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Hypersonic
On 6/29/2021 at 9:29 PM, CremornePt said:

My half assed reasoning was actually the exact opposite - higher dosis = more effective & longer immunity. (I didn't care about side effects) 😀

Moderna FTW! 😀

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Supersonic (edited)

Latest field study from Israel. 

  • Efficacy drop to 39% against infection
  • 41% against symptoms
  • 91% against severe symptoms
  • 88% against hospitalization
  • Protection may get weaker over 6 months. 

No wonder we are seeing so many vaccinated getting infected all over in many countries. But data still shows it's better to get vaccinated to minimise severe symptoms and hospitalization.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/07/23/israel-says-pfizer-vaccine-effectiveness-down-to-39/

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Israel says Pfizer vaccine effectiveness down to 39%

The effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine against Covid-19 has dropped to 39 percent in Israel, the country’s Ministry of Health said on Thursday.

The Pfizer vaccine is also only 41 per cent effective in preventing symptomatic Covid, the studies showed. Previously, the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was well over 90 per cent effective against infection.

The new figure refers to the period between June 20 and July 17, the ministry said, adding that the ongoing decline was observed along with the spread of the Delta Covid-19 variant in Israel.

The latest effectiveness rate is significantly lower than that of 64 per cent measured between June 6 and July 3, and 94.3 per cent measured between May 2 and June 5.

However, the effectiveness of the vaccine in preventing severe coronavirus disease in Israel is currently estimated at 91.4 per cent, and in preventing Covid-19 hospitalization,at 88 percent.

Since the start of the vaccination campaign in Israel on Dec. 20, 2020, over 5.75 million people in Israel, or 61.6 per cent of the population, have received the first dose of the vaccine, while 5.28 million have received the second dose.

The Israeli statistics also appeared to paint a picture of protection that gets weaker as months pass after vaccination, due to fading immunity. People vaccinated in January were said to have just 16 per cent protection against infection now, while in those vaccinated in April, effectiveness was at 75 per cent, according to a report in the Times of Israel.

Doctors note that such figures may not only reflect time that has passed since vaccination, but also a bias according to which those who vaccinated early were often people with health conditions and who are more prone to infection, such as the elderly, the report said.

Reacting to the Israeli figures on Thursday, epidemiologist Nadav Davidovitch, a Ben-Gurion University professor and leader of Israel’s doctors’ union, told the newspaper, “What we see is that the vaccine is less effective in preventing transmission, but it’s easy to overlook that it’s still very effective in preventing hospitalisation and severe cases.”

 

 

Singapore are seeing similar high rate of infected who are vaccinated. three quarter of it when we are less than 60% vaccinated as a country.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/vaccinated-people-singapore-make-up-three-quarters-recent-covid-19-cases-2021-07-23/

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Vaccinated people in Singapore make up three-quarters of recent COVID-19 cases

 

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Supersonic (edited)

is this a testament that vaccine efficacy to protect from Delta is as low as 25%? [sly] 

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Hypersonic (edited)
On 6/29/2021 at 9:29 PM, CremornePt said:

My half assed reasoning was actually the exact opposite - higher dosis = more effective & longer immunity. (I didn't care about side effects) 😀

Moderna FTW! 😀

Yes exactly.

That's why we all take 2 shots 

If people think lesser is better why take 2 shots?

They should just take one only.

:D

How many people took just one? Lesser is better right?

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Supersonic
6 minutes ago, Wt_know said:

is this a testament that vaccine efficacy to protect from Delta is as low as 25%? [sly] 

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My post above, Israel has put a number, at 39% efficacy from infection.

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Hypersonic

However if mRNA vaccines really mess up our DNA then Moderna users will be 3 times the X men and ladies than Pfizer users.

:D 

I want to be Wolverine.

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Hypersonic
6 minutes ago, Ender said:

My post above, Israel has put a number, at 39% efficacy from infection.

Just like cars.

Promised 14.5 kml.

Real life only 10.

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5th Gear
5 minutes ago, Ender said:

My post above, Israel has put a number, at 39% efficacy from infection.

Israel went from an initial efficacy of 66% to 39%.

