Cauldron 6th Gear October 12, 2020 Share October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Spring said: Like the UCL, the big clubs want to dominate but I’m on the fence on this as the 25% payment to EFL is a life saver and I suppose the main reason why Rick Parry supports the proposal. Personally, I doubt if this proposal will go thru as it needs 14 members to approve it and I doubt if many more clubs outside the big 6 will support this move as with more voting power to the big 6, they will inevitably ask for more later on ie more TV revenue, more say in how the League is run and I dare say it, possibly even permanent status in the top flight which was what some of the established teams wanted for in UCL. I had posted many times why I support new money being pumped in by Sheikhs, oligarchs etc. My reason was cos then there won’t be a closed party circle of old boys clubs. This move certainly adds value to my thinking as it used to be only a big 3 (Gunners, Pool n United), now it has grown to big 6 (City n Chelsea being pumped up by rich owners) and Spurs who is a good role model for getting into the party without sole backing of a rich owner. My point is if more rich owners with good intentions come in then the big 6 will grow and any idea of domination of a handful of clubs will be history. Just my 2 cents..... EFL is really in a bad shape. If the rich EPL club were to help, it will not come with no strings attached. "The plan calls for the nine clubs with the longest continued presence in the league, which includes the 'big six' to be given "long-term share-holder" status and the ability to make changes with the support of just six of the nine." Morally, the optics are not pretty but i can understand the motivation for big 6 to consolidate their own power base. Actually, it is almost impossible for the big 6 to drop to the lower rung. Therefore can say they will be mainstay. It is the change of (6+6)/18 = 2/3 that is more troubling, meaning the "constitution" can be changed with 2/3 majority, assuming the big 6 toe the party line. Mmm... GRC for football clubs soon? ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic October 12, 2020 Share October 12, 2020 Most european clubs should stop paying ridiculous transfer fee and wages, these two are the main cost for football clubs. Compared to 10 yrs ago, nowadays transfer fee inflated up to 3-4x player value and their wages easily 2x above. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator October 12, 2020 Author Share October 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Thaiyotakamli said: Most european clubs should stop paying ridiculous transfer fee and wages, these two are the main cost for football clubs. Compared to 10 yrs ago, nowadays transfer fee inflated up to 3-4x player value and their wages easily 2x above. In theory, u r right but in practise, it’s all about demand n supply. Limited resources with high demand drives up prices. I don’t think the clubs intentionally go out to pay high wages n tfr fees. It’s exactly like our COE actually. Obviously our car buyers prefer not to pay high COE prices but limited supply means prices get driven up inevitably. That’s how market forces work in any market not only football. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurman Supercharged October 12, 2020 Share October 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Spring said: In theory, u r right but in practise, it’s all about demand n supply. Limited resources with high demand drives up prices. I don’t think the clubs intentionally go out to pay high wages n tfr fees. It’s exactly like our COE actually. Obviously our car buyers prefer not to pay high COE prices but limited supply means prices get driven up inevitably. That’s how market forces work in any market not only football. Ya lor. Though money management is not european forte by any means. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator October 13, 2020 Author Share October 13, 2020 More articles on the “project management” proposal by the big 6. As more info comes to light, quite obvious it’s a power grab by the big clubs. As such, most columnists are damning the proposals n accusing the big teams of being greedy. https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/4206723/project-big-picture-is-an-attempted-power-grab-by-liverpoolman-united-and-premier-leagues-elite https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8829033/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Liverpool-Man-Uniteds-Project-Big-Picture-disgusting-Big-Six-power-grab.html 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic October 13, 2020 Share October 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Spring said: More articles on the “project management” proposal by the big 6. As more info comes to light, quite obvious it’s a power grab by the big clubs. As such, most columnists are damning the proposals n accusing the big teams of being greedy. https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/4206723/project-big-picture-is-an-attempted-power-grab-by-liverpoolman-united-and-premier-leagues-elite https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8829033/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Liverpool-Man-Uniteds-Project-Big-Picture-disgusting-Big-Six-power-grab.html its a very 卑鄙 despicable act. alot of smaller clubs are hanging by the thread, this proposal is like killing the goose for the eggs, they give large sum of money now, but need transfer power. once this happen the fate of the rest of the big 6 no longer in their own hand.. