jonbaekis00 1st Gear February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 All Kia / Hyundai owners (2016 onwards models) How is your general experience with Hyundai & Kia In the past few years ? Ive been keen on the New CN7 Avante for awhile now, but i keep seeing recalls, problems, horror stories online From Theta 2 engine, Gamma Engine, DCT problems (in tuscon 1.6T), IVT problems , Aircon got water sounds, trunk seeping water , extreme vibration when idling, screeching, door opening while driving, transmission jerking, loss of power... wah too many to list.... But all these problems ive not heard from my friends that own hyundai & kia locally, generally said problem free There is even a nationwide petition against hyundai & korean govt for an apology ... 222k people signed. Was keen on CN7 Avante Elite... Seems like good value for money with packed features ( Dual power seats with driver memory, Beautiful interior, Heated n Aircon seats) And stuff like the seat functions above... headache to add aftermarket also right? Mazda 3 has driver power seat with memory... but no passenger side ... Altis dont even need to see Having second thoughts on the Hyundai & Kia Brand... Any bros wanna share their experience good or bad ? Drive safe all ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 2018 elantra. low mileage so can't comment. I doubt kia/hyundai will be sub-par for reliability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcscot 5th Gear February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 Bros ... my experience with Kia limited to Cerato SX which I gave up 2 years ago. TBH ... I loved the car! If the car's aircon did not give up on me (after 8.5 years), I would have driven it till COE was due. I had some concerns about the Korean marques initially but I was just starting out so that was all I could afford. The Kia Cerato had a lot of features for a reasonable price and even some features not available in some Jap cars after 8 years! I think most cars will have some recall issues as it gets more and more complicated. However, I have no regrets getting the Kia Cerato. I have since changed to Honda CRV not a result of not trusting the Sorento but cos CO wanted the CRV. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0y0ta Supercharged February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 For reliability issues, only heard in USA for last few years have Hyundai/Kia high pressure fuel pump (for direct injection) leaking issues, causing cars on fire. Recently their Genesis GV80 new model have IL6 Diesel issues. Other than that, most of US folks in forums and car sites praise Hyundai/Kia for decent reliability. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, jonbaekis00 said: All Kia / Hyundai owners (2016 onwards models) How is your general experience with Hyundai & Kia In the past few years ? Ive been keen on the New CN7 Avante for awhile now, but i keep seeing recalls, problems, horror stories online From Theta 2 engine, Gamma Engine, DCT problems (in tuscon 1.6T), IVT problems , Aircon got water sounds, trunk seeping water , extreme vibration when idling, screeching, door opening while driving, transmission jerking, loss of power... wah too many to list.... But all these problems ive not heard from my friends that own hyundai & kia locally, generally said problem free There is even a nationwide petition against hyundai & korean govt for an apology ... 222k people signed. Was keen on CN7 Avante Elite... Seems like good value for money with packed features ( Dual power seats with driver memory, Beautiful interior, Heated n Aircon seats) And stuff like the seat functions above... headache to add aftermarket also right? Mazda 3 has driver power seat with memory... but no passenger side ... Altis dont even need to see Having second thoughts on the Hyundai & Kia Brand... Any bros wanna share their experience good or bad ? Drive safe all 222k petitions is high, there are many more probably didnt bother, but it could be a domestic market model issue, not sure if they have domestic market model like JDM, if they have pervasive issues , sgp market cant be so quiet. Sgprean like to complain and even report police 😅 Edited February 7, 2021 by Ct3833 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acewin 4th Gear February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 I drive a 2018 AD so far mileage around 70K around went to Komoco 3 times for their drive shaft issue although they rectify FOC but after a while problem still comes back. Wasting my time send to them. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrytales 4th Gear February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Acewin said: I drive a 2018 AD so far mileage around 70K around went to Komoco 3 times for their drive shaft issue although they rectify FOC but after a while problem still comes back. Wasting my time send to them. same here my avante 2019 was sent in to replace the drive shaft at 20k, so far so good. my previous avante 2009 was manual and sold at 175k mileage, no major issues though. only complaint is the weak air con in kimchi cars. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinceng Turbocharged February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 (edited) Reliability issues, weak air-con and heavy fuel consumption of Korean cars aside, if you look at the price of Japanese cars, their higher OMV (Open Market Value), proven reliability and fuel efficiency, why would you even want to consider a Korean marque? Source: www.sgcarmart.com Edited February 7, 2021 by Vinceng 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contipro 5th Gear February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, Acewin said: I drive a 2018 AD so far mileage around 70K around went to Komoco 3 times for their drive shaft issue although they rectify FOC but after a while problem still comes back. Wasting my time send to them. may be yours isolated case. unless others experience the same.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonjin 2nd Gear February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 27 minutes ago, Vinceng said: Reliability issues, weak air-con and heavy fuel consumption of Korean cars aside, if you look at the price of Japanese cars, their higher OMV (Open Market Value), proven reliability and fuel efficiency, why would you even want to consider a Korean marque? first time owning a korean car with the CN7, and you are right about the weak aircon. fuel consumption is pretty good though, on par if not better than the mazda 3/civic/altis. with my heavy short distance city driving, i'm still getting 13km/L, while other folks who drive mainly on expressways are getting close to the claimed 18km/L as for reliability issues, it's still early days for me since i'm just into my 3rd month with the car, but i'm definitely hoping you're wrong on that front 😛 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teomingern 6th Gear February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 Two cars... 2001 to 2006 Hyundai Elantra MD. Bought new. Replaced front bonnet chrome strip, front driver + passenger sun visor - cos the mirror keep dropping out, change O2 sensor, replace leaking front shock absorber. All under warranty and within first 2 years. No other issue until I changed car in 2006. Can't remember mileage but average about 12,000 km per year. 2016 till current Hyundai Sonata LF. Bought new. Replaced front driver and passenger sun visor - cos the mirror keep dropping out, change whole steering wheel cos there was rattling sound in it, changed clockspring in left side steering wheel controls cos the buttons stopped working suddenly. First two issues within first week and first year of ownership. Last issue, just recently, a week back. All under warranty. 