Full Totalitarian State - Xinjiang

[Victor68]

3 hours ago, Jamesc said:

People that are born Chinese saying China good, China good, Xi good, Xi good

and say China is superior 

sounds so much to me like White people saying White people are superior.

So if the forumer is Indian must come here and say India good, India good?

Whatever origin a person comes from are in material as long you are a good person. The type that goes around occupying, threaten, bomb, force other to convert,  agree with their way of life are bad. I should also add take advantages. So just tick the boxes you know who are good and the bad ones. 

Edited April 2, 2021 by Victor68

[Beregond]

8 minutes ago, Victor68 said:

Whatever origin a person comes from are in material as long you are a good person. The type that goes around occupying, threaten, bomb, force other to convert,  agree with their way of life are bad. I should also add take advantages. So just tick the boxes you know who are good and the bad ones. 

i dun want to say china is all that noble and clean, they too got their own fake news , popaganda and cover up. but look at western side . bbc a good example. what they are doing is alot worst.

if both are thieves. i rank the thieves that keep shouting thieves lower then  every 1 else.

regrading the mistreatment of muslim world wide.  i dun need to say much , every 1 touch your heart and ask yourself,

from thousand of years ago to this day, who is the biggest culprit?

the west or china. 

[Victor68]

The answer is very obvious by just looking back our history. Who were meddling in the middle east that cause today problems? Which non muslim countries have the most muslim? How many muslim were killed and under what conditions?

[Nolicense]

2 minutes ago, Beregond said:

i dun want to say china is all that noble and clean, they too got their own fake news , popaganda and cover up. but look at western side . bbc a good example. what they are doing is alot worst.

if both are thieves. i rank the thieves that keep shouting thieves lower then  every 1 else.

regrading the mistreatment of muslim world wide.  i dun need to say much , every 1 touch your heart and ask yourself,

from thousand of years ago to this day, who is the biggest culprit?

the west or china. 

lol.. if keep score board the west win hands down. because capitalistic exploitation is the practice.

now start to talk about ethics and use ethics to sanction as a weapon. 

every country got a hidden agenda. just that the west are more eloquent about how they shout thieves.

[Atonchia]

2 hours ago, Nolicense said:

lol.. if keep score board the west win hands down. because capitalistic exploitation is the practice.

now start to talk about ethics and use ethics to sanction as a weapon. 

every country got a hidden agenda. just that the west are more eloquent about how they shout thieves.

If do it often enough.... 

Practice enough... 

Will know the intricacies..... 

Then throw it to others before they even know its coming.... 😅

[Thaiyotakamli]

borrowed this from a Malaysian YouTuber’s comment:

 

 

