Shouyi 3rd Gear July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 @kelaihoyin Thanks for the reply. Exactly my thoughts. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansmith 2nd Gear July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 (edited) @kelaihoyin So your point is that 99% of dealers take the entire car VES rebate of $15k for themselves (which we cant actually be sure of). It is not correct for you to say that dealers take the entire $15k all of the time. Actually, you do not know how much they take whether it is $0, $15k or some of it. One way to determine is to check the usual margin that a dealer such as komoco or honda or whomever charges on a specific type of car, eg. civic or avante before the new VES rates came in. After that, check what is the margin after the VES rebate was revised to -$15k. Edited July 14, 2021 by hansmith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelaihoyin 5th Gear July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 2 hours ago, hansmith said: @kelaihoyin So your point is that 99% of dealers take the entire car VES rebate of $15k for themselves (which we cant actually be sure of). It is not correct for you to say that dealers take the entire $15k all of the time. Actually, you do not know how much they take whether it is $0, $15k or some of it. One way to determine is to check the usual margin that a dealer such as komoco or honda or whomever charges on a specific type of car, eg. civic or avante before the new VES rates came in. After that, check what is the margin after the VES rebate was revised to -$15k. Yes, I'm unsure in saying dealers take the entire $15k all the time, which is why I said this scenario remains debatable. What I know is the dealers DO take the $15k upfront. Anything downstream is an unknown. Of course one could always be optimistic and say the full rebate will be pass down to buyers. Once a car is registered the VES band hardly changes. So is hard to see the "change" in margin. One can take Skoda for example when their Scala(style/Monte Carlo) took a $20k reduction in pricing after getting into A2 band from B. However their Ambition trim also took a price cut (much more than COE difference), yet is still in the B band. So how to define their real margin is anyone's guess. At the end of the day if is a car you really desire, price is good and financials can afford, just go for it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 1st Gear July 20, 2021 Share July 20, 2021 Any Civic whatsapp to join? new owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Civic7887 Neutral Newbie July 21, 2021 Share July 21, 2021 Thailand launch 06 Aug 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellows 2nd Gear July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 (edited) 11th-Gen Honda Civic Turbo Is Hiding a Lot of Extra Power, and Hondata Found It The Honda tuner has cracked the 2022 Civic's ECU and the results are impressive. https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-honda-civic-hondata-tune-ecu-reflash/ Edited July 24, 2021 by Fellows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 On 5/31/2021 at 11:49 AM, ZeroRing7 said: Any idea if the headlamp is halogen projector or LED projector? The image from KM doesn't look like LED reflector in Gen 10 1.5T Front copy Tesla Side copy BMW 3 Rear copy Avante Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wt_know Supersonic July 25, 2021 Share July 25, 2021 (edited) it needs the 48V battery ... without the batt ... it got no rebates ... $15K VES rebates ... Audi/VW/Seat/Skoda comes with 48V batt for their 1.5T in terms of pricing .... entry conti will jiak this Honda TC for lunch and dinner Edited July 25, 2021 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic July 25, 2021 Share July 25, 2021 19 hours ago, Ct3833 said: Front copy Tesla Side copy BMW 3 Rear copy Avante it's a "b**tard"? ... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxbuzz37 Neutral Newbie August 1, 2021 Share August 1, 2021 Dunno if Kah Motors will bring in the manual variant ? See the japanese website liao, drooling. https://www.honda.co.jp/CIVIC/new/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged August 1, 2021 Share August 1, 2021 2 hours ago, maxbuzz37 said: Dunno if Kah Motors will bring in the manual variant ? See the japanese website liao, drooling. https://www.honda.co.jp/CIVIC/new/ I don't think so...Manual not much Market for B&B Cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxbuzz37 Neutral Newbie August 1, 2021 Share August 1, 2021 27 minutes ago, ER-3682 said: I don't think so...Manual not much Market for B&B Cars. Sad sia, i miss the Civic FD 2010 drove till scrap last year. There were 3 variants of manual civics (1.6, 1.8 and 2.0) when i bought my FD. Looks like a manual civic need to gt PI to help bring in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowshaun 4th Gear August 1, 2021 Share August 1, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 9:26 PM, Ct3833 said: Front copy Tesla Side copy BMW 3 Rear copy Avante The front look a bit like the new ah pek bo gey teeth new Jazz eeyeer! I actually quite like the design, even more than the avante and k3 but now that i have seen it cant unsee =X 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangadrool Supersonic August 1, 2021 Share August 1, 2021 2 hours ago, maxbuzz37 said: Sad sia, i miss the Civic FD 2010 drove till scrap last year. There were 3 variants of manual civics (1.6, 1.8 and 2.0) when i bought my FD. Looks like a manual civic need to gt PI to help bring in PI markup super high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxbuzz37 Neutral Newbie August 1, 2021 Share August 1, 2021 Damn high. 10th gen, PI selling 140k+ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic August 2, 2021 Share August 2, 2021 11 hours ago, maxbuzz37 said: Damn high. 10th gen, PI selling 140k+ can get AD Audi at $135K liao ... lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxbuzz37 Neutral Newbie August 2, 2021 Share August 2, 2021 153k can buy audi A4 liao wor. Better value for $$. Lol. Normal jap manual cars really cost u an arm or leg i. Sillypore ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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