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COVID-19 vaccination: Why some seniors are holding back, and how a little nudge can help

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Some are grappling with pre-existing medical conditions, while others prefer to ‘wait and see’. Experts suggest ways to get more seniors to be vaccinated without the hard sell.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/cnainsider/covid-19-vaccination-why-some-seniors-singapore-are-holding-back-14980008

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50 minutes ago, Blueray said:

COVID-19 vaccination: Why some seniors are holding back, and how a little nudge can help

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/cnainsider/covid-19-vaccination-why-some-seniors-singapore-are-holding-back-14980008

this line of thinking by some seniors is odd imho ..

wait and see - it has been months since vaccination started in singapore, and something like 4.6 million doses of vaccination have already been administered (figure should be plus or minus in that vicinity, as it changes everyday) .. even if the most skeptical person wishes to attribute adverse effects and deaths to vaccination, how many percent (or fraction of a percent) will it be vs the number of vaccination doses administered so far?

risk adverse - so if one is risk adverse in not taking a vaccination (for which the risk assessment can actually and factually be done based on the number of months and number of doses done already) is it then not the opposite of being risk adverse by opting not to take the vaccination but instead taking a risk to be infected by the virus in our everyday lives? is the risk of getting an adverse effect/death higher or lower than the risk of infection?

seniors also say they are being more careful .. this certainly does help - basic social distancing, wearing masks etc, but again these are not fool-proof ..

just my rambling thoughts, no offence to anyone ..

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42 minutes ago, Mooose said:

this line of thinking by some seniors is odd imho ..

wait and see - it has been months since vaccination started in singapore, and something like 4.6 million doses of vaccination have already been administered (figure should be plus or minus in that vicinity, as it changes everyday) .. even if the most skeptical person wishes to attribute adverse effects and deaths to vaccination, how many percent (or fraction of a percent) will it be vs the number of vaccination doses administered so far?

risk adverse - so if one is risk adverse in not taking a vaccination (for which the risk assessment can actually and factually be done based on the number of months and number of doses done already) is it then not the opposite of being risk adverse by opting not to take the vaccination but instead taking a risk to be infected by the virus in our everyday lives? is the risk of getting an adverse effect/death higher or lower than the risk of infection?

seniors also say they are being more careful .. this certainly does help - basic social distancing, wearing masks etc, but again these are not fool-proof ..

just my rambling thoughts, no offence to anyone ..

Because nobody want to be in that minor percentage of adverse effect/death. Worse thing is if one do die after taking the vaccine, they said it’s not related. They said it’s due to underlying conditions.

Toto is a different thing though, everyone want to be in that percentage. 😁

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4 minutes ago, Fcw75 said:

Because nobody want to be in that percentage of adverse effect/death. 

Toto is a different thing though. 😁

of cos diff. pple believe they till tio toto, but dun believe they will tio covid

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3 hours ago, Mooose said:

this line of thinking by some seniors is odd imho ..

wait and see - it has been months since vaccination started in singapore, and something like 4.6 million doses of vaccination have already been administered (figure should be plus or minus in that vicinity, as it changes everyday) .. even if the most skeptical person wishes to attribute adverse effects and deaths to vaccination, how many percent (or fraction of a percent) will it be vs the number of vaccination doses administered so far?

 

Old folks only see absolute numbers. Every now and then, someone dies of cardiac arrrest or stroke a fews days after vaccination seems like alot to them.

 

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On 6/22/2021 at 11:20 AM, Mooose said:

this line of thinking by some seniors is odd imho ..

wait and see - it has been months since vaccination started in singapore, and something like 4.6 million doses of vaccination have already been administered (figure should be plus or minus in that vicinity, as it changes everyday) .. even if the most skeptical person wishes to attribute adverse effects and deaths to vaccination, how many percent (or fraction of a percent) will it be vs the number of vaccination doses administered so far?

risk adverse - so if one is risk adverse in not taking a vaccination (for which the risk assessment can actually and factually be done based on the number of months and number of doses done already) is it then not the opposite of being risk adverse by opting not to take the vaccination but instead taking a risk to be infected by the virus in our everyday lives? is the risk of getting an adverse effect/death higher or lower than the risk of infection?

seniors also say they are being more careful .. this certainly does help - basic social distancing, wearing masks etc, but again these are not fool-proof ..

just my rambling thoughts, no offence to anyone ..

Old folks practicing

"my body my choice". 😄

 

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1 hour ago, Kopites said:

Old folks practicing

"my body my choice". 😄

 

haha except this is not just them alone in isolation so to speak i suppose, people/family they stay with, or come into contact with - kopi friends etc - are all at risk ..

