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Turbocharged
21 minutes ago, Wt_know said:

finally, taking MCF advice? lol

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They use "risk-based approach" so slowly slowly mah ...

Basically, situation now is such that no matter how you try to tweak the risk calculation, still fails.

Work pass holders can still come in from PRC - which is among the list of countries not in the high-risk category.

All our ASEAN neighbours are in that "high-risk" list, unfortunately.

So looks like whatever FW needed in near future will have to be sourced from PRC.

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Hypersonic
21 minutes ago, Sosaria said:

They use "risk-based approach" so slowly slowly mah ...

Basically, situation now is such that no matter how you try to tweak the risk calculation, still fails.

Work pass holders can still come in from PRC - which is among the list of countries not in the high-risk category.

All our ASEAN neighbours are in that "high-risk" list, unfortunately.

So looks like whatever FW needed in near future will have to be sourced from PRC.

Those work pass workers as construction paid are no more attractive for china worker. Don't think is easy attract from China. 

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Hypersonic
10 hours ago, Beregond said:

this is the 1.

 

Just send him to the Dom...

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Supersonic (edited)
1 hour ago, Wt_know said:

finally, taking MCF advice? lol

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Maybe they started consulting professionals who really know what is risk-based approach. That header tells me they know what is RBA now.

Again it looks very bad on the IB here. Sibei xia suay. 

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Supersonic (edited)
11 minutes ago, Weez911 said:

Maybe they started consulting professionals who really know what is risk-based approach. That header tells me they know what is RBA now.

Again it looks very bad on the IB here. Sibei xia suay. 

yalor ... stopping people coming from high risk is "RBA" and not xeno ...

once high risk come down to low risk plus RBA then can always re-import again ma

study so much with PHD cannot understand simple logic meh?

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Supersonic (edited)
25 minutes ago, Wt_know said:

yalor ... stopping people coming from high risk is "RBA" and not xeno ...

once high risk come down to low risk plus RBA then can always re-import again ma

study so much with PHD cannot understand simple logic meh?

What to do? They are paid to post silly and illogical stuff in forums and social media. Or maybe they are just that.

Wish I can meet them face to face to understand why they chose such a pathetic career choice. Is it because they can't find other jobs or is it because this job pays very well. 

Must meet face to face cos everything they said online about themselves are fake.

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Turbocharged (edited)
2 hours ago, Tohto said:

Those work pass workers as construction paid are no more attractive for china worker. Don't think is easy attract from China. 

I think so too. Last time, long ago, the pay could attract malaysian and thai workers. Then slowly, as construction industry keep cutting costs, these workers also don't want to come here for such meagre salary. Next up is PRC, but gradually as they become more skilled and have more expertise, they will only want to come over for higher paying jobs in construction, not those FW-level kind of duties. Now those PRC that come here on work pass have many other options for jobs, in manufacturing sector or logistics sector, salary is better and working conditions too.

Now using bangla and india workers, already bargain basement level salary. Which country next? Like it or not, this model of relying on low-cost labour cannot last forever. If, say, India, had modernized and developed at the pace of PRC, then where else to look for construction FW?

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Turbocharged
2 hours ago, Didu said:

7 new community COVID-19 cases in Singapore, including 3 workers at Changi Airport

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-new-cases-imported-community-moh-may-8-14767528

Below are the locations marked out for a view of the spread

 

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The VJC student not necessarily stay at marine parade or got infected at marine parade lah. He or she just happens to go to school there.

Anyway doesn't take genius to see where all the infections stem from - now the tap is closed hopefully things get better and not too late.

Yishun still the safest place! [laugh]

 

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Hypersonic
16 minutes ago, Sosaria said:

I think so too. Last time, long ago, the pay could attract malaysian and thai workers. Then slowly, as construction industry keep cutting costs, these workers also don't want to come here for such meagre salary. Next up is PRC, but gradually as they become more skilled and have more expertise, they will only want to come over for higher paying jobs in construction, not those FW-level kind of duties. Now those PRC that come here on work pass have many other options for jobs, in manufacturing sector or logistics sector, salary is better and working conditions too.

Now using bangla and india workers, already bargain basement level salary. Which country next? Like it or not, this model of relying on low-cost labour cannot last forever. If, say, India, had modernized and developed at the pace of PRC, then where else to look for construction FW?

Africa..

