2022 Toyota bZ4X

[Jamesc]

My new tag line.

Jamesc bZ4u

Spa and Massage paradise.

 

Edited September 10, 2021 by Jamesc

[Mkl22]

1 hour ago, Sdf4786k said:

nice.. wonder when it will flow down to normal ICE car battery... but then the company go bust.. 10 years later still no recurring income for batt replacement. But from a green earth prospective, its a great inovation. From a biz prospective .. may not see retail customer again for battery shop. 

think it is related to being environmentally friendly. 1batt over 10years, is better than 2 batts over 10.

[inlinesix]

I think it boils down to battery size and software.

Taycan only use 80% of its battery (despite charge status is 100%).

The remaining 20% is used as and when battery deteriorates.

In addition, Porsche promises a 45mins charge time from 0 to 80%.

From 50% to 80% is still 45mins.

Edited September 10, 2021 by inlinesix

[steveluv]

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobiles/Toyota-in-hot-pursuit-of-Tesla-unveiling-EV-with-500-km-range?utm_campaign=GL_JP_update&utm_medium=email&utm_source=NA_newsletter&utm_content=article_link&del_type=4&pub_date=20211030090000&seq_num=2&si=44594

Toyota in hot pursuit of Tesla, unveiling EV with 500 km range
Automaker's first mass-produced all-electric hits global markets in mid-2022

Toyota says its sport utility vehicle bZ4X has a slew of new features beyond being an all-electric model. (Photo courtesy of Toyota)
Nikkei staff writersOctober 30, 2021 06:18 JST

NAGOYA, Japan -- Toyota Motor shook up the auto industry over two decades ago when it offered the world's first mass-produced hybrid, but the Japanese company has been late to embrace full electrics. It hopes to make up lost ground by debuting its first full-electric vehicle, touting a range approaching that offered by Tesla.

The sport utility vehicle bZ4X will provide a range of about 500 km for the front-wheel-drive version and 460 km for the all-wheel-drive option. These distances would place Toyota's offering behind Tesla's Model 3, which sports a range of 560 km, as well as Nissan Motor's Ariya and Volkswagen's ID.3.

But a member of Toyota's development team emphasized the vehicle's long battery life and reliable control system, saying the company differentiates its model from others now on the market through technologies and "know-how built over many years" of expertise in electrified vehicles. The Japanese automaker debuted the world's first mass-produced hybrid car, the Prius, in 1997.

The bZ4X, hitting markets worldwide in mid-2022, will feature a 71.4 kWh battery, with a capacity retention target of 90% after 10 years. This will be possible with a system monitoring the battery's voltage and temperature to detect signs of overheating.

The model will be the automaker's first to feature steer-by-wire. (Photo courtesy of Toyota)

The SUV rolls off a new platform, Toyota's first dedicated to battery electric vehicles and developed jointly with compatriot Subaru. The platform marries the partner's four-wheel-drive expertise and Toyota's connectivity technology.

Fast charging of 150 kW will enable an 80% recharge in 30 minutes. An optional rooftop solar panel can generate enough power for an additional range of 1,800 km a year and serve as a source of energy outdoors and in emergencies.

The vehicle is also Toyota's first to feature steer-by-wire technology, meaning the steering wheel and tires are not physically connected but use electric control systems, as well as the e-axle, an integrated motor and inverter drive system.

Toyota aims to sell 8 million electrified vehicles by 2030, including 2 million electric and fuel-cell autos. The automaker is investing 1.5 trillion yen ($13.2 billion) in automotive batteries worldwide. The plan includes a dedicated battery plant in the U.S.

The bZ4X, unveiled as a concept vehicle earlier this year, represents the first of seven bZ models Toyota plans to release by 2025. It will be built at existing production bases in Japan and China, which indicates that Toyota has yet to accelerate its EV push like some rivals that are making bold investments into this field.

 All eyes are on Toyota to see when it turns up the juice.