Our MOH put it at 69%. Not sure if they want to update it or they like that two digits.

Point is, the efficacy is subject to change as more people get infected.

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Supersonic
1 minute ago, Vinyl said:

Israel went from an initial efficacy of 66% to 39%.

Our MOH put it at 69%. Not sure if they want to update it or they like that two digits.

Point is, the efficacy is subject to change as more people get infected.

Judging that our vaccinated population is only slightly less 50% and yet we have 75% vaccinated infected, do suggest our numbers to be a lot lower than Israel's 39%. I think they dare not calculate a number for ourselve.

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4th Gear (edited)
56 minutes ago, Ender said:

Latest field study from Israel. 

  • Efficacy drop to 39% against infection
  • 41% against symptoms
  • 91% against severe symptoms
  • 88% against hospitalization
  • Protection may get weaker over 6 months. 

No wonder we are seeing so many vaccinated getting infected all over in many countries. But data still shows it's better to get vaccinated to minimise severe symptoms and hospitalization.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/07/23/israel-says-pfizer-vaccine-effectiveness-down-to-39/

 

Singapore are seeing similar high rate of infected who are vaccinated. three quarter of it when we are less than 60% vaccinated as a country.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/vaccinated-people-singapore-make-up-three-quarters-recent-covid-19-cases-2021-07-23/

 

No kidding. But still, data can be interpreted differently by different people. Best is to see what the Israeli gov is doing now 7 months after they started mass vaccination with Pfizer-BioNtech from Dec 2020.

Israel to reimpose COVID-19 'Green Pass' as Delta variant hits

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/israel-to-reimpose-covid-19-green-pass-as-delta-variant-hits-15271786

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Supersonic (edited)
20 minutes ago, Ender said:

Judging that our vaccinated population is only slightly less 50% and yet we have 75% vaccinated infected, do suggest our numbers to be a lot lower than Israel's 39%. I think they dare not calculate a number for ourselve.

The number needs to be further breakdown by variants.

Based on data released (by MoH) on 7th Jul, it is 69% efficacy against Delta.

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Supersonic
1 minute ago, inlinesix said:

The number needs to be further breakdown by variants.

Based on data released on 7th Jul, it is 69% efficacy against Delta.

If effectiveness against delta  is 69%. which variant is more li hai than delta to bring it down to 39%?Lambda??

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Supersonic
3 minutes ago, Ender said:

If effectiveness against delta  is 69%. which variant is more li hai than delta to bring it down to 39%?Lambda??

What I meant is MoH data.

That's why it is important to go back to science to check the efficacy.

It Is dangerous for us to interpret the data.

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Supersonic
1 hour ago, inlinesix said:

What I meant is MoH data.

That's why it is important to go back to science to check the efficacy.

It Is dangerous for us to interpret the data.

Want to break down that would be for analysis and scientist. For reporting on damages like impact and overall efficacy will do. 

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Hypersonic

Please don’t forget for Asians, initially the efficacy is only 74% and not even 94%. 

The efficacy for delta could be much much lower.

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Supersonic

Pfizer says US government buying 200 million more doses of COVID-19 vaccine

NEW YORK: Pfizer and German partner BioNTech said on Friday (Jul 23) the US government had purchased 200 million additional doses of their COVID-19 vaccine and had the option to buy an updated version of the vaccine targeting new variants of the virus.

 

Pfizer earlier this month said the companies plan to seek authorization from US and European regulators for a booster dose of their COVID-19 vaccine.

The companies have designed a new version of the vaccine targeting the Delta variant, which they plan to test in the coming weeks, but have said the current vaccine could also provide protection against the variant.

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Hypersonic

Taking vaccine now is more about reducing serious illness. Social distancing is still a major factor in reducing transmission. 

Haiz looks like govt estimate of 5 years is likely true. 

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42 minutes ago, Lala81 said:

Taking vaccine now is more about reducing serious illness. Social distancing is still a major factor in reducing transmission. 

Haiz looks like govt estimate of 5 years is likely true. 

Just like wearing condom is to minimize the chance of pregnancy/Aids.. Does not mean with condom u can F around freely.. social distancing must be practice too.. 

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