Weez911 Supersonic May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Wt_know said: MCF 7 early 8 early already shouted potential loop hole here there everywhere but .... well ... nabei ... sexpert said it's "inevitable" ... that's it ... that's the explanation? ok ... only one expert ... i wonder who? ok lo when we drive on the road ... no need to be super careful ... no need to check blind spot whatsoever at the end of the day "accident" is "inevitable" because accident would have found its way? I'm not sure why a dean from the NUS School of Public Health making comments that sound exactly like politicians, ie, we need to remain open (red herring), it was inevitable this strain will come to Singapore in response to online chatters of "potential loopholes were pointed out more than a month ago". It is like when the BBC reporter ask a doctor a question, the Minister of Transport answered on his behalf. I give you an advice, Ong Ye Kung and the rest - just acknowledge your recklessness in managing this virus, and then apologise to Singaporeans for the cock-up. It will do your team a lot of good. Edited May 21, 2021 by Weez911 ↡ Advertisement 8 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 (edited) means what? pick Sinovac which is non mRNA? or better don't vaccine children ... Quote 9/ These are our humble opinions. We hope MOH will allow parents to pick a vaccine that has been proven to be safe (ie, with no long-term harmful side effects) for our children and grandchildren. Edited May 21, 2021 by Wt_know 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Wt_know said: means what? pick Sinovac which is non mRNA? or better don't vaccine children ... Allow parents to choose btw mRNA and Sinovac (that has not been approved yet). https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/sinovac-covid-19-vaccine-effective-but-some-data-lacking-who-14749946 “The COVID-19 vaccine produced by China's Sinovac Biotech is efficacious in preventing COVID-19 in adults under 60, but some quality data on the risk of serious adverse effects is lacking, World Health Organization experts have found.” Edited May 21, 2021 by inlinesix 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 Dr Colleen Thomas and Dr Judy Chen are 2 of the doctors who wrote that letter last year asking people to mask up and avoid mingling. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tkseah Supercharged May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, Fcw75 said: Taken from HWZ: 20th May 2021 *An open letter to all parents deciding to vaccinate or not to vaccinate their child.* We are a group of Singaporean Doctors, who are of the view that MOH should quickly approve a killed-virus vaccine for our children and adults. Here are our humble ponderings: 1/ Children: 99.99% do not need ICU when they catch Covid-19. According to a Senior Pediatrician (Dr Chandra Sekhar Devulapalli), this is likely due to NL63, an almost universal childhood common cold. This immunity is likely to be present in younger Singaporeans in the form of Memory T-Cells. Unfortunately, it wears out by about age 65. This explains why the population above this age frequently populates our ICU when they become very sick with Covid-19. The good news is that Children are doing amazingly well, without any Covid-19 vaccines. 2/ The two mRNA vaccines have been vigorously tested to be safe, but we know this is true only for the short term. We have no evidence that the mRNA vaccines are SAFE in the longer term (10-20 years). This is not a problem with those over 65, as the immediate benefits of vaccination for this high-risk group outweigh the risks of the unknown long-term side effects. For Children, however, it is another matter altogether. 3/ mRNA themselves are very fragile in the human body and are easily attacked by Ribonucleases that are distributed very widely in our body. Reverse Transcriptase, which converts RNA to DNA, is very troubling. It is not naturally found in our body but becomes readily available if you are very sick with a chronic virus, like Hepatitis B. Our local population has significantly higher rates of Hepatitis B (about 3.6% - many of the infected are unaware) and many are still undetected. Relying on data from a population that is significantly different from our local population is NOT very wise. Please refer to the article: SARS-CoV-2 RNA reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome - PubMed Prolonged SARS-CoV-2 RNA shedding and recurrence of PCR-positive tests have been widely reported in patients after recovery, yet these patients most commonly are non-infectious. Here we investigated the possibility that SARS-CoV-2 RNAs can be reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human... pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov 4/ mRNA vaccines do not stop adults from transmitting Covid-19-VOC. We can assume that this will also be the case with children. 5/ It is NOT very WISE to try on Singaporean Children with Novel mRNA technology when they do not really need it and it DOES NOT effectively STOP them from becoming VECTORS. 