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Here's why you should get vaccinated.

 

Coronavirus outbreak killed two at Florida office, official says; a vaccinated employee was not infected

A coronavirus outbreak at a Florida government building killed two people and hospitalized several others who were unvaccinated against the virus, a county official said.

The Manatee County Administration Building reopened Monday after the virus that causes covid-19 spread throughout the county's IT department and forced the building to shut down last Friday. Manatee County Administrator Scott Hopes, an epidemiologist, said six unvaccinated employees, including five in the IT department, tested positive for the virus within a two-week period.

The two IT employees who died last week were identified in local media and obituaries as Mary Knight, 58, and Alphonso Cox, 53.

Hopes said that the one IT employee, 23, exposed to the virus who was vaccinated did not get infected.

"This particular outbreak demonstrates the effectiveness, I believe, with the vaccine," he said to reporters Monday. "All of the cases were non-vaccinated." He added in a news release, "Individual employees in the IT Department who were known to be fully vaccinated and who were in close proximity of those who were infected did not contract covid-19."

Despite the outbreak, masks will remain optional for staffers returning this week, with unvaccinated workers being "encouraged but not required, to follow covid-19 prevention measures."

At a news conference, Hopes said he suspected the outbreak could have been because of the delta coronavirus variant, which spreads more easily. The Manatee County Health Department is working with epidemiologists in contact tracing and to confirm whether the variant was responsible. Hopes said that the high fatality rate from the IT department's outbreak suggested "we are dealing with a variant unlike what we had last year."

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23 minutes ago, Ender said:

 

Singapore sign agreement with Novavax liao. At least we will have a alternative to mRNA vaccine. This is still on p3 trial. 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/spore-may-get-non-mrna-novavax-covid-19-vaccine-before-year-end

interesting...

by then most of the population will be vaccinated. guess will be same distribution channel as Sinovac. 

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5 minutes ago, Blueray said:

interesting...

by then most of the population will be vaccinated. guess will be same distribution channel as Sinovac. 

For parents who children coming to 12 next year and uncomfortable with mRNA unknown long term effects. This might be the one to look out for. But currently no trial of children yet, so may not be so soon for children.  

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2 hours ago, Blueray said:

interesting...

by then most of the population will be vaccinated. guess will be same distribution channel as Sinovac. 

This Novavax should be under the National Vaccination Program.

 

NON -MRNA VACCINES

The Health Min ister also announced that Singapore signed an advance purchase agreement with Novavax in January.

“On the non-mRNA vaccines, MOH has been looking out for vaccines that are of good quality, safe and effective to be part of our national vaccination programme,” said Mr Ong.

There have been “encouraging results” from the Novavax clinical trials, but the shipment “will not be ready so soon” as it is still undergoing clinical trials.

“We are working closely with Novavax and are awaiting their application for regulatory approval. We hope the vaccine supplies can arrive before the end of the year for those who want to take something that is non-mRNA,” he added.

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J&J Covid-19 vaccine lasts at least 8 months, protects against Delta variant, studies find

(CNN)The Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine provides immunity that lasts at least eight months, and it appears to provide adequate protection against the worrying Delta variant, the company said in a statement Thursday night.

"Current data for the eight months studied so far show that the single-shot Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine generates a strong neutralizing antibody response that does not wane; rather, we observe an improvement over time," Dr. Mathai Mammen, head of research and development at J&J's Janssen vaccine arm, said in a statement.

The company said one dose of the vaccine elicits both a lasting antibody response and generates immune cells called T-cells that last eight months, also.

 

  • J&J another good vaccine, not available here currently
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On 6/22/2021 at 11:20 AM, Mooose said:

this line of thinking by some seniors is odd imho ..

wait and see - it has been months since vaccination started in singapore, and something like 4.6 million doses of vaccination have already been administered (figure should be plus or minus in that vicinity, as it changes everyday) .. even if the most skeptical person wishes to attribute adverse effects and deaths to vaccination, how many percent (or fraction of a percent) will it be vs the number of vaccination doses administered so far?

risk adverse - so if one is risk adverse in not taking a vaccination (for which the risk assessment can actually and factually be done based on the number of months and number of doses done already) is it then not the opposite of being risk adverse by opting not to take the vaccination but instead taking a risk to be infected by the virus in our everyday lives? is the risk of getting an adverse effect/death higher or lower than the risk of infection?

 

You cannot blame how  old people think....their risk level is different from the younger folks.

 

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