Beregond Supersonic February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Jellandross said: Smart play of words. JTC is responsible but didn't say accountable. ya. really smart in their words. they put the blame on the whole JTC. So can sack the whole JTC? cannot right? overall blame on JTC mean the blame is on the JTC chief?? he shall step down?? or in the end no indv is punish?? we shall see. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Beregond said: ya. really smart in their words. they put the blame on the whole JTC. So can sack the whole JTC? cannot right? overall blame on JTC mean the blame is on the JTC chief?? he shall step down?? or in the end no indv is punish?? we shall see. JTC is the project owner. Should it be responsible for that? JTC CE should step down honourably. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklim Supercharged February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Jellandross said: Smart play of words. JTC is responsible but didn't say accountable. The LKY navy blue jacket from Shanghai tailor still in fashion? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 30 minutes ago, mikk123 said: big mistake at this level signals a bigger problem at corporate level. It tells a story of a corporation that is too big to manage. The top management has no clue of what is going on at ground level. The ones that are close to ground are just killing time everyday and collecting their pays at end of the month, no one takes responsibility. They are fully aware of the loopholes, but why brother? A lot of long serving senior staff spending 20% of their time work and 80% playing politics and ensure the junior staff don't perform too well and becoming a threat to them. It is a cancerous culture that is spreading in some long established big organizations. If you look around at those long established organization, most of the them are in this category. You shouldn't be surprised if there is a systematic wrong breast cancer diagnosis at our public hospital, working on the wrong site for half a year... more to surface in the future. Not surprisingly that the top management in such organisation has no clue of what is going on at the ground level. I guess even the so called director level also has no clue. So if those manager and senior staff jiak liao bee, dont think anyone would check on their job lo. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanCoe Hypersonic February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 55 minutes ago, 13177 said: Not surprisingly that the top management in such organisation has no clue of what is going on at the ground level. I guess even the so called director level also has no clue. So if those manager and senior staff jiak liao bee, dont think anyone would check on their job lo. Top mgt have always been in the air not " in touch" with ground reality ....... boh eng mah ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellandross Supersonic February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, inlinesix said: JTC is the project owner. Should it be responsible for that? JTC CE should step down honourably. Edited February 23, 2021 by Jellandross Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 very simple mah ... 1. JTC gave wrong instruction or 2. contractor proceeded without JTC instruction. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanCoe Hypersonic February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Blueray said: very simple mah ... 1. JTC gave wrong instruction or 2. contractor proceeded without JTC instruction. Now mudslinging will start if no one accepts the blame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpsexx 6th Gear February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, BanCoe said: Now mudslinging will start if no one accepts the blame Contractor will take the shit (literally) if they know what's good for them.. just "fire" the PM and some supervisors and the public will be appeased.. then rehire these same people under a subsidiary co and same pay, for taking the hit for the co and JTC... JTC head honchos got their pound of flesh, cotton chan seen to do effective govt oversight, the co will continue to get future lucrative contracts, and the fall guys still get their pay, and the public will be ignorantly and blisfully "happy" with the demanded results.. end of the day, all happy family once again... 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didu Supercharged February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 7 hours ago, Blueray said: very simple mah ... 1. JTC gave wrong instruction or 2. contractor proceeded without JTC instruction. or 3. Blame it on Covid CB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez911 Supersonic February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 Not JTC or contractor fault lah. It's WP's fault for not asking probing question in parliament. It's always WP's fault. The buck stops at WP. Ok I did it. Where is my $1? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic February 23, 2021 Share February 23, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Weez911 said: Not JTC or contractor fault lah. It's WP's fault for not asking probing question in parliament. It's always WP's fault. The buck stops at WP. Ok I did it. Where is my $1? Edited February 23, 2021 by inlinesix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklim Supercharged February 24, 2021 Share February 24, 2021 (edited) https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/how-the-unauthorised-clearing-of-kranji-woodland-happened Kranji woodland cleared by mistake: How it happenedJan 13, 2021 (CNY Day 2): JTC's project manager discovers the further clearing and immediately suspends all work. About 13ha of vegetated land remains. JTC begins internal investigations. Really? Project manager wasn't alerted to it by Brice Li and other nature lovers (https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k9a4x/how-did-singapore-clear-a-giant-forest-reserve-by-mistake)? Whitewashing start liao? Edited February 24, 2021 by Kklim 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic February 24, 2021 Share February 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Kklim said: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/how-the-unauthorised-clearing-of-kranji-woodland-happened Kranji woodland cleared by mistake: How it happenedJan 13, 2021 (CNY Day 2): JTC's project manager discovers the further clearing and immediately suspends all work. About 13ha of vegetated land remains. JTC begins internal investigations. Really? Project manager wasn't alerted to it by Brice Li and other nature lovers (https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k9a4x/how-did-singapore-clear-a-giant-forest-reserve-by-mistake)? Whitewashing start liao? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic February 24, 2021 Share February 24, 2021 Visitors to Clementi, Dover forests should be mindful of trees prone to falling: SLA, NParks Quote SINGAPORE: People visiting wooded areas in places like Clementi and Ulu Pandan should be mindful of dangers such as trees that are prone to falling, the Singapore Land Authority (SLA) and National Parks Board (NParks) said on Wednesday (Feb 24). https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/clementi-ulu-pandan-dover-forests-trees-branches-sla-nparks-14271468 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator February 24, 2021 Share February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Blueray said: Visitors to Clementi, Dover forests should be mindful of trees prone to falling: SLA, NParks https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/clementi-ulu-pandan-dover-forests-trees-branches-sla-nparks-14271468 So are they hinting that by clearing the forest, they are protecting the general public from falling trees and we should be thankful for their kind gesture?! 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic February 24, 2021 Share February 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Carbon82 said: So are they hinting that by clearing the forest, they are protecting the general public from falling trees and we should be thankful for their kind gesture?! i see it as if one chooses to go Clementi or Dover, and tree fall on them, then its "I told you so" ... waiting for LTA to issue similar statement on falling lampposts. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic February 25, 2021 Share February 25, 2021 Put up disclaimer first. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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