Lethalstrike Turbocharged June 20, 2020 Share June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Yewheng said: https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/parliament-toc-applies-for-judicial-review-of-pofma-direction-on-ho-chings-pay Btw how does hsk know Ho Ching does not make 100m a year, aren't salary is secret?? Also if want to issue pofma, aren't it should be Ho Ching to be the one to voice out that she doe not make 100m a year and then government to decide whether or not to pofma? Coz the salary is Ho Ching take leh.. If she never say anything why government need to step in? Termasek is a private entity right? So why need government step in for pofma? Even if the information published is false, a private entity how come can have so much power from government to issue pofma? If government can issue pofma for Ho Ching salary, then if let's say someone published say Siong Siong ceo salary (for example) and then the information is not correct, like that government can issue pofma? Hmm.. The line need to be drawn very clear for pofma.. If not people will not be convinced. https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Acts-Supp/18-2019/Published/20190625?DocDate=20190625 Public interest is concern.. Hmm.. Like that say someone published something this is false on opposition mp. Like that government can issue pofma due to public interest? Coz it is opposition mp and surely also gain a lot of public interest right? So where do pofma draw a line? POFMA will never draw the line here in Singapore. It won't ever be used against themselves. You've asked the right questions, but we won't ever get the right answers as the legislature, judiciary and executive branches of the government are non-independent of each other here. The Head of Government aka the Prime Minister is supposedly to have direct influence within the Executive branch only, but we all knew that that's not the case. ↡ Advertisement 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playtime Twincharged June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 17 hours ago, Yewheng said: Termasek is a private entity right? i never understood this... how in the world can it be considered private??? unless its for the intention of preventing any new govt from having control..... then its very ominous 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tianmo Hypersonic June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/general-election-sdp-chee-soon-juan-bukit-batok-smc-12855996 Yes, this one I support, and I hope he wins!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidice Neutral Newbie June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 For the good of SDP, CSJ should retire and take a back seat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 18 hours ago, Yewheng said: https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/parliament-toc-applies-for-judicial-review-of-pofma-direction-on-ho-chings-pay Btw how does hsk know Ho Ching does not make 100m a year, aren't salary is secret?? Also if want to issue pofma, aren't it should be Ho Ching to be the one to voice out that she doe not make 100m a year and then government to decide whether or not to pofma? Coz the salary is Ho Ching take leh.. If she never say anything why government need to step in? Termasek is a private entity right? So why need government step in for pofma? Even if the information published is false, a private entity how come can have so much power from government to issue pofma? If government can issue pofma for Ho Ching salary, then if let's say someone published say Siong Siong ceo salary (for example) and then the information is not correct, like that government can issue pofma? Hmm.. The line need to be drawn very clear for pofma.. If not people will not be convinced. https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Acts-Supp/18-2019/Published/20190625?DocDate=20190625 Public interest is concern.. Hmm.. Like that say someone published something this is false on opposition mp. Like that government can issue pofma due to public interest? Coz it is opposition mp and surely also gain a lot of public interest right? So where do pofma draw a line? The answer is the gahmen will never draw that line as long as it is in their selfish, narrow interests to keep things vague and thoroughly in their favour. Totally scummy behaviour as far as I'm concerned. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Turbocharged June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 (edited) On 6/20/2020 at 9:41 AM, Lethalstrike said: There's a reason why live broadcasting of parliament sittings has been stopped. It's to prevent people from seeing the incumbents fumble and ask nonconstructive questions. And its convenient for the MSM to edit out portions which plays to the advantage of the opposition, before using these "highlights" for mass broadcast later. According to Grace Fu, live broadcasting online don't add transparency and we risk turning our parliament into a theatre. https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/live-parliament-sessions-dont-add-transparency-risk-turning-sittings-form-theatre-grace LKY was right. Why should the PAP make it a level playing field for the oppositions? If they are that good, they should be finding ways around the roadblocks. That is until they lose a GRC then come out say sorry and shed tears on TV 😂 Actually those politicians with education, training in law and legal profession fare best at "live" performance talking and debating, thinking on their feet. Note that LKY had this background too, thus his ability to connect with the masses and his oratory skills. Those others, engineers, doctors, accountants, who the heck cares how expert they are and how much they make outside, most are terrible at public speaking and EQ. So, better not have any live broadcast Edited June 21, 2020 by Sosaria 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 Not me but from Facebook. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartlander Turbocharged June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Fcw75 said: Not me but from Facebook. I doubt he was ever a PAP supporter at all to begin with. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeshe Turbocharged June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Tianmo said: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/general-election-sdp-chee-soon-juan-bukit-batok-smc-12855996 Yes, this one I support, and I hope he wins!!!! He cant even win in 2016 by election, any difference now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuPerBoRed Twincharged June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 23 hours ago, Yewheng said: https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/parliament-toc-applies-for-judicial-review-of-pofma-direction-on-ho-chings-pay Btw how does hsk know Ho Ching does not make 100m a year, aren't salary is secret?? Also if want to issue pofma, aren't it should be Ho Ching to be the one to voice out that she doe not make 100m a year and then government to decide whether or not to pofma? Coz the salary is Ho Ching take leh.. If she never say anything why government need to step in? Termasek is a private entity right? So why need government step in for pofma? Even if the information published is false, a private entity how come can have so much power from government to issue pofma? If government can issue pofma for Ho Ching salary, then if let's say someone published say Siong Siong ceo salary (for example) and then the information is not correct, like that government can issue pofma? Hmm.. The line need to be drawn very clear for pofma.. If not people will not be convinced. https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Acts-Supp/18-2019/Published/20190625?DocDate=20190625 Public interest is concern.. Hmm.. Like that say someone published something this is false on opposition mp. Like that government can issue pofma due to public interest? Coz it is opposition mp and surely also gain a lot of public interest right? So where do pofma draw a line? The eg ur draw is flawed btw... the effect of saying random ceo vs Ho Ching is totally different.. of cus the malicious intent if any is different as well. Ho Ching is ceo of gahmen linked company. Gahmen hv every right to pursue it. pofma gives gahmen a legal way to pursue false statements that destabilize the country. In my opinion.. pofma not abused so far.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 On 6/20/2020 at 9:24 AM, Freeder said: Maybe after this attack , kanna brain trauma.. no wonder he posed incoherent questions at Png until he damn tulan n with the WTF look...😅😅 Really cannot tahan the smirk 😏 aura .... CCS should ask TWM, “whats the point of the question?” sia suey..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Throttle2 said: CCS should ask TWM, “whats the point of the question?” sia suey..... The same guy who waved his hands magically and said about the petrol price don’t rise as fast when the crude oil goes up..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeder Hypersonic June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/us-president-donald-trump-to-suspend-h1b-visas/articleshow/76488022.cms?from=mdr Our side lei? Proof of the puff is in the eating.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Fcw75 said: The same guy who waved his hands magically and said about the petrol price don’t rise as fast when the crude oil goes up..... Oh really? Before reading this last few posts, i have never even heard of his name. Some doctor, right? Working which institution huh? Seems like he is just talking for the sake of keeping his mouth in motion and letting the air pass go in. Did he also kena whack by some drunk or drugged guy recently?very interesting character. Probably one of the weakest links of his party, this doctor usually when we want to win a tournament in secondary, we train very hard but we also have to sacrifice our weakest link. Sacrifice the Lame, i mean lamb. Edited June 21, 2020 by Throttle2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalstrike Turbocharged June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Sosaria said: Actually those politicians with education, training in law and legal profession fare best at "live" performance talking and debating, thinking on their feet. Note that LKY had this background too, thus his ability to connect with the masses and his oratory skills. Those others, engineers, doctors, accountants, who the heck cares how expert they are and how much they make outside, most are terrible at public speaking and EQ. So, better not have any live broadcast You've forgotten another group of which is getting bigger in the parliament. The ex-Generals 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Throttle2 said: Oh really? Before reading this last few posts, i have never even heard of his name. Some doctor, right? Working which institution huh? Seems like he is just talking for the sake of keeping his mouth in motion and letting the air pass go in. Did he also kena whack by some drunk or drugged guy recently?very interesting character. Probably one of the weakest links of his party, this doctor usually when we want to win a tournament in secondary, we train very hard but we also have to sacrifice our weakest link. Sacrifice the Lame, i mean lamb. Yah, kenna whacked too. 😆 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/mp-tan-wu-meng-attacked-man-jailed-meet-the-people-session-10854916 And his famous speech about petrol price: He added that the market determines retail petrol prices. The survey also found that, on average, petrol prices take longer to go up when global crude oil prices increase, compared with the decrease when crude oil prices fall. Doctor in MTI. Hope this is the last time we see him in parliament. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangadrool Supersonic June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Fcw75 said: Not me but from Facebook. Talk ah talk.... Talk so much... Know how to vote anot? On the actual day, sure angrily put a big cross on the box he don't want the party to be ruling. 🤣 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator June 21, 2020 Share June 21, 2020 Here we go again... we seen it before https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/tan-wu-meng-pritam-singh-aflian-shanmugam-12856406?cid=FBcna why never call out tommy koh who said the same? ↡ Advertisement 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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