Blueray Hypersonic May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 Quote Singapore Vehicle Traders Association first vice-president Raymond Tang said odometer-tampering is "quite common". Customer sues over tampered mileage https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/customer-sues-over-tampered-mileage Raymond Tang already said before ... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Discoburg said: Haha just my personal preference. If I can’t afford to get it new I won’t have it that’s all. That’s why I’m still on the ‘waiting list’ for a Rolex sport model. i envy him for his wealth and belongings but that’s just not what I want. Yes i understand. Most girls are like that. studies have shown that that is due to 2 key things pride and jealousy / envy i am just advising you against having a closed mind. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 (edited) simi rule of law even a VP said ... it's common ... so suck it up Quote Singapore Vehicle Traders Association first vice-president Raymond Tang said odometer-tampering is "quite common". Edited May 23, 2020 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Yewheng said: Really feel this is a good time for law minister to step in say its enough.. And then go and debate in parliament.. To ensure that the odometer tampering thing is put to a stop. Where are you law minister now? All this trivial things, bochup one lah bro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yewheng Twincharged May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 Just now, Throttle2 said: All this trivial things, bochup one lah bro. Haiz.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Blueray said: objectively ... dealer did not win the case, its car buyer who lost the case. Dealer will face "empty" customers after these .... If I am the boss, I would have quietly paid off the customer or some extra benifits instead of going for court case .... So what you win just one case but lost numbers of protential customers in long run...... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Picnic06-Biante15 said: Dealer will face "empty" customers after these .... If I am the boss, I would have quietly paid off the customer or some extra benifits instead of going for court case .... So what you win just one case but lost numbers of protential customers in long run...... singapore people very short term memory one. give a bit of sweetener only and all is forgotten. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, Picnic06-Biante15 said: Dealer will face "empty" customers after these .... If I am the boss, I would have quietly paid off the customer or some extra benifits instead of going for court case .... So what you win just one case but lost numbers of protential customers in long run...... They claim they didn't do it wor. So means used car dealer oso kena con by seller. So they are a victim hor.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Soya said: They claim they didn't do it wor. So means used car dealer oso kena con by seller. So they are a victim hor.... I only believe 15% of the dealer stories. My point is 85% of car owners don't even know which is the speedometer cable and where it link to. Unless one work's in a motor workshops or have a vehicle mechanic friends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuelsaver Supercharged May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 If possible, just use chassis or vrn to verify w AD workshop. Or buy AD mgt units. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Picnic06-Biante15 said: I only believe 15% of the dealer stories. My point is 85% of car owners don't even know which is the speedometer cable and where it link to. Unless one work's in a motor workshops or have a vehicle mechanic friends. 9/10 used car dealer tamper odo 1/10 car owner (the really hiong one) tamper odo so ... what's the odds? lol Edited May 23, 2020 by Wt_know 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 Most car dealers have 'eagle' eyes and will spot any descriptioncies. They will press for the lowest price and sell it with a higher price in order to gain a profits to maintain the company & their salaries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky2007 Turbocharged May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 Mine about 26k mileage per year.. last time I saw a coming 3 year old car with mileage of 200k.. knew instantly that odometer is not tampered 🤪 selling 60k when new car is at 130k.. that more realistic price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fuelsaver said: If possible, just use chassis or vrn to verify w AD workshop. Or buy AD mgt units. With the new policies (Lemon Law), AD cannot force new car owners to do maintenance at their workshop. Owners can go to any "reliable" workshops for servcing (servicing - oil change, brake pads, aircon servicing, change of blown bulbs) but AD still have to honour the warranties of major parts unless owners modified the parts. So AD can't maintain the records unless the owner only goes back to them for every 10,000 km servicing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrianli Hypersonic May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 20 hours ago, Macrosszero said: Said before and I will say it again. If the authorities can be such anal d!psh!ts to microexamine welds and manufacturers' stamping marks of an exhaust system and store the photos they can jolly well record the mileage of the car that comes in for periodic inspection. Prospective car owners can then go to OneMotoring to key in their potential purchase's chassis number to verify mileage at the last inspection. Even if someone (not fingering the dealer only, some owners may do it also) wants to tweak the odometer, they cannot possibly wind it back past the last recorded mileage. I posit that this is a safety issue because a number of mechanical components on every car have to be replaced periodically. Adjusting the odometer causes these items to NOT be replaced when they need to. I mean, how hard can it be, and why do they leave things the way they are? I don't want to accuse them of protecting the unlawful, but they are definitely leaving huge holes for exploitation. 1) First 3 years of the car, no inspection. So anyone can "tune" the mileage to whatever amount they want. 2) If owner knows LTA will record mileage and he/she will get higher price for low mileage car, before each inspection they will go and adjust the mileage. It will create a whole new service of mileage adjustment in the workshop. Best way is to link the new distance based IU with the car's odometer. This way, no way to tamper the mileage. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keanC 3rd Gear May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 the new distance based IU will not get install so soon. The big Q is when?🤓 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 Why plaintiff chose not to appeal but LLST? I guess he needed to dig deeper into his pocket and have his incompetent lawyer to make it happen. Peasants always lose out with their limited resources with no guarantee outcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic May 23, 2020 Share May 23, 2020 (edited) Every thing is funny about this case to me. I laugh when I read the buyer do what job - lawyer The lawyer's lawyer did not do what - present sufficient evidence to prove his case The car dealer lawyer did not have to do what to win the case. No need to present a vigorous defense if the plaintiff lawyers did not present sufficient evidence to prove his case. The company name definition - "the Pirate norsemen". The company motto - Delivering beyond expectations. Maybe buyer expected a car with lower mileage? 6 times above expectations? The lesson the buyer learnt also funny. If I was the buyer the lesson I learnt is want to win a case its helps to know the law. Edited May 23, 2020 by Jamesc ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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