6/ Killed-Virus technology has been around for decades and has a very long and safe track record. We even have thousands of it in our local warehouse at this moment and it had just been tested to be safe at Phase II/III for children (550 subjects). Please refer to the article: Sinovac says its vaccine is safe for children as young as 3 Sinovac says its COVID-19 vaccine is safe in children ages 3-17, based on preliminary data, and it has submitted the data to Chinese drug regulators abcnews.go.com 7/ We feel a lot safer, with KNOWN technology (proven to be SAFE), since our children are likely to outlive us. Primum non nocere. 8/ For mRNA, long-term side effects are unknown and unstudied. This point is supported by all Experts. 9/ These are our humble opinions. We hope MOH will allow parents to pick a vaccine that has been proven to be safe (ie, with no long-term harmful side effects) for our children and grandchildren. Let us as a community, stand together and overcome this pandemic, with wisdom and prudence. Vaccination will drastically reduce the severity of Covid-19 infection for the vulnerable and will save many lives. We are very grateful for the availability of Vaccines made available by the determined effort of the MTF. Providing us an option for a killed-virus vaccine would be most appreciated. Yours Sincerely, Dr Benny K H Tan (MCR 01588A) Dr Chia AM (MCR M02673E) Dr Clement Lai (MCR M04559D) Dr Colleen Thomas (MCR M05352Z) Dr CT Tan (MCR M01740Z) Dr Diane Jek (MCR 09198G) Dr Judy Chen (MCR 05364C) Dr Kee Leng Chee (MCR (M01006E) Dr Kho Kwang Po (MCR 00499E) Dr Khoo Boo Kian (MCR 03808C) Dr Paul IW Yang (MCR 08851z) Dr Suzie Lee (MCR M05023G) Waiting for the source to verify that this open letter is authentic before I share it further.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Tkseah said: Waiting for the source to verify that this open letter is authentic before I share it further.. Haha yes, esp from HWZ. Edited May 21, 2021 by Fcw75 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez911 Supersonic May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 Dr Colleen Thomas and Dr Judy Chen > Dale Fisher. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Tkseah said: Waiting for the source to verify that this open letter is authentic before I share it further.. u mean u checking with the departments? why would some 1 fake this lol??😅 unless they crazy or eat finish nothing to do . 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 9 hours ago, Raubern said: Getting out of hand liao. This one is mandatory testing and not urged or strongly encouraged They never report how many covid cases detected in that block?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttl1976 5th Gear May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, 13177 said: They never report how many covid cases detected in that block?! Must be a few to trigger the mandatory check. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 So, there is one or two Super Spreader moving around Singkie untraced ..... That's why so many unlink cases .... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, Beregond said: u mean u checking with the departments? why would some 1 fake this lol??😅 unless they crazy or eat finish nothing to do . 😂 B'cos never show Badge only letters..... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, 13177 said: They never report how many covid cases detected in that block?! What if I stays at neighbouring blocks and passing by the void deck of 506 .... Kenna or not .... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tianmo Hypersonic May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, 13177 said: They never report how many covid cases detected in that block?! I guess a few households, if a few from same family is actually normal. But if you have a few from different units in the same block, then there is a story behind we need to dig out, and dig out fast..... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tianmo Hypersonic May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Picnic06-Biante15 said: What if I stays at neighbouring blocks and passing by the void deck of 506 .... Kenna or not .... Very soon you will have you answer.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tianmo said: I guess a few households, if a few from same family is actually normal. But if you have a few from different units in the same block, then there is a story behind we need to dig out, and dig out fast..... I guess maybe in this case, that block should have a few cases from different units, thats why they must swab test the whole block mandatory? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tianmo Hypersonic May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 41 minutes ago, Beregond said: u mean u checking with the departments? why would some 1 fake this lol??😅 unless they crazy or eat finish nothing to do . 😂 These days you can never tell, crazy ppl could be someone you think is normal, and ppl are so free they make fake news so real it make you sometime think you are the fake one...... 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Civic101 6th Gear May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 Hopefully Monday $8 million Toto bo cancel - going to q now!👋 ↡ Advertisement 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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