Voodooman Supersonic January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Kb27 said: Let's look at SARS, there wasn't any vaccine. Nobody got vaccinated against SARS. Nobody died today of SARS, and it's simply gone. So what's changed this time ? If vaccination rate is high, maybe we can stamp out Covid but it does not look promising. Just look at the community cases that keeps coming back in all countries that have closed their borders since last year. This virus may be with us for a long time. I however take comfort that those who are asymptomatic (low virus load) seems to experience less serious symptoms and are not infecting their families in a massive way, unlike cases reported in Mar/ Apr last year. Just an observation, not sure if it is accurate. I like to be optimistic. ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showster Twincharged January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, StreetFight3r said: Sars was only around for 4 months if my memory serves me correctly Totally different from sars Economies are crippled The airline industry is heading for doom if this continues Nobody gets to travel But hor If governments around the world come together to say only those vaccinated can travel for leisure I very sure everyone will queue up take the vaccine LOL By then u see ur vaccinated friends happily boarding planes n traveling the world n carryin on with their lives While we here still taking a wait n see approach Actually if one is not vaccinated, even if both governments allow, would you dare to travel? It will not disappear in 3-5 years. Will you not travel in that time? If you have your chance to vaccinate and choose to wait, then you may have to queue up much later with the mass who want to but might not need the protection as much as you (based on the earlier offer given to you). If not offered yet, then perhaps one’s risk is assessed to be much lower. Await your turn then... Edited January 16, 2021 by Showster 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Kb27 said: Let's look at SARS, there wasn't any vaccine. Nobody got vaccinated against SARS. Nobody died today of SARS, and it's simply gone. So what's changed this time ? This is a good example of no test no case. Currently, nobody has any idea why SARS disappeared. Quote There is 1 case in the community today who is currently unlinked. Case 59321 is a 57 year-old female Singaporean who is a homemaker. She is asymptomatic, and was detected when she took a COVID-19 pre-departure test on 13 January in preparation for a trip to Vietnam. Her result came back positive for COVID-19 infection the next day and she was conveyed to the National Centre for Infectious Diseases in an ambulance. Her polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test yielded a high Ct value, which is indicative of a low viral load. Her serological test result has also come back positive, which indicates a likely past infection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Turboflat4 said: Wait. No one going to complain about "racism" over this thread title? 😂😂😂 Salmon? That’s specism?😂 i think of salmon when they say Norwegian 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Kb27 said: Let's look at SARS, there wasn't any vaccine. Nobody got vaccinated against SARS. Nobody died today of SARS, and it's simply gone. So what's changed this time ? Last time is prevention. Today is herd immunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Kb27 said: Let's look at SARS, there wasn't any vaccine. Nobody got vaccinated against SARS. Nobody died today of SARS, and it's simply gone. So what's changed this time ? These guys were around then. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Turbocharged January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jamesc said: Possible the trials are for people 21 to 59 years old. Maybe not enough trials done on those about 60 years old. The russian sputnik covid vaccine is apparently not recommended for seniors above certain age. That was Putin's clever answer when he was quizzed by a reporter on why he hadn't got himself vaccinated as an example to encourage ordinary russians to get themselves protected. Edited January 16, 2021 by Sosaria 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetFight3r 6th Gear January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, inlinesix said: This is a good example of no test no case. Currently, nobody has any idea why SARS disappeared. Bro I disagree no test no case I'll explain why In fact I think many of us alr got tested Even when u go for a cruise, u are also tested Im sure u have many friends who went for cruises alr? I myself got many friends and colleagues go liao All tested n negative Cruise ship is just one example Frontliners not just healthcare workers are tested all the time My cousins bf is tested every 2 wks He work in the aircon industry Mass testing in certain neighbourhoods also been done Those who travel for business or pca arrangement etc also get tested These are ppl living in community too If got many tio positive case from there then hosay liao our community case confirm more than meets the eye So all this is a good gauge to determine prevalence of Covid-19 in the community If u have symptoms n you go to clinic, u are sure to get tested, pay $10 only Then everyone around u been in contact with will also be tested The fact that case count is still low shows that covid-19 is still low in community Im sure there will still be some cases popping up now n then, but for sure still low It's a bit pointless to test everyone in the community becuz of the incubation period Today you test negative doesnt mean u dun have the virus in u ma Thats a waste of resources But we must never be complacent n always check for leaks and possible blindspots and lapses Last year it was the dormitories This year its our friends in the shipping industry N also Singapore Airlines Tighten n tighten our SOP And as we move into reopening our economy n allowing more activitiew n events to take place, more ppl will have to take the pcr or rapid tests Thats how we move forward 👍🏻 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sosaria said: The russian sputnik covid vaccine is apparently not recommended for seniors above certain age. That was Putin's clever answer when he was quizzed by a reporter on why he hadn't got himself vaccinated as an example to encourage ordinary russians to get themselves protected. I like Putin he is very smart unlike that idiot Trumpet. He was head of the KGB you know. He has a clever answer for everything. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 The reason SARS died out is because of Prevention. Track and Trace, wearing masks, isolation and SARS had a fatal weakness. People with SARS had a temperature and can be detected by thermal scanners. Covid people can be asymptomatic that's why we have scanners at every shopping centre and airports and how many people got stopped went to a doctor and tested positive. We were lucky with SARS and many countries were stupid with Covid. