kobayashiGT Internal Moderator October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 First 10 electric double-decker buses hit the roads in Singapore source: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/first-10-electric-double-decker-buses-hit-the-roads-in-spore Quieter, greener vehicles part of plan for all public buses to run on cleaner energy by 2040 Singapore has taken another step in its move to reduce the carbon footprint of public transport, with the deployment of the first 10 fully-electric double-decker buses yesterday. The buses will ply the roads on service 983 in Choa Chu Kang, service 189 in Bukit Batok and Clementi, and service 83 in Punggol and Sengkang, and may be redeployed to other bus routes later. The vehicles, supplied by the Chinese Yutong-Nari consortium, are said to be more environmentally friendly, quieter and more user-friendly than conventional buses that run on diesel. However, the new buses cost up to twice that of conventional diesel buses. The Land Transport Authority (LTA) said it hopes the cost will come down over time with changes in technology and wider adoption. At a formal unveiling of the buses yesterday, Senior Minister of State for Transport Chee Hong Tat said Singapore remains open to new technology and is "not in a rush" to commit to anyone technology or model. "We are doing it because it is better for the environment and this is an initial step to a greener future. We will have more options to choose from when technology progresses," he said. He added that there was no fixed sum that the Government had allocated to replace conventional diesel buses. "What we have done instead is to set ourselves a goal by 2040," he said. The plan is to have all of Singapore's 5,800 public buses run on cleaner energy by 2040. The 10 buses join 15 electric single-decker buses that have already been deployed between April and July. Quote I still think hybrid bus like diesel electric / petrol electric will be a more feasible transport plan. With electric bus, you need like 2-3 bus standby to rotate on the same routes. But with a hybrid, I think it can cover more distance and save on interchange space. (for charging) End of the day, with electric bus, will the bus fare be cheaper? 😅 ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 EV public buses? The bus can last to run the whole day meh? Since one full charge can last between 200km to 300km?! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator October 29, 2020 Author Share October 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, 13177 said: EV public buses? The bus can last to run the whole day meh? Since one full charge can last between 200km to 300km?! Ya lor. I don't think it is wise. our country so hot. the battery sure gone very fast one. Unless they can do a solar electric bus. No need charging. can just keep going. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, kobayashiGT said: Ya lor. I don't think it is wise. our country so hot. the battery sure gone very fast one. Unless they can do a solar electric bus. No need charging. can just keep going. Still in trial period. Thats why they buy only a small number to try out first. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 22 minutes ago, kobayashiGT said: Ya lor. I don't think it is wise. our country so hot. the battery sure gone very fast one. Unless they can do a solar electric bus. No need charging. can just keep going. But dont know if the ride is better in an EV bus than diesel bus? Maybe find one day go take this EV bus?! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 I think the EV bus should be nicer than the diesels, at least it will be quieter and cooler for the passengers at the rear. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 48 minutes ago, kobayashiGT said: Ya lor. I don't think it is wise. our country so hot. the battery sure gone very fast one. Unless they can do a solar electric bus. No need charging. can just keep going. Not sure if current solar panels have reached that level of efficiency to power the vehicle directly yet. But either way, it can still prolong the distance travelled per charge, perhaps this might be the answer to extending the range of an EV and making it cheaper at the same time (smaller battery). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator October 29, 2020 Author Share October 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, 13177 said: But dont know if the ride is better in an EV bus than diesel bus? Maybe find one day go take this EV bus?! More torque also! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, Rickster said: I think the EV bus should be nicer than the diesels, at least it will be quieter and cooler for the passengers at the rear. Actually those newer diesel bus also quite quiet and aircon all the times feel like freezer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, 13177 said: Actually those newer diesel bus also quite quiet and aircon all the times feel like freezer. I see, good to know there is improvement going along for the diesels as well. Hopefully the electric buses won't sound like the Blue SG cars. Don't know why is there such a loud humming sound coming from them. It makes diesel cars sound so much more soothing in comparison 🤣 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, 13177 said: EV public buses? The bus can last to run the whole day meh? Since one full charge can last between 200km to 300km?! 1 hour ago, kobayashiGT said: Ya lor. I don't think it is wise. our country so hot. the battery sure gone very fast one. Unless they can do a solar electric bus. No need charging. can just keep going. Whenever the bus go back interchange, charge it lo. This kind of EV usually runs on 800v similar to Taycan. Likely can do a 100kwh charging. It means that every trip can start with full battery. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator October 29, 2020 Author Share October 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, inlinesix said: Whenever the bus go back interchange, charge it lo. This kind of EV usually runs on 800v similar to Taycan. Likely can do a 100kwh charging. It means that every trip can start with full battery. They better start to stand by all these equipments for electric fire. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, Rickster said: I see, good to know there is improvement going along for the diesels as well. Hopefully the electric buses won't sound like the Blue SG cars. Don't know why is there such a loud humming sound coming from them. It makes diesel cars sound so much more soothing in comparison 🤣 You take those MAN A22/A95 buses, bus not very noisy and aircon super cold. Lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, inlinesix said: Whenever the bus go back interchange, charge it lo. This kind of EV usually runs on 800v similar to Taycan. Likely can do a 100kwh charging. It means that every trip can start with full battery. But buses go back interchange the stopping time is quite short, enough time to charge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 Just now, kobayashiGT said: They better start to stand by all these equipments for electric fire. That's why Taycan use 800v rather 400v (Tesla). With higher voltage, charging can be completed at a lower amp (current). Lower current = lower temperature. Lower temperature = lower fire risk. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, 13177 said: But buses go back interchange the stopping time is quite short, enough time to charge? Why not? Smelly smelly also got 30 mins right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysc3 Twincharged October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 2 hours ago, 13177 said: But dont know if the ride is better in an EV bus than diesel bus? Maybe find one day go take this EV bus?! Haha! Beat you to it.... Took the single deck electric busses in hainan two years back... But their busses, the size about 3/4 of our regular bus. Best part is only pay 4cents RMB if paying by cashless. But we did not have account so paid cash... RMB $2 instead. Don't know if it was a promo or not? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinceng Turbocharged October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 They can do anything they want, just don't pass on the cost to the end consumer via increase in bus fares. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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