SGCMmadman 6th Gear June 17, 2021 Share June 17, 2021 My 2 cents is tat as singaporeans... its either u r 1 of us, or against us. U wan to be a spy or terrorists against singapore.. charge dem in court, trial den hang dem. U J.I. or ISIS or chinas or whoever spy... mus kana hang ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic June 17, 2021 Share June 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Singa said: The article is based on an interview/article in CCP mouthpiece globaltimes. Not saying George Yeo is wrong, but the opinion has to be palatable to CCP to make it into globaltimes. Doesnt matters this article is meant to show diff perspective of view 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic June 17, 2021 Share June 17, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, DOBIEMKZ said: Maybe China wants to know what weapons we wish to buy so that they can offer good prices to undercut Western products. LOL! J-20 fighters planes Edited June 17, 2021 by Picnic06-Biante15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOBIEMKZ Turbocharged June 17, 2021 Share June 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, Picnic06-Biante15 said: J-20 fighters planes Not battle-proven yet. 3 for S$10mil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didu Supercharged June 17, 2021 Share June 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Singa said: The article is based on an interview/article in CCP mouthpiece globaltimes. Not saying George Yeo is wrong, but the opinion has to be palatable to CCP to make it into globaltimes. This guy is sounding more and more like Kishore Mahbubani. 😁 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrosszero Turbocharged June 17, 2021 Share June 17, 2021 Knowledge is everything. On D-Day, the general in charge of defence, Erwin Rommel was away in Germany to celebrate his wife's birthday. Hitler was asleep, so his Panzer divisions couldn't be moved to respond to the unexpected landing zone. One can not be so naive to think that it is all about stats about weapon systems or military ability. Even mundane things like strategic stockpiles of rice, water and sand would be significant when it comes to a negotiation. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged June 17, 2021 Share June 17, 2021 Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. More importantly, are the opinions shared facture and reasonable? Examples quoted were evident from history records or simply assumptions. Between will but has never happen and the history we witnessed is quite different. My opinion only lah. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey2011 5th Gear June 18, 2021 Share June 18, 2021 (edited) On 6/17/2021 at 12:26 AM, Thaiyotakamli said: From George Yeo https://mothership.sg/2021/06/george-yeo-global-times-interview/?fbclid=IwAR3tN5rG4aKUuj3Hl6PMNNzfjxSTajR_39xujDeGu3Mhn4e8GJyiLjUt4Ts “U.S.-style democracy not suitable for Asian countries” No sure if they expect your democracy to be the same like them to be their allies....Europe democracy not 100% the same. Comparing Democratic Distress in the United States and Europe https://carnegieendowment.org/2018/06/21/comparing-democratic-distress-in-united-states-and-europe-pub-76646 Edited June 18, 2021 by Odyssey2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic June 18, 2021 Share June 18, 2021 13 hours ago, DOBIEMKZ said: Not battle-proven yet. 3 for S$10mil. Buy 3 free 1 ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOBIEMKZ Turbocharged June 18, 2021 Share June 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, Picnic06-Biante15 said: Buy 3 free 1 ..... You mean buy 3 aeroplanes and get 1 free missile ?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinyl 5th Gear June 18, 2021 Share June 18, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Didu said: This guy is sounding more and more like Kishore Mahbubani. 😁 We are talking about George Yeo, ex-Foreign Minister and Kishore, a career diplomat, but I'm sure people on this forum knows more about geopolitics than them right? This is why I'm here to learn from you guys, not so much on shitposting but on geopolitics. Edited June 18, 2021 by Vinyl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged June 18, 2021 Share June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Odyssey2011 said: “U.S.-style democracy not suitable for Asian countries” No sure if they expect your democracy to be the same like them to be their allies....Europe democracy not 100% the same. Comparing Democratic Distress in the United States and Europe https://carnegieendowment.org/2018/06/21/comparing-democratic-distress-in-united-states-and-europe-pub-76646 USA say must have right to own gun. I am sure MCF members won't want this to happen in Singapore. So we are not democracy, no human right? Haha 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolicense Turbocharged June 18, 2021 Share June 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, Vinyl said: We are talking about George Yeo, ex-Foreign Minister and Kishore, a career diplomat, but I'm sure people on this forum knows more about geopolitics than them right? This is why I'm here to learn from you guys, not so much on shitposting but on geopolitics. lol.. got to listen to these gurus more to learn geopolitics than from some forum right? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic June 18, 2021 Share June 18, 2021 12 hours ago, Macrosszero said: Knowledge is everything. On D-Day, the general in charge of defence, Erwin Rommel was away in Germany to celebrate his wife's birthday. Hitler was asleep, so his Panzer divisions couldn't be moved to respond to the unexpected landing zone. One can not be so naive to think that it is all about stats about weapon systems or military ability. Even mundane things like strategic stockpiles of rice, water and sand would be significant when it comes to a negotiation. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinyl 5th Gear June 18, 2021 Share June 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, Nolicense said: lol.. got to listen to these gurus more to learn geopolitics than from some forum right? When George Yeo or Kishore speaks, if it isn't factual I would expect people from this forum to dispute it. Anyone is free to present their argument. Instead, we get something along this line "Pro-China guys getting paid for saying nice stuff to their audience." That means it isn't so much about the content being factual or not, but something they don't like to hear/see. If it's something they don't like, it's labelled Pro-China. If it's hawkish tone towards China, then it's labelled #onlyfactsnolie. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez911 Supersonic June 18, 2021 Share June 18, 2021 I'm going to pay for a kid to spy on NTUC Fairprice at Parkway Parade so next time I can buy eggs and bananas cheaper there. Knowledge is king. I'm also going to deploy another spy at Hourglass taka store so that I can buy my watch cheaper because I will know their inventory level of patek. Knowledge is $$$. Lastly I will deploy my last spy at my fav sushi place so that I don't need to pay so much for my omakase. Knowledge is forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic June 18, 2021 Share June 18, 2021 53 minutes ago, Vinyl said: When George Yeo or Kishore speaks, if it isn't factual I would expect people from this forum to dispute it. Anyone is free to present their argument. Instead, we get something along this line "Pro-China guys getting paid for saying nice stuff to their audience." That means it isn't so much about the content being factual or not, but something they don't like to hear/see. If it's something they don't like, it's labelled Pro-China. If it's hawkish tone towards China, then it's labelled #onlyfactsnolie. geopolitical discussion must be without bias and must be objective. if not it will be easily seem as having a hidden agenda and serve no purpose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey2011 5th Gear June 18, 2021 Share June 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Victor68 said: USA say must have right to own gun. I am sure MCF members won't want this to happen in Singapore. So we are not democracy, no human right? Haha Systems are broken because they exist to sustain themselves, and the people who run the system rely on the system to stay the same. Why should they change it up? It works well for them. The simple answer is that the system will change when people change. As people adapt to something different, as the popular mood shifts, as we move on from old ways of thinking—that’s when change comes about. You are still responsible for your democracy system. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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