Jamesc Hypersonic September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 (edited) What car? I give him a good price. "For one pilot, having to take a pay cut has forced him to resort to borrowing money to keep his children in overseas universities. He is also trying to sell his car. The 50-year-old pilot who declined to be named has been with the airline for 27 years." Edited September 28, 2020 by Jamesc ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 14 hours ago, Windwaver said: I still remember the first time I had that feeling you described. No way around it unless you call the shots or the company's yours to begin with. It took me some time to get around that reality and it benefited me later down my career being on the receiving end, not once but thrice and on two occasions, it was because big boss (personal decision) wanted somebody he knows to replace me (the only other occasion is truly a business decision, not a personal one) . My direct boss fought so hard (amazingly a foreigner) and got me a good package and we're still good friends to this day because I wasn't the one that screwed up. I have every reason to believe most 'retrenchments' are personal agendas but I've also accepted that's reality. If we exclude high SES ivory tower people that will never be threatened, people like us will need to adapt quickly all our lives. If we don't, we'll just be left behind. Rather than being salty over situations, I choose to adapt and move with times because the world's never a fair place. agree totally, you are paid to do YOUR job, if it comes with good boss good company then it is a bonus. Do not expect a fair play in real world and blame the 'leader' or the system, when things doesn't go my way, either adapt or make it your way! it leader not good, you work hard and take over his job or become a leader that how you want it to be. If not quit every time until you find the ideal 'leader' you want to work for. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 36 minutes ago, Jman888 said: agree totally, you are paid to do YOUR job, if it comes with good boss good company then it is a bonus. Do not expect a fair play in real world and blame the 'leader' or the system, when things doesn't go my way, either adapt or make it your way! it leader not good, you work hard and take over his job or become a leader that how you want it to be. If not quit every time until you find the ideal 'leader' you want to work for. Yup its only business. But we are only humans... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Supersonic September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 50 minutes ago, Jamesc said: What car? I give him a good price. "For one pilot, having to take a pay cut has forced him to resort to borrowing money to keep his children in overseas universities. He is also trying to sell his car. The 50-year-old pilot who declined to be named has been with the airline for 27 years." Poor chap - as a pilot for so long, he is unlikely to have any other work skills. Is it an AMG? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyotaShuttle 5th Gear September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Jman888 said: agree totally, you are paid to do YOUR job, if it comes with good boss good company then it is a bonus. Do not expect a fair play in real world and blame the 'leader' or the system, when things doesn't go my way, either adapt or make it your way! it leader not good, you work hard and take over his job or become a leader that how you want it to be. If not quit every time until you find the ideal 'leader' you want to work for. I can't agree here. We are indeed paid to do our job but it is not a bonus to have good boss good company. It should be seen as a package. Sometimes we are willing to take less pay if there is a good boss/company. Some bosses/company, you can't pay me enough to work there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyotaShuttle 5th Gear September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, Volvobrick said: Poor chap - as a pilot for so long, he is unlikely to have any other work skills. Is it an AMG? Yes poor chap. Let's play the world's smallest violin for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scion Turbocharged September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Jamesc said: What car? I give him a good price. "For one pilot, having to take a pay cut has forced him to resort to borrowing money to keep his children in overseas universities. He is also trying to sell his car. The 50-year-old pilot who declined to be named has been with the airline for 27 years." Bugger still earning 13k still dare kpkb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyotaShuttle 5th Gear September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Scion said: Bugger still earning 13k still dare kpkb Please be more sympathatic. Fella is at wits end! Quote “My monthly expenses add up to over S$19,000 a month and it’s not the right time to give up my stocks and bonds and sell my properties because I’ll get nothing. I’ll get a second job, I’ll sell my clothes if I have to,” he said. Poor fella needs to sell his clothes already - soon will be running around naked. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 (edited) expenses = $19K based on T2 formula ... if you can afford only 1 x Patek, buy a SS Lolex ... this means his monthly income previously is $50K minimum? Edited September 28, 2020 by Wt_know 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyotaShuttle 5th Gear September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Wt_know said: expenses = $19K based on T2 formula ... if you can afford only 1 x Patek, buy a SS Lolex ... this means his monthly income previously is $50K minimum? I wouldn't put any weight on dunno what t2 formula. But the pilot chap stated his previous income is 23k. (https://www.malaymail.com/news/singapore/2020/09/28/one-sees-his-flying-dream-cut-short-other-sia-pilots-become-delivery-driver/1907303). Think he bit off more than he can chew if his expenses are the kind that can't be quickly scaled down. More importantly, he is 50 years old (what is retirement age for pilots?) so should be approaching retirement and have more savings? I can understand a new pilot not having enough savings but for someone on the verge of retirement? Edited September 28, 2020 by ToyotaShuttle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 make $23k, expenses $19k ... orbigood ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, ToyotaShuttle said: I can't agree here. We are indeed paid to do our job but it is not a bonus to have good boss good company. It should be seen as a package. Sometimes we are willing to take less pay if there is a good boss/company. Some bosses/company, you can't pay me enough to work there. in a real world, things dun drop on your lap, either you work hard or you pray hard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tkseah Supercharged September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, Scion said: Bugger still earning 13k still dare kpkb And gov using our money to pay his salary... 😡 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tkseah said: And gov using our money to pay his salary... 😡 he can also say ... it his many years tax paying money ... Edited September 28, 2020 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyotaShuttle 5th Gear September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jman888 said: in a real world, things dun drop on your lap, either you work hard or you pray hard. I also agree with you. Things won't drop it your lap. What I disagree about is calling it a bonus. In addition to work hard and pray hard, I also suggest to look hard. If the company is lousy then be prepared to ditch it - work hard and pray hard in a lousy company or under a lousy boss is no use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, ToyotaShuttle said: Please be more sympathatic. Fella is at wits end! Poor fella needs to sell his clothes already - soon will be running around naked. Got SQ girl selling bra/panty? my fren asking Edited September 28, 2020 by Mockngbrd 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windwaver Turbocharged September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 40 minutes ago, Wt_know said: make $23k, expenses $19k ... orbigood ... Yeah, I read that article. I wonder what's the point about the article, mock at low SES people? https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/one-sees-his-flying-dream-cut-short-other-sia-pilots-become-delivery-drivers-retire-early For one pilot, having to take a pay cut has forced him to resort to borrowing money to keep his children in overseas universities. He is also trying to sell his car. The 50-year-old pilot who declined to be named has been with the airline for 27 years. He told TODAY that he is cash-strapped because the money he has earned during the span of his career has been invested in properties, stocks and bonds. On average, he used to earn S$23,000 a month compared to S$13,000 these days. “My monthly expenses add up to over S$19,000 a month and it’s not the right time to give up my stocks and bonds and sell my properties because I’ll get nothing. I’ll get a second job, I’ll sell my clothes if I have to,” he said. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 Quote invested in properties, stocks and bonds. poor f**ker ↡ Advertisement 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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