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator October 13, 2020 Author Share October 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Beregond said: its a very 卑鄙 despicable act. alot of smaller clubs are hanging by the thread, this proposal is like killing the goose for the eggs, they give large sum of money now, but need transfer power. once this happen the fate of the rest of the big 6 no longer in their own hand.. Like bro @Cauldron says, no free lunch by the big boys. Funds given with strings attached. That’s why I always warn against the old boys club closed door party which has been proven time and again to be selfish. All this talk on oligarchs n sheikhs with their dirty money tainting the game is hypocritical frankly n just to protect their own interests as the original big 3 has now been expanded. At the risk of being slated by fans of the big clubs esp Liverpool n Man United, the clubs concerned just want to make sure there wont be a Leicester winning the EPL anymore n also no more expansion of big 6. Just want the title to be fought by a few clubs n I dare say, after that, they will try to make the big 6 to be big 5, 4 etc. Spurs the next most vulnerable club in my opinion. I on the other hand hope there will be more gate crashes with Everton n Leicester the more likely candidates n if Newcastle get a passionate owner, they will also likely be able to challenge the big 6. By the way, the 3 clubs which were deemed the longest serving clubs other than the big 6 thereby forming the 9 clubs with the most voting rights were Everton, West Ham and Southampton. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurman Supercharged October 13, 2020 Share October 13, 2020 Theres 2nd wave of COVID in UK. Theres a chance the EPL or BPL whatever damn name its called now, might be shut again. Its a real problem. Italy, France, etc not spared. The finances might be hurting again soon and I fear this might be the time these clubs wake up to reality. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic October 13, 2020 Share October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Spurman said: Theres 2nd wave of COVID in UK. Theres a chance the EPL or BPL whatever damn name its called now, might be shut again. Its a real problem. Italy, France, etc not spared. The finances might be hurting again soon and I fear this might be the time these clubs wake up to reality. ya. eu is having a 2nd or 3rd outbreak. and the virus is even harder to kill in winter. as much as i dread it, i think epl got high chance to shut down again . u see those ppl at the by line and stand u know their pattern already , no 1 bother with mask 1. must less about other preventive action... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic October 17, 2020 Share October 17, 2020 exciting first 1/2 between everton and pools. pickford best contribution is getting virgil out 😅 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic October 18, 2020 Share October 18, 2020 West Ham bubble burst. The secret was DM hide himself with Covid and not at the match then West Ham can win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic October 19, 2020 Share October 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Jamesc said: West Ham bubble burst. The secret was DM hide himself with Covid and not at the match then West Ham can win. haiz. i dun want take about epl this week......... think i gonna stop watching chelsea till lampa get the boot. watch leeds enough . i prefer him playing for chelsea anytime, but not managing pls.............. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic October 19, 2020 Share October 19, 2020 Wah that Bale is so good. He comes on and 3 goals are scored By the opposition. I think all the managers will hope Bale plays more often. Bale what an impact player. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersaylee Supersonic October 19, 2020 Share October 19, 2020 If AV can beat any three of these four -MC, Everton, Spurs, Gunners, Blues - got chance to challenge top 6 liao 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic October 19, 2020 Share October 19, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, mersaylee said: If AV can beat any three of these four -MC, Everton, Spurs, Gunners, Blues - got chance to challenge top 6 liao i give av a top 10 at best this season. but i give everton a real bet, they gonna be fighting for top 4 till the end. even fighting for the title. chelsea pool man u man c , all got problem this season. everton without ucl distraction, and keep their player inj free. they gonna be up there somewhere end of season. their manager is not some new bird.... (i still remember carlos ancelotti screamer goal against real, when ac wack real 5-0 )😁 Edited October 19, 2020 by Beregond 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic October 19, 2020 Share October 19, 2020 Alya... Saw Ham 3 goals down and went to Zzzz.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic October 21, 2020 Share October 21, 2020 See lah. Neymar cannot score Kylian Mbappé cannot score But Bruno Fernandes can score. Marcus Rashford can score. Even Anthony Martial can score. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic October 24, 2020 Share October 24, 2020 Goodbye Arsenal Mascot Gunnersaurus He kenna tio pok. Arsenal have got rid of Gunnersaurus in a 'cost cutting' exercise. They got rid of the wrong dinosaurus lah. The got rid of the one on the left when they should have pok the other one. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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