hansmith 2nd Gear August 24, 2021 Share August 24, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 12:28 AM, Penknife said: Nonetheless I tot it’ll make sense if they uses the 1l turbo engine instead. Pay even lesser road tax. Normally, 1.0 liter turbocharged engines will end up being VES band C1 or C2 due to more polluting. There will be a very hefty VES surcharge to pay on the car. So, it doesnt make sense. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thecarboy302 3rd Gear August 24, 2021 Share August 24, 2021 3 hours ago, yellowshaun said: Acty it's avail in other markets... https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/honda/civic Hearsay 1.0T will be discontinued on Civic and will be replaced by a detuned 1.5T in some markets like China. 1 hour ago, hansmith said: Normally, 1.0 liter turbocharged engines will end up being VES band C1 or C2 due to more polluting. There will be a very hefty VES surcharge to pay on the car. So, it doesnt make sense. Honda City 1.0T was said to be in VES Band C1 if brought in hence Kah stuck to 1.5 NA, so even if Civic had a 1.0T, I don't think it will fare any better. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahtea 3rd Gear August 30, 2021 Share August 30, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 5:44 PM, Thecarboy302 said: Hearsay 1.0T will be discontinued on Civic and will be replaced by a detuned 1.5T in some markets like China. Honda City 1.0T was said to be in VES Band C1 if brought in hence Kah stuck to 1.5 NA, so even if Civic had a 1.0T, I don't think it will fare any better. Yes, the 1.0T will be discontinued in China and replaced with the same detuned 1.5T engine which we will be getting in Singapore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusedboi Supercharged August 31, 2021 Share August 31, 2021 hm so far no local reviews on the new civic yet i guess? Cant wait to see how the reviewers judge the new detuned civic😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahtea 3rd Gear August 31, 2021 Share August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Confusedboi said: hm so far no local reviews on the new civic yet i guess? Cant wait to see how the reviewers judge the new detuned civic😁 According to the SE i met at Alexandra, she told me the earliest time to see the car in the grounds of the showroom is sometime in September 2021. I guess it will be then the car would be made available for journalist to do a test drive and review. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotan 2nd Gear September 2, 2021 Share September 2, 2021 (edited) Driven dealership bringing the japan spec hatchbook soon Edited September 2, 2021 by turbotan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator September 2, 2021 Share September 2, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 8:55 PM, Confusedboi said: hm so far no local reviews on the new civic yet i guess? Cant wait to see how the reviewers judge the new detuned civic😁 I won’t be too distracted by the “detuned” Civic. Will judge the car on its own merits n not comparing against the “fully tuned” version. That’s the trouble with our local buyers, always comparing with overseas versions n lamenting why Country A has this, Country B has that etc. No point comparing as we will then always feel short changed. It is what it is here so we got to accept it. Personally, I don’t see how bad can Civic turbo even “detuned” be as the main competitors are mostly NA engines albeit cheaper like Altis, Mz3, Avante etc 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusedboi Supercharged September 2, 2021 Share September 2, 2021 46 minutes ago, Spring said: I won’t be too distracted by the “detuned” Civic. Will judge the car on its own merits n not comparing against the “fully tuned” version. That’s the trouble with our local buyers, always comparing with overseas versions n lamenting why Country A has this, Country B has that etc. No point comparing as we will then always feel short changed. It is what it is here so we got to accept it. Personally, I don’t see how bad can Civic turbo even “detuned” be as the main competitors are mostly NA engines albeit cheaper like Altis, Mz3, Avante etc well thats true, turbo engine will also have advantage of additional torque too 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelaihoyin 5th Gear September 2, 2021 Share September 2, 2021 52 minutes ago, Spring said: I won’t be too distracted by the “detuned” Civic. Will judge the car on its own merits n not comparing against the “fully tuned” version. That’s the trouble with our local buyers, always comparing with overseas versions n lamenting why Country A has this, Country B has that etc. No point comparing as we will then always feel short changed. It is what it is here so we got to accept it. Personally, I don’t see how bad can Civic turbo even “detuned” be as the main competitors are mostly NA engines albeit cheaper like Altis, Mz3, Avante etc Personally I got no issues with detuning but more of the price point. If they gonna price it in a Cat A category then 126k is a hard sell when I get get other brands with a "real" 1.5T engine under Cat B. Is no Honda and not comparing brand perception, but features wise comparable. I guess by detuning they are not trying to win over customers looking at performance, but rather at the same buyers that would have look at 1.6NA either way, those that wouldn't care much about whether they get peak torque at lower RPMs etc. These buyers I believe certainly won't be paying 20k more for a slightly better drivetrain. 🤷♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weenemone Clutched September 2, 2021 Share September 2, 2021 @kelaihoyin Yea as a first time owner looking for a family Sedan, the Octavia and Mazda 6 base trims are looking to be a much better option for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverkris 5th Gear September 2, 2021 Share September 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Spring said: I won’t be too distracted by the “detuned” Civic. Will judge the car on its own merits n not comparing against the “fully tuned” version. That’s the trouble with our local buyers, always comparing with overseas versions n lamenting why Country A has this, Country B has that etc. No point comparing as we will then always feel short changed. It is what it is here so we got to accept it. Personally, I don’t see how bad can Civic turbo even “detuned” be as the main competitors are mostly NA engines albeit cheaper like Altis, Mz3, Avante etc Because it also have to win VW also? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceecookie 5th Gear September 2, 2021 Share September 2, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 4:16 PM, hansmith said: Normally, 1.0 liter turbocharged engines will end up being VES band C1 or C2 due to more polluting. There will be a very hefty VES surcharge to pay on the car. So, it doesnt make sense. Not true that all 1 liter turbo engine are C1/C2 VES bands. The emission also depends on the engine technology, weight, rims and aerodynamic. If u see conti or korean 1.0T models, most are B or A bands. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowshaun 4th Gear September 2, 2021 Share September 2, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 8:55 PM, Confusedboi said: hm so far no local reviews on the new civic yet i guess? Cant wait to see how the reviewers judge the new detuned civic😁 Sgcarmart and ST sure say very good. And pick some inconsequential thing to gei gao with... Eg. K3 review the sole con was that the rear of driver seat don't have a pocket... Better to just test drive 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotan 2nd Gear September 2, 2021 Share September 2, 2021 7 hours ago, yellowshaun said: Sgcarmart and ST sure say very good. And pick some inconsequential thing to gei gao with... Eg. K3 review the sole con was that the rear of driver seat don't have a pocket... Better to just test drive Ya sia, seems like every car review on sgcarmart YouTube is “will buy” lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusedboi Supercharged September 10, 2021 Share September 10, 2021 On 9/3/2021 at 6:58 AM, turbotan said: Ya sia, seems like every car review on sgcarmart YouTube is “will buy” lol lol true , almost every car reviewed is will buy or go try , the only one i recall is clear cut dont buy is the opel astra. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totota Clutched September 10, 2021 Share September 10, 2021 @Weenemone personally i rather go for the octavia 1.5 tsi I saw a few in neighbourhood. Short listing best✌️3 Go for spin drive and then decision is clear ✌️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusedboi Supercharged September 11, 2021 Share September 11, 2021 23 hours ago, Totota said: @Weenemone personally i rather go for the octavia 1.5 tsi I saw a few in neighbourhood. Short listing best✌️3 Go for spin drive and then decision is clear ✌️ octavia is a good choice at that price range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybody 1st Gear September 11, 2021 Share September 11, 2021 @maxbuzz37 is it easy to get servicing and parts for manuals in SG? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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