours ago, Yewheng said:

The criteria and steps people need to do in order to travel from China to sg and sg to China is a challenge for businesses. Like need to set aside money just incase the person like travel from sg to China and somehow tio covid-19 in China. The medical bills the person cover. Then also need to stay in quarrentine area for up to 2 days when arrived to wait for the covid-19 swap test result. Then for sg side those coming from China need to register for the safe entry and approval and also download the app for tracking purposes. Then for sg to China likewise also do the same need to download their app and tracking. 

With so many steps need to go through plus there is chance of later need to cover for medical bill due to somehow tio covid-19 at overseas. I bet not many companies will want people to travel from China to sg or sg to China for business travel. Those that travel out, super high chance is really very important businesses to settle. So should be okay ba. 

Govt will tell you, don't complain.  I already give you SOP to follow.

It is your business choice whether to travel