“I’m from Malaysia. China has traded with Malaysia for 2000 years. In those years, they had been the world’s biggest powers many times. Never once they sent troops to take our l4nd. Admiral Zhenghe came to Malacca five times, in gigantic fleets, and a flagship eight times the size of Christopher Columbus’ flagship, Santa Maria. He could have seized Malacca easily, but he did not. In 1511, the Portuguese came. In 1642, the Dutch came. In the 18th century the British came. We were colonised by each, one after another. When China wanted spices from India, they traded with the Indians. When they wanted gems, they traded with the Persian. They didn’t take lands. The only time China expanded beyond their current borders was in Yuan Dynasty, when Genghis and his descendants Ogedei Khan, Guyuk Khan & Kublai Khan concurred China, Mid Asia and Eastern Europe. Yuan Dynasty, although being based in China, was a part of the Mongolian Empire. Then came the Century of Humiliation. Britain smuggled opium into China to dope the population, a strategy to turn the trade deficit around, after the British could not find enough silver to pay the Qing Dynasty in their tea and porcelain trades. After the opium warehouses were burned down and ports were closed by the Chinese in ordered to curb opium, the British started the Opium War I, which China lost. Hong Kong was forced to be surrendered to the British in a peace talk (Nanjing Treaty). The British owned 90% of the opium market in China, during that time, Queen Victoria was the world’s biggest drug baron. The remaining 10% was owned by American merchants from Boston. Many of Boston’s institutions were built with profit from opium. After 12 years of Nanjing Treaty, the West started getting really really greedy. The British wanted the Qing government: 1. To open the borders of China to allow goods coming in and out freely, and tax free. 2. Make opium legal in China. Insane requests, Qing government said no. The British and French (with supports from the US), started Opium War II with China, which again, China lost. The Anglo-French military raided the Summer Palace, and threatened to burn down the Imperial Palace, the Qing government was forced to pay with ports, free business zones, 300,000 kilograms of silver and Kowloon was taken. Since then, China’s resources flew out freely through these business zones and ports. In the subsequent amendment to the treaties, Chinese people were sold overseas to serve as labor. In 1900, China suffered attacks by the 8-National Alliance (Empire of Japan, Russian Empire, British Empire (including India), France, USA, Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary). Innocent Chinese civilians in Peking (Beijing now) were murdered, buildings were destroyed & women were raped. The Imperial Palace was raided, and treasures ended up in museums like the British Museum in London and the Louvre in Paris. In late 1930s China was occupied by the Japanese in WWII. Millions of Chinese died during the occupancy. 300,000 Chinese died in Nanjing Massacre alone. Mao brought China together again from the shambles. There were peace and unity for some time. But Mao’s later reign saw sufferings and deaths from famine and power struggles. Then came Deng Xiao Ping and his infamous 'bl4ck-cat and wh1te-cat' story. His preference in pragmatism than ideologies has transformed China. This thinking allowed China to evolve all the time to adapt to the actual needs in the country, instead of rigidly bounded to ideologies. It also signified the death of Communism in actually practice in China. The current Socialism+Meritocracy+Market Economy model fits the Chinese like gloves, and it propels the uprise of China. Singapore has a similar model, and has been arguably more successful than Hong Kong, because Hong Kong being gateway to China, was riding on the economic boom in China, while Singapore had no one to gain from. In just 30 years, the CPC have moved 800 millions of people out from poverty. The rate of growth is unprecedented in human history. They have built the biggest mobile network, by far the biggest high speed rail network in the world, and they have become a behemoth in infrastructure. They made a fishing village called Shenzhen into the world’s second largest technological centre after the Silicon Valley. They are growing into a technological power house. It has the most elaborate e-commerce and cashless payment system in the world. They have launched exploration to Mars. The Chinese are living a good life and China has become one of the safest countries in the world. The level of patriotism in the country has reached an unprecedented height. For all of the achievements, the West has nothing good to say about it. China suffers from intense ant1-China propagandas from the West. Western Media used the keyword “Communist” to instil fear and hatred towards China. Everything China does is negatively reported. They claimed China used slave labor in making iPhones. The truth was, Apple was the most profitable company in the world, it took most of the profit, leave some to Foxconn (a Taiwanese company) and little to the labor. They claimed China was inhuman with one-child policy. At the same time, they accused China of polluting the earth with its huge population. The fact is the Chinese consume just 30% of energy per capita compared to the US. They claimed China underwent ethnic cleansing in Xinjiang. The fact is China has a policy which priorities ethnic minorities. For a long time, the ethnic minorities were allowed to have two children and the majority Han only allowed one. The minorities are allowed a lower score for university intakes. There are 39,000 mosque in China, and 2100 in the US. China has about 3 times more mosque per musl1m than the US. When terrorist attacks happened in Xinjiang, China had two choices: 1. Re-educate the Uighur (CENSURED by Youtube) before they turned (CENSURED by Youtube). (**Here I could not copy the exact word, since today it is censored by YouTube if I write it next to the indicated ethnicity. It is the one used to identify those crazy people who are killing people thinking that by doing this they will be able to go to paradise**). 2. Let them be, after they launch attacks and killed innocent people, bomb their homes. China chose 1 to solve problem from the root and not to do killing. How the US solve terrorism? Fire missiles from battleships, drop bombs from the sky. During the pandemic, When China took extreme measures to lockdown the people, they were accused of being inhuman. When China recovered swiftly because of the extreme measures, they were accused of lying about the actual numbers. When China’s cases became so low that they could provide medical support to other countries, they were accused of politically motivated. Western Media always have reasons to bash China. Just like any country, there are irresponsible individuals from China which do b4d things, but the China government overall has done very well. But I hear this comment over and over by people from the West: I like Chinese people, but the CPC is evil. What they really want is the Chinese to change the government, because the current one is too good. Fortunately China is not a multi-party democratic country, otherwise the opposition party in China will be supported by notorious NGOs (Non-Government Organization) of the USA, like the NED (National Endowment for Democracy), to topple the ruling party. The US and the British couldn’t crack Mainland China, so they work on Hong Kong. Of all the ex-British colonial countries, only the Hong Kongers were offered BNOs by the British. Because the UK would like the Hong Kongers to think they are British citizens, not Chinese. A divide-and-conquer strategy, which they often used in Color Revolutions around the world. They resort to low d*rty tricks like detaining Huawei’s CFO & banning Huawei. They raised a silly trade war which benefits no one. Trade deficit always exist between a developing and a developed country. USA is like a luxury car seller who ask a farmer: why am I always buying your vegetables and you haven’t bought any of my cars? When the Chinese were making socks for the world 30 years ago, the world let it be. But when Chinese started to make high technology products, like Huawei and DJI, it caused red-alert. Because when Western and Japanese products are equal to Chinese in technologies, they could never match the Chinese in prices. First world countries want China to continue in making socks. Instead of stepping up themselves, they want to pull China down. The recent movement by the US against China has a very important background. When Libya, Iran, and China decided to ditch the US dollar in oil trades, Gaddafi’s was killed by the US, Iran was being sanctioned by the US, and now it’s China’s turn. The US has been printing money out of nothing. The only reason why the US Dollar is still widely accepted, is because it’s the only currency which oil is allowed to be traded with. The US has an agreement with Saudi that oil must be traded in US dollar ONLY. Without the petrol-dollar status, the US dollars will sink, and America will fall. Therefore anyone trying to disobey this order will be eliminated. China will soon use a gold-backed crypto-currency, the alarms in the White House go off like mad. China’s achievement has been by hard work. Not by looting the world. I have deep sympathy for China for all the suffering, but now I feel happy for them. China is not rising, they are going back to where they belong. Good luck China. *(This message has been censored on YouTube, I replaced some letters of the text with numbers to avoid the YT algorithm)