67,000 km. I like both cars very much. Very reliable. Both driven up to Cameron Highlands, Ipoh, Penang, numerous times and at high speeds. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonjin 2nd Gear February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 31 minutes ago, teomingern said: I like both cars very much. Very reliable. Both driven up to Cameron Highlands, Ipoh, Penang, numerous times and at high speeds. sounds like you had 2 good rides! i'm looking forward to the day when i can do the same on my CN7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple-Tree 6th Gear February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 7 hours ago, jonbaekis00 said: All Kia / Hyundai owners (2016 onwards models) How is your general experience with Hyundai & Kia In the past few years ? Ive been keen on the New CN7 Avante for awhile now, but i keep seeing recalls, problems, horror stories online From Theta 2 engine, Gamma Engine, DCT problems (in tuscon 1.6T), IVT problems , Aircon got water sounds, trunk seeping water , extreme vibration when idling, screeching, door opening while driving, transmission jerking, loss of power... wah too many to list.... But all these problems ive not heard from my friends that own hyundai & kia locally, generally said problem free There is even a nationwide petition against hyundai & korean govt for an apology ... 222k people signed. Was keen on CN7 Avante Elite... Seems like good value for money with packed features ( Dual power seats with driver memory, Beautiful interior, Heated n Aircon seats) And stuff like the seat functions above... headache to add aftermarket also right? Mazda 3 has driver power seat with memory... but no passenger side ... Altis dont even need to see Having second thoughts on the Hyundai & Kia Brand... Any bros wanna share their experience good or bad ? Drive safe all Last time, I ONLY Drive Japanese Car lor and now my second Kia since end-2017, OK leh. Last Kia, Zero towing !! Evaporator changed after 6 or 7 years lor. I am OK with Kia one. Current is Kia Carens DCT 1.7L CRDi !! Awesome !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceecookie 5th Gear February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vinceng said: Reliability issues, weak air-con and heavy fuel consumption of Korean cars aside, if you look at the price of Japanese cars, their higher OMV (Open Market Value), proven reliability and fuel efficiency, why would you even want to consider a Korean marque? Source: www.sgcarmart.com Japanese car technology and design going downhill since 2010s. Once you see conti cars having modern 6-8 speed auto/dct, turbo and radical cabin design, you will be horrified to see the outdated technology jap car brands are offering. Only exception here is mazda which is doing very well. Korean have been catching up by having European designers formally from conti brands, but selling at a much lower OMV. that's why u see them catching up now. Note: the weak aircon is not due to hardware, it's a localisation issue. It's coded for European/korean climate hence it feel warmer at ASEAN temp. Just keep the temp lower to get more fan speed from the AC. Edited February 7, 2021 by Ceecookie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kia7200 5th Gear February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 I owned a 9yrs old pics to for abt a yr. No issue almost wanted to renew coe but during that time the pqp is quite high so in the end mo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreakid 6th Gear February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, ferrytales said: same here my avante 2019 was sent in to replace the drive shaft at 20k, so far so good. my previous avante 2009 was manual and sold at 175k mileage, no major issues though. only complaint is the weak air con in kimchi cars. I am driving a 2009 Avante HD manual too since day one. 11.5 years on, close to 169k km, it has been better. Still quiet. Past 10 years, mostly on city driving, economy is around 11 to 13km/l. Now mostly on highway, averages around 17km/l. The compressor needs to perform flushing at intervals to provide optimum cool air performance. Well not as cold as the Japs but with periodic flushing, it's good to keep the cabin cool in our weather. For the value I got for this car in 2009 and renewed for 10 years in 2019, the deal this Avante HD provides is really no match. Edited February 7, 2021 by Heartbreakid 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinceng Turbocharged February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 (edited) Even on majority highway driving in a manual, best is 14-15km/h in the 2009 Avante when driven in a highly sedated manner. Quite an amazing feat to achieve 17km/l. Edited February 7, 2021 by Vinceng Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gz0707 4th Gear February 7, 2021 Share February 7, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, jonbaekis00 said: All Kia / Hyundai owners (2016 onwards models) How is your general experience with Hyundai & Kia In the past few years ? Ive been keen on the New CN7 Avante for awhile now, but i keep seeing recalls, problems, horror stories online From Theta 2 engine, Gamma Engine, DCT problems (in tuscon 1.6T), IVT problems , Aircon got water sounds, trunk seeping water , extreme vibration when idling, screeching, door opening while driving, transmission jerking, loss of power... wah too many to list.... But all these problems ive not heard from my friends that own hyundai & kia locally, generally said problem free There is even a nationwide petition against hyundai & korean govt for an apology ... 222k people signed. Was keen on CN7 Avante Elite... Seems like good value for money with packed features ( Dual power seats with driver memory, Beautiful interior, Heated n Aircon seats) And stuff like the seat functions above... headache to add aftermarket also right? Mazda 3 has driver power seat with memory... but no passenger side ... Altis dont even need to see Having second thoughts on the Hyundai & Kia Brand... Any bros wanna share their experience good or bad ? Drive safe all maybe u can provide more details about the petition now that u know most guys here dun have persistent quality issues and problems in their cars. I have 3 yr old DCT with "radical cabin design" and its given no major issues at this point to protest the local AD or manufacturer. Edited February 7, 2021 by Gz0707 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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