[t0y0ta]

23 minutes ago, steveluv said:

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobiles/Toyota-in-hot-pursuit-of-Tesla-unveiling-EV-with-500-km-range?utm_campaign=GL_JP_update&utm_medium=email&utm_source=NA_newsletter&utm_content=article_link&del_type=4&pub_date=20211030090000&seq_num=2&si=44594

Toyota in hot pursuit of Tesla, unveiling EV with 500 km range
Automaker's first mass-produced all-electric hits global markets in mid-2022

Toyota says its sport utility vehicle bZ4X has a slew of new features beyond being an all-electric model. (Photo courtesy of Toyota)
Nikkei staff writersOctober 30, 2021 06:18 JST

NAGOYA, Japan -- Toyota Motor shook up the auto industry over two decades ago when it offered the world's first mass-produced hybrid, but the Japanese company has been late to embrace full electrics. It hopes to make up lost ground by debuting its first full-electric vehicle, touting a range approaching that offered by Tesla.

The sport utility vehicle bZ4X will provide a range of about 500 km for the front-wheel-drive version and 460 km for the all-wheel-drive option. These distances would place Toyota's offering behind Tesla's Model 3, which sports a range of 560 km, as well as Nissan Motor's Ariya and Volkswagen's ID.3.

But a member of Toyota's development team emphasized the vehicle's long battery life and reliable control system, saying the company differentiates its model from others now on the market through technologies and "know-how built over many years" of expertise in electrified vehicles. The Japanese automaker debuted the world's first mass-produced hybrid car, the Prius, in 1997.

The bZ4X, hitting markets worldwide in mid-2022, will feature a 71.4 kWh battery, with a capacity retention target of 90% after 10 years. This will be possible with a system monitoring the battery's voltage and temperature to detect signs of overheating.


The model will be the automaker's first to feature steer-by-wire. (Photo courtesy of Toyota)

The SUV rolls off a new platform, Toyota's first dedicated to battery electric vehicles and developed jointly with compatriot Subaru. The platform marries the partner's four-wheel-drive expertise and Toyota's connectivity technology.

Fast charging of 150 kW will enable an 80% recharge in 30 minutes. An optional rooftop solar panel can generate enough power for an additional range of 1,800 km a year and serve as a source of energy outdoors and in emergencies.

The vehicle is also Toyota's first to feature steer-by-wire technology, meaning the steering wheel and tires are not physically connected but use electric control systems, as well as the e-axle, an integrated motor and inverter drive system.

Toyota aims to sell 8 million electrified vehicles by 2030, including 2 million electric and fuel-cell autos. The automaker is investing 1.5 trillion yen ($13.2 billion) in automotive batteries worldwide. The plan includes a dedicated battery plant in the U.S.

The bZ4X, unveiled as a concept vehicle earlier this year, represents the first of seven bZ models Toyota plans to release by 2025. It will be built at existing production bases in Japan and China, which indicates that Toyota has yet to accelerate its EV push like some rivals that are making bold investments into this field.

 All eyes are on Toyota to see when it turns up the juice.

Specs and features look ordinary.

Looks like a gen1 test-market compliance vehicle

VW ID.4 etc also not selling well. I feel is that the current EV market is still more of early adopter. Majority of those who want to buy EV tend towards the sexy Tesla rather than established brands whose EVs look/drive like normal petrol vehicles.

[steveluv]

23 minutes ago, t0y0ta said:

Specs and features look ordinary.

Looks like a gen1 test-market compliance vehicle

VW ID.4 etc also not selling well. I feel is that the current EV market is still more of early adopter. Majority of those who want to buy EV tend towards the sexy Tesla rather than established brands whose EVs look/drive like normal petrol vehicles.

As for me at this moment I still prefer Toyota's Hybrid

[Inlinefour]

Bus

mrt

walk

is The best 👍👍👍

 

imagine traffic jam bo battery siao liao 🤣🤣🤣

[Hosaybo]

The yoke steering seems to prevent fast cornering over a 90 deg turn.