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24 minutes ago, Sosaria said:

I think so too. Last time, long ago, the pay could attract malaysian and thai workers. Then slowly, as construction industry keep cutting costs, these workers also don't want to come here for such meagre salary. Next up is PRC, but gradually as they become more skilled and have more expertise, they will only want to come over for higher paying jobs in construction, not those FW-level kind of duties. Now those PRC that come here on work pass have many other options for jobs, in manufacturing sector or logistics sector, salary is better and working conditions too.

Now using bangla and india workers, already bargain basement level salary. Which country next? Like it or not, this model of relying on low-cost labour cannot last forever. If, say, India, had modernized and developed at the pace of PRC, then where else to look for construction FW?

i concur. 

as long as sg keep pushing up real estate prices, and sg keep taking on heavy loans for multi decades, and property developers keep making their money, this cycle will continue.

if real estate prices fall, or stagnant, the whole value chain is not sustainable. they just dont realise that 3 to 4 bangla are doing the work of 1 Malaysian/PRC.

worse, i notice quality of work is falling over the years. its not particularly due to bangla.. it is just the skilled ones after working here for a few years dont come back and you get new unskilled workers.

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Hypersonic (edited)

I was watching channel 8 news last night. 

A boss was lamenting that it’s very very hard to get foreign workers now and if employ locals, need to pay at least 20% more and with incentives.

I was thinking ahborthen?? All these years of over relIance on foreigners and suppressing local wages not enuff ah?

F&B, cleaners wages have been suppressed long enuff. I do F&B part time now so I know.

This Covid will wake up a lot of bosses.

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Supersonic (edited)
1 hour ago, Sosaria said:

Now using bangla and india workers, already bargain basement level salary. Which country next? Like it or not, this model of relying on low-cost labour cannot last forever. If, say, India, had modernized and developed at the pace of PRC, then where else to look for construction FW?

yes bro ... before Covid may be another 25 years for India to catch up PRC ... even then PRC might have shifted the goal post further liao

after Covid ... now smelly smelly no 50 years no talk!

seriously, i see India no up ... i know they are many talented people in India

but as a whole India aint gonna develop fast and furious like PRC ... 

btw, i have been to India 3 times ... Mumbai for work ... i have seen what cannot be unseen ... :grin:

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Supersonic
1 hour ago, Sosaria said:

I think so too. Last time, long ago, the pay could attract malaysian and thai workers. Then slowly, as construction industry keep cutting costs, these workers also don't want to come here for such meagre salary. Next up is PRC, but gradually as they become more skilled and have more expertise, they will only want to come over for higher paying jobs in construction, not those FW-level kind of duties. Now those PRC that come here on work pass have many other options for jobs, in manufacturing sector or logistics sector, salary is better and working conditions too.

Now using bangla and india workers, already bargain basement level salary. Which country next? Like it or not, this model of relying on low-cost labour cannot last forever. If, say, India, had modernized and developed at the pace of PRC, then where else to look for construction FW?

Laos and cambodia and myanmar still cheap

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Supersonic
28 minutes ago, Fcw75 said:

I was watching channel 8 news last night. 

A boss was lamenting that it’s very very hard to get foreign workers now and if employ locals, need to pay at least 20% more and with incentives.

I was thinking ahborthen?? All these years of over relIance on foreigners and suppressing local wages not enuff ah?

F&B, cleaners wages have been suppressed long enuff. I do F&B part time now so I know.

This Covid will wake up a lot of bosses.

No choice hire local need high wage, short working hours no split shift and high turnover as quit job before learn finish 😆

 

hire FW also hard despite low pay need pay alot levy and quota getting hard and expensive to hire. So open business in sg really headache 😓

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Hypersonic
4 hours ago, 13177 said:

Thought novena square and sq2 just next to each other? Or same building le? If people already in novena square, not much different between going to sq2 or novena square lo. 😂

Two different building. You need to check out and check in when crossing over to the other building. A very tiny "corridor" separates both building.

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Duaki kena caught for not wearing mask in MRT.

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1 hour ago, Fcw75 said:

I was watching channel 8 news last night. 

A boss was lamenting that it’s very very hard to get foreign workers now and if employ locals, need to pay at least 20% more and with incentives.

I was thinking ahborthen?? All these years of over relIance on foreigners and suppressing local wages not enuff ah?

F&B, cleaners wages have been suppressed long enuff. I do F&B part time now so I know.

This Covid will wake up a lot of bosses.

A lot of part time job now only has a hourly of $8 -$10/hr.

Really sad. My wife is on part time job after she loss her full time job in tourism industry.

Daughter also working part time in restaurant. 

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