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CremornePt 5th Gear January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, StreetFight3r said: But dun forget the situation is fluid and can change anytime I agree with this. People take for granted, that we're in full control & things are back to a kind of "normal" & we can just keep going like this for another 3-5 years. Big deal - schools, shops & restaurants are open, and we're safe, right? We can feel good about ourselves, because we're better than most other countries? Wrong. We're constantly struggling to keep our current status. Other countries thought they had everything under control, suddenly a few missteps & they've lost control. We're certainly not immune to any missteps! (no pun intended 😀) Also note, that our current situation is not "normal", even while everything looks somewhat normal on the surface. We're basically under full emergency rule at the moment. Locked inside Fortress Singapore. And while we might feel ok about postponing a JB or Bali, BKK trip for the foreseeable future, there's obviously far more at stake for millions of people by these strict border closures. 2 hours ago, StreetFight3r said: Sars was only around for 4 months if my memory serves me correctly That's right - people with SARS were only infectious when they were physically ill; so containment and quarantine basically eliminated the spread. Only 8,000 worldwide cases ever ended up with SARS. Luckily the original animal source never reinfected humans with SARS again. 2 hours ago, Voodooman said: If vaccination rate is high, maybe we can stamp out Covid but it does not look promising. Just look at the community cases that keeps coming back in all countries that have closed their borders since last year. This virus may be with us for a long time. I however take comfort that those who are asymptomatic (low virus load) seems to experience less serious symptoms and are not infecting their families in a massive way, unlike cases reported in Mar/ Apr last year. I believe this is all correct. No one can tell with any certainty, whether the vaccines will actually help extinguish the spread completely (after, say. 3-5 years) or whether CV-19 will simply keep spreading asymptomatically "forever", with vaccines protecting people from getting seriously ill or dying, I read, that asymptomatic spread is less intense than spread from people who end up physically ill, so even if these vaccines don't stop the actual infection ("sterilizing immunity"), maybe it'll be sufficient to limit the spread & eventually it'll die out. Spanish flu apparently never went away - our immune systems just adapted to it over time. Also several types of common cold originate from other types of coronaviruses as well. I think the theory is, that all of these started as "COVID-19" long time ago in centuries past, and over time just became endemic, as people's immune systems learned to adapt. (probably while killing a lot of people first) Either way, the vaccine is our ticket out of this. Edited January 16, 2021 by CremornePt 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, StreetFight3r said: Bro I disagree no test no case I'll explain why In fact I think many of us alr got tested Even when u go for a cruise, u are also tested Im sure u have many friends who went for cruises alr? I myself got many friends and colleagues go liao All tested n negative Cruise ship is just one example Frontliners not just healthcare workers are tested all the time My cousins bf is tested every 2 wks He work in the aircon industry Mass testing in certain neighbourhoods also been done Those who travel for business or pca arrangement etc also get tested These are ppl living in community too If got many tio positive case from there then hosay liao our community case confirm more than meets the eye So all this is a good gauge to determine prevalence of Covid-19 in the community If u have symptoms n you go to clinic, u are sure to get tested, pay $10 only Then everyone around u been in contact with will also be tested The fact that case count is still low shows that covid-19 is still low in community Im sure there will still be some cases popping up now n then, but for sure still low It's a bit pointless to test everyone in the community becuz of the incubation period Today you test negative doesnt mean u dun have the virus in u ma Thats a waste of resources But we must never be complacent n always check for leaks and possible blindspots and lapses Last year it was the dormitories This year its our friends in the shipping industry N also Singapore Airlines Tighten n tighten our SOP And as we move into reopening our economy n allowing more activitiew n events to take place, more ppl will have to take the pcr or rapid tests Thats how we move forward 👍🏻 My point is we need vaccine to protect against asymptomatic cases. Do not hope for the virus to disappear 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddriver 4th Gear January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 (edited) Just done with 1st jab. Queue was a bit long but quite fast and well organise. Next jab will be on the 6 feb..Hope not become a sanedriver😂 Edited January 16, 2021 by Maddriver 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetFight3r 6th Gear January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Maddriver said: Just done with 1st jab. Queue was a bit long but quite fast and well organise. Next jab will be on the 6 feb..Hope not become a sanedriver😂 Well done bro Any side effects so far? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Maddriver said: Just done with 1st jab. Queue was a bit long but quite fast and well organise. Next jab will be on the 6 feb..Hope not become a sanedriver😂 Hope you are feeling good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showster Twincharged January 17, 2021 Share January 17, 2021 Day two post injection. Jogged twice on both weekend days. Yesterday a tiny ache at point of injection. Today ok le, can’t feel anything at all. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddriver 4th Gear January 17, 2021 Share January 17, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, StreetFight3r said: Well done bro Any side effects so far? Thank u bro.. so far did not encounter any side effect. Tested my system today on my daily run.. heart beat looks ok for me on avg 6.15m/km.. i am 45 btw..😊 Here is the FAQ from MOH on the side effect Edited January 17, 2021 by Maddriver 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddriver 4th Gear January 17, 2021 Share January 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Kb27 said: Hope you are feeling good. Ya i m good.. thanks bro.. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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