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[Atonchia]

11 hours ago, Kopites said:

Youtube footage probably fabricated. West conspiracy theory.

 

I know some people who were in the yellow ribbon project... 

Much hype and hooha about helping ex-offenders..... 

Basically is also exploitation... Of cheap labour....... a thin veil of helping them.... 

 

[Atonchia]

 

[Kopites]

7 minutes ago, Atonchia said:

I know some people who were in the yellow ribbon project... 

Much hype and hooha about helping ex-offenders..... 

Basically is also exploitation... Of cheap labour....... a thin veil of helping them.... 

 

I reckon those on our yellow project should be more of a short term measure to aide them in re entering into the society. If I am not wrong our yellow ribbon project should be more like voluntary basis.

 

[Nolicense]

1 hour ago, Kopites said:

I reckon those on our yellow project should be more of a short term measure to aide them in re entering into the society. If I am not wrong our yellow ribbon project should be more like voluntary basis.

 

I read somewhere most have to stay in the yellow ribbon employer because no one else will hire them. many place will never hire them. period.

[Kopites]

32 minutes ago, Nolicense said:

I read somewhere most have to stay in the yellow ribbon employer because no one else will hire them. many place will never hire them. period.

Humanity and Economically not moving in parallel. This is the sad part as to our so society. We need more such yellow ribbon initiative.

 

[Atonchia]

3 hours ago, Kopites said:

I reckon those on our yellow project should be more of a short term measure to aide them in re entering into the society. If I am not wrong our yellow ribbon project should be more like voluntary basis.

 

I heard the pay is worse than NS during the period. 

The local employers also try to squeeze as much as possible. 

So basically from the prisoners POV is the YRP is basically to get cheap labour on a veil of accepting them back to society.... 

Thay said it LPPL situation.... either either do it to show repentance.... Or risk going back wayward side.... 

Paying back society is one thing.... 

Thickening pockets of employers is another.... 

I meant  if we all think this exploitation is reasonable to help the ex-offenders re-integrate to the society.... Then even if Xinjiang really doing something to re-integrate those brainwashed as terrorist back to normal contributing citizens... 