[inlinesix]

1 hour ago, Hosaybo said:

The yoke steering seems to prevent fast cornering over a 90 deg turn.

Depends on steering rack ratio. 

[inlinesix]

On 10/30/2021 at 10:41 AM, Inlinefour said:

Bus

mrt

walk

is The best 👍👍👍

 

imagine traffic jam bo battery siao liao 🤣🤣🤣

No difference from traffic jam bo Petrol.

[Inlinefour]

15 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

No difference from traffic jam bo Petrol.

can taobao from kiosk to top up 

but this can’t use power bank 

this is the feedback from my tiongkok ex tesla owner 

[inlinesix]

14 minutes ago, Inlinefour said:

can taobao from kiosk to top up 

but this can’t use power bank 

this is the feedback from my tiongkok ex tesla owner 

Our traffic jam including those in causeway/2nd link is no fight with China la.

 

[Inlinefour]

25 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

Our traffic jam including those in causeway/2nd link is no fight with China la.

 

Very true…every time must do fire movement behind trees 😂😂😂

 

lady friend covering face while doing 🤣🤣🤣

[Watwheels]

1 hour ago, happy_man said:

Strange to see Toyota getting ahead of Lexus model launch. Usually its the later getting the greatest and latest before tricking down to Toyota models.

 

Getting ahead?? Already lagging behind Tesla. Still wait to trickle down?? Jiak sai liao lo. All the market share will be going to Tesla if they wait some more. Toyota still have to wait till 2022 while Tesla already have EVs running on the roads. Lagging behind right? 

And then there are the Chinese EV makers competitors. They have cars running all over China. So many other Western car makers are lagging behind. 

Toyota is capable but they hesitated. Now they fall behind Tesla.

Edited November 3, 2021 by Watwheels

[Invigorated]

44 minutes ago, Watwheels said:

Getting ahead?? Already lagging behind Tesla. Still wait to trickle down?? Jiak sai liao lo. All the market share will be going to Tesla if they wait some more. Toyota still have to wait till 2022 while Tesla already have EVs running on the roads. Lagging behind right? 

And then there are the Chinese EV makers competitors. They have cars running all over China. So many other Western car makers are lagging behind. 

Toyota is capable but they hesitated. Now they fall behind Tesla.

Yes you are right that they are late. 

They are definitely behind Tesla when u compare the number of EVs now as Toyota has none, even lexus only has a low key electric EV in the form of the small UXe.

But I would disagree on the market share belonging entirely to Tesla if they are further delayed as there is market segmentation here i.e. buyer demographic, psychographic and behaviourial differences. Even here, many are still not ready to jump onto the EV bandwagon.. infrastructure is one, cost is another. Tesla's though are mighty when u consider the torque per $, isn't that great for the layman here, when many are still cost conscious. This also applies to many other countries that Toyota is heavily vested, like Thailand, Malaysia.. 

My guess is that Tesla will remain almost like apple I.e exclusive, premium and with small privileged group of buyers.. Toyota may end up like Android, with different EVs running for different segments eventually at cost effective price points.

We can only tell when EV-people movers become mainstream before we know for sure if Tesla is going to be a sole winner. I'm not saying that Toyota will catch up, I'm saying that most car manufacturers will catch up and Tesla may lose its competitive edge.. but we share see when more are here next year to 2030..

Edited November 3, 2021 by Invigorated

[inlinesix]

I took this photo from a FB Group.

Should be from Auto Guangzhou 

[Gnahp]

I want to spoil the excitement here

[t0y0ta]

5 hours ago, inlinesix said:

I took this photo from a FB Group.

Should be from Auto Guangzhou 

All the car makers nowadays first release (BZ was first shown in Shanghai) is always in China car shows.

Indicates where the action (and money) is