COVID-19 SG: Start of Phase 2 from 19 June

[CremornePt]

Yep.

And coupled with less lethality, I think it's a very real scenario, that after 3-4 years max, in the end we'll just "let it go".

https://www.firstpost.com/health/coronavirus-outbreak-how-did-the-previous-pandemics-end-when-will-we-know-that-it-is-over-8356321.html

We can't keep cowering forever. "New normal" is a misnomer - there's nothing "normal" about life long 24/7 face masks and restricted socialisation.

However, I still think we're on target for a vaccine to put COVID-19 on a definitive retreat end-2021.

[Fcw75]

And 10 years down the road, many countries will look back and think locking down is stupid. From health crisis become economic crisis.

Citizens have to play a big part too like wearing mask, keep hands clean, avoid mingling and keep a safety distance.

[ToyotaShuttle]

3 hours ago, Sosaria said:

I confused ..... even the epidemiologist who did the contact tracing calls, according to the article, required a mandarin interpreter, and from the name, likely also from PRC - how can there be misunderstanding??

I think his argument is that the court/interpreter misunderstood. not that the contact tracer misunderstood.,

[ToyotaShuttle]

16 minutes ago, CremornePt said:

Yep.

And coupled with less lethality, I think it's a very real scenario, that after 3-4 years max, in the end we'll just "let it go".

https://www.firstpost.com/health/coronavirus-outbreak-how-did-the-previous-pandemics-end-when-will-we-know-that-it-is-over-8356321.html

We can't keep cowering forever. "New normal" is a misnomer - there's nothing "normal" about life long 24/7 face masks and restricted socialisation.

However, I still think we're on target for a vaccine to put COVID-19 on a definitive retreat end-2021.

You wear masks at home too? 

[CremornePt]

1 minute ago, ToyotaShuttle said:

You wear masks at home too? 

Of course not. But I believe we're actually supposed to when having outside household guests over.

[ToyotaShuttle]

8 minutes ago, CremornePt said:

Of course not. But I believe we're actually supposed to when having outside household guests over.

I asked because you said 24/7. No, I don't think it is necessary to wear masks at home even if you have guests over. Per this ST article,  it is merely encouraged.
 

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Q: MUST MASKS BE WORN INDOORS, ESPECIALLY WHEN VISITING ANOTHER PERSON'S HOME?

A: The Health Ministry said that household visitors are strongly encouraged to observe safe management principles, including wearing a mask, keeping a safe distance of at least 1m, minimising physical contact and washing hands regularly.

People should not be visiting others if they are unwell.

Masks must still be worn when outside homes.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/visitors-to-homes-should-wear-masks

 

[CremornePt]

5 minutes ago, ToyotaShuttle said:

Per this ST article,  it is merely encouraged.

I see your ST article & raise with a legally mandated control order: 😀

https://sso.agc.gov.sg/SL/COVID19TMA2020-S254-2020?DocDate=20200424#pr3A-

"must wear a mask at all times when the individual is not in his or her ordinary place of residence"

Although oddly enough, I guess that excludes the household inhabitants themselves?

Anyway...😀

[Voodooman]

2 hours ago, Fcw75 said:

And 10 years down the road, many countries will look back and think locking down is stupid. From health crisis become economic crisis.

Citizens have to play a big part too like wearing mask, keep hands clean, avoid mingling and keep a safety distance.

The verdict is still out. I think. 

Just look at the US, they are running out of beds and the death toll is rising.  Did Italy needed a lockdown? 

[Fcw75]

3 minutes ago, Voodooman said:

The verdict is still out. I think. 

Just look at the US, they are running out of beds and the death toll is rising.  Did Italy needed a lockdown? 

The problem is their US citizens care more about their rights. Don't want wear mask, etc. 

[Blueray]

Explainer: The D614G strain of the coronavirus is purportedly more infectious. Should Singaporeans be afraid?

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SINGAPORE — A strain of the Sars-CoV-2 coronavirus, believed to be more infectious than the original strain from Wuhan in China, has been showing up in parts of Asia.

Known as D614G, the strain was recently detected in the Philippines and Malaysia.
 

Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/explainer-d614g-strain-coronavirus-more-infectious-should-singaporeans-be-afraid

 

Edited August 18, 2020 by Blueray

[Sosaria]

28 minutes ago, Blueray said:

Explainer: The D614G strain of the coronavirus is purportedly more infectious. Should Singaporeans be afraid?

Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/explainer-d614g-strain-coronavirus-more-infectious-should-singaporeans-be-afraid

Yes, if we allow people from there to enter here.

[Weez911]

We are stuck in a time loop.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/new-covid-19-cases-detected-in-cleared-migrant-worker-dorms-13030954?cid=FBcna&fbclid=IwAR2l_imuIPXxX1Bl_eN2llXfzjw-7xEx-WNXdtd0YxzgEzvQizXixg2tFMU

COVID-19 cases detected again in cleared migrant worker dorms, about 7,000 quarantined due to new infections

SINGAPORE: About 100 new COVID-19 cases have been detected in migrant worker dormitories previously given the all clear from the virus, said the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) and the Ministry of Health (MOH) on Tuesday (Aug 18).

They added that these cases were picked up through routine testing that is conducted biweekly, and that some of the workers had returned to their jobs. 

"We have taken timely actions to contain and isolate the COVID-19 positive cases. We have also taken aggressive actions to contain, trace and isolate the close contacts," said the ministries in a joint reply to CNA's queries.  

"To date, over 60 per cent of cases have been closed. The measures taken have resulted in effective containment with only small numbers of additional cases detected."

As a result of the new cases, about 7,000 migrant workers were quarantined, and less than 2 per cent of them were found to have contracted the coronavirus, said MOM and MOH. 

"These are being managed according to strict protocols and reinforced with more centralised quarantine facilities made available through the completion of dormitory clearance," they added.

It was announced last Wednesday that 800 migrant workers were "newly quarantined" after one COVID-19 case was discovered among them in a cleared dormitory.

The ministries said authorities have taken a "measured approach", placing immediate close contacts of the infected worker in a dedicated quarantine facility.

They added that residents in the cleared block of a purpose-built dormitory where the infected worker lived were all quarantined. 

"When we detect a new COVID-19 positive case within a cleared site, we will promptly quarantine the entire block as a precautionary measure and conduct aggressive swabbing on all migrant workers in the block," said the ministries. 

"We will rescind the quarantine subsequently for workers who are assessed to be not at risk," they added.

"While this approach could affect up to a few hundred migrant workers for each case, it ensures that we contain the detected case and minimise spreading that could end up affecting thousands others."

[Voodooman]

1 hour ago, Fcw75 said:

The problem is their US citizens care more about their rights. Don't want wear mask, etc. 

It is what is is and when ICU beds are full, you have no ventilator and people are dying, what do you do?

Of course we don't want to get there, so the first line of defence is always to mask up, wash hands and social distance.

We probably panicked with the dorm cases and pulled the trigger too early but lockdown may be necessary in some places like Italy, Spain and i think some of the US states.

[Unltd]

5 hours ago, Yewheng said:

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/infectious-covid-19-mutation-may-024505905.html

 

Virus mutate.. But Paul tambya think it's a good thing.. 

 

So hopefully this mutation does make it less lethal and then it will soon become a common flu. 

Saying it may be a good thing vs saying it is a good thing is very different. He also explained why it may be a good thing, he didn’t rule out that it could be bad.

What he’s saying is based on experience and the trajectory now, it could be a good thing.

[Yewheng]

2 minutes ago, Unltd said:

Saying it may be a good thing vs saying it is a good thing is very different. He also explained why it may be a good thing, he didn’t rule out that it could be bad.

What he’s saying is based on experience and the trajectory now, it could be a good thing.

Thanks for explaining.. Okay ya.. Hopefully this mutation could result in more of common flu type and not becoming more lethal.. 

[Voodooman]

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3097732/hong-kong-revokes-permission-air-india-charter

HK acted.

[Yewheng]

4 hours ago, Fcw75 said:

And 10 years down the road, many countries will look back and think locking down is stupid. From health crisis become economic crisis.

Citizens have to play a big part too like wearing mask, keep hands clean, avoid mingling and keep a safety distance.

This one sure will be in history book.. Like future generations will study covid-19 history. Where now we study Spanish flu history. 

[CremornePt]

11 minutes ago, Unltd said:

Saying it may be a good thing vs saying it is a good thing is very different. He also explained why it may be a good thing, he didn’t rule out that it could be bad.

Tambya really does sound like a politician! 😀