Then it should be humane.... 

Unless they purposely torture and kill them to harvest their organs...... 

Maybe those 500+ dead Burmese were meant to supply. 

Edited April 2, 2021 by Atonchia

[Atonchia]

8 hours ago, Jamesc said:

I is not Thai but I say Thai culture is great.

I is not Taiwanese but I say Taiwanese culture is great.

I is not Japanese but I say Japanese culture is great.

I is not Korean but I say Korean culture is great.

I is not Vietnamese but I say Vietnamese culture is great.

Who can say one is better than another?

 

That's totally irrelevant.... 

One is culture.... 

What your were trying to say is Seafood is universal........

Maybe people of different cultures.... All the places you mentioned have long coastal areas.... Many also love abalone, cockles and oysters....... 

 

 

[Nolicense]

1 hour ago, Atonchia said:

 

That's totally irrelevant.... 

One is culture.... 

What your were trying to say is Seafood is universal........

Maybe people of different cultures.... All the places you mentioned have long coastal areas.... Many also love abalone, cockles and oysters....... 

 

 

yes i also love abalone, cockles and oysters.. they remind me of something else.. lol

[Datsun366]

On 4/1/2021 at 7:24 PM, Victor68 said:

I have been to tibet on a tour. I cannot remember if the agency apply visa or not but I have not heard of rejection so far unless you are one of those extremists.  While there, there is NO restriction on who you can talk to in public or must be guided wherever you go. So, I don't know what you are implying or you have any different experience which you wish to share. I have shared mine. In total we have 5 tour buses in that trip. No difference from my other tour to china or any other countries. 

Not to say there is or not restriction or overt guidance.

Describing an elephant to the best of our abilities?

An example, ppl complain that it is cold in the polyclinic and or ICUs...why? Human physiology manipulation to reduce cardiac load as well as reduce bacterial proliferation and transmission, not to mention can hear the patients grumbling about cold. Cannot hear patients making sound jin jialat liao.

Laymen do not appreciate this deliberate application of knowledge to elicit specific goals. Some say even got hantu to this day.

Chopsticks are interesting, they bind a large region together as like a coastline. Its like a ladys card, the men dont get it.

Diversity in values leads to conflict and thus binding values are all the more precious as like abalone, cockles and assorted shellfish...Aquaman say one.

My best friend in this life was born in one culture and brought up in another as an adoption. People like him are bridges because they see things as human and not dictated by cooking recipes or rubbish concepts such as cultural superiorities.

Strangely, i did not see him as his appearance but as a good person during initial interaction.

Wonder why?

 

[Kb27]

9 hours ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

borrowed this from a Malaysian YouTuber’s comment:

 

Dear Malaysian, 

I sincerely hope you don't mind China draw their 9 dash line right up to your border. You seem to be a great Chinese fan.

[Victor68]

2 hours ago, Datsun366 said:

Not to say there is or not restriction or overt guidance.

Describing an elephant to the best of our abilities?

An example, ppl complain that it is cold in the polyclinic and or ICUs...why? Human physiology manipulation to reduce cardiac load as well as reduce bacterial proliferation and transmission, not to mention can hear the patients grumbling about cold. Cannot hear patients making sound jin jialat liao.

Laymen do not appreciate this deliberate application of knowledge to elicit specific goals. Some say even got hantu to this day.

Chopsticks are interesting, they bind a large region together as like a coastline. Its like a ladys card, the men dont get it.

Diversity in values leads to conflict and thus binding values are all the more precious as like abalone, cockles and assorted shellfish...Aquaman say one.

My best friend in this life was born in one culture and brought up in another as an adoption. People like him are bridges because they see things as human and not dictated by cooking recipes or rubbish concepts such as cultural superiorities.

Strangely, i did not see him as his appearance but as a good person during initial interaction.

Wonder why?

 

Bro can summarise into 1 or 2 phrases in what you are trying to say? 

[Spurman]

2 hours ago, Kb27 said:

Dear Malaysian, 

I sincerely hope you don't mind China draw their 9 dash line right up to your border. You seem to be a great Chinese fan.

Btw dun conclude anything.

Pornoganda by west and china are working so hard that all of us here r divided. Hehe