COVID-19: Vaccinating your kids

[Atonchia]

13 minutes ago, Ender said:

He really taking his kpi to the max,  aiming for 100% of population vaccinated 

https://mothership.sg/2021/08/children-below-12-vaccination/

Children aged below 12 should be able to get vaccinated in early 2022: Ong Ye Kung

The Multi-Ministry Taskforce held a press conference on Thursday (Aug. 19) to share updates on the Covid-19 situation in Singapore.

Children aged below 12 to get vaccinated in early 2022

Speaking at the conference, Minister for Health Ong Ye Kung said that vaccination centres in Singapore will remain operating despite more people completing the vaccination regime.

This is because of three reasons:

1) To vaccinate the rest of the population,

2) Children aged below 12 have yet to receive vaccination, and

3) To administer booster shots

Ong said that children aged below 12 should be able to get vaccinated in early 2022, after the ministry of health (MOH) has properly studied the safety and efficacy aspects affecting the age group.

Booster shots

Ong also said that vaccination centres must remain open for Singapore to conduct a Covid-19 booster exercise.

In a press release on the same day, MOH explained that while a large proportion of Singapore's population is now vaccinated, the ministry is planning ahead to ensure that the population continues to be well protected from Covid-19 and its new variants as they arise.

According to MOH, the Expert Committee on Covid-19 Vaccination (EC19V) has been reviewing and monitoring the local and overseas data on vaccine boosters and is developing recommendations on Singapore’s booster strategy.

The EC19V is also looking at the need to enhance the immune response of certain groups of individuals. This includes the severely immunocompromised people who have a weaker immune response to vaccination despite completing a full vaccination regimen.

For this group, there may be benefits in administering a third dose of the vaccine for them.

Some considerations the committee have to take into account before finalising their recommendations include the incidence of adverse reactions, and whether the booster shot should be administered with the same vaccine, Ong elaborated at the press conference.

The EC19V will make its recommendations shortly, said MOH.

 

Under 12? 

Really? 

How about infant? 

[Philipkee]

Is it safe for children under 12 to be jabbed?

And yes, I did write in to their Facebook page.

And I realised not many people write in.  Either no one cares or too humji.  Or people really think it is safe.

[Karoon]

24 minutes ago, Philipkee said:

Is it safe for children under 12 to be jabbed?

And yes, I did write in to their Facebook page.

And I realised not many people write in.  Either no one cares or too humji.  Or people really think it is safe.

What does your medical colleagues think?

[Philipkee]

4 hours ago, Karoon said:

What does your medical colleagues think?

No one wants to give any comments.  Dunno why....

[mersaylee]

13 hours ago, Atonchia said:

Under 12? 

Really? 

How about infant? 

Add one extra drop of mrna into the bcg...100%...no one singapore lang to be left behind 😁

[inlinesix]

20 minutes ago, Philipkee said:

No one wants to give any comments.  Dunno why....

It is a hot topic that divides medical community.

Currently, not enough data to support it is safe for below 12.

Based on talks given by paediatric, the worry is multisystem inflammatory syndrome (COVID19 can trigger this as well).

[Lala81]

Don't think there's any released data on safety yet.

With the delta the way it's going, reasonable to consider vaccinating kids just by the sheer numbers that may potentially get infected, resulting in a few very sick kids.
There's only 2 paediatric ICUs in singapore. 

The Paeds hospitals in the badly affected US states and also Malaysia are full house.

Edited August 20, 2021 by Lala81

[Ender]

19 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

It is a hot topic that divides medical community.

Currently, not enough data to support it is safe for below 12.

Based on talks given by paediatric, the worry is multisystem inflammatory syndrome (COVID19 can trigger this as well).

Currently although the delta has increased children hospitalisation, but still  children form a small percentage of hospitalization, and the usa data shows most of them has underlying conditions. Healthy children are even lower risk.

To me, just me, the benefits doesn't outweighs the risk for children who has long runway in life to be subjected to experimental vaccine. 

[Ender]

 

Local context below, 

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/studies-260-children-who-had-covid-19-singapore-show-half-had-no-symptoms-none-had-serious-ailments

[Lala81]

24 minutes ago, Ender said:

Currently although the delta has increased children hospitalisation, but still  children form a small percentage of hospitalization, and the usa data shows most of them has underlying conditions. Healthy children are even lower risk.

To me, just me, the benefits doesn't outweighs the risk for children who has long runway in life to be subjected to experimental vaccine. 

depends what is defined as underlying conditions. Asthma is pretty common.

If underlying conditions is like heart disease, cancer sufferer or what. Then different.

Basically covering everything under a blanket of medical conditions doesn't tell you much. 

[Kb27]

Delta is hitting more children in the US. I think they are looking at vaccinating 5 to 12 years old next.

 

More children are being admitted to hospitals with Covid-19 as health systems struggle to deal with surge of new patients

(CNN)More children are being hospitalized with Covid-19 as health systems struggle to cope with a surge in new patients and officials race to expand vaccine protection.

The seven-day average number of children reported hospitalized with Covid-19 jumped almost 30% to a new peak of 239 in the week ending August 9. That number is up from the 184 children reported the previous week, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Evaluating vaccines for children under 12 is now a top priority for the US Food and Drug Administration, and it is possible that doses could become available to them by the end of the year.

"Make no mistake, the FDA will move quickly on this because they recognize what's at stake. It's the health of our children, and there's really nothing more important than that," Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

[CremornePt]

6 hours ago, Lala81 said:

With the delta the way it's going, reasonable to consider vaccinating kids just by the sheer numbers that may potentially get infected, resulting in a few very sick kids.

I think this will be the main consideration - if somehow the overall global COVID pandemic shows no signs of subsiding by its own & the carnage of infection and fatalities keeps raging, eventually children 3-12 will have to be next, whether we like it or not.

Frustratingly, so far COVID doesn't seem to behave like the previous respiratory pandemics... - Spanish flu fizzled out after 2 years, but then again, influenza virus ≠ coronavirus.

[Ender]

Latest update now is no strenuous activity for two weeks after jab. Previously was one week.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/younger-individuals-should-avoid-strenuous-physical-activity-two-weeks-instead-just-one

[13177]

2 hours ago, Ender said:

Latest update now is no strenuous activity for two weeks after jab. Previously was one week.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/younger-individuals-should-avoid-strenuous-physical-activity-two-weeks-instead-just-one

Older people one or two weeks? 😅

[Ender]

Teens from12-15 more likely to suffer adverse event from vaccine than hospitalisation due to covid19. First study to show that benefit do not outweigh the risk for this age group. 

In local context here. In singapore the benefit did not outweight the risk, coz we have one confirm 16 year old had claimed the maximum amount for vaccine injury and likely to have permanent damage (one of the criteria to claim), compare to no teens iever needed ICU for Covid19. This is the price paid when we use other country (USA) statistics instead of using our own.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/boys-more-at-risk-from-pfizer-jab-side-effect-than-covid-suggests-study

https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2251

Edited September 17, 2021 by Ender

[Ender]

Vaccination Ong said that agreement has been made with pfizer for vaccine for 5 -11 years old. Hope no separate treatment for the unvax kids who parents chose not to.

https://tnp.straitstimes.com/new-supply-agreement-inked-pfizer-its-covid-19-vaccines-children

 

[Ender]

Just to highlight a potential long term adverse effect. We just don't know much about mRNA vaccine, especially the long term benefits and adverse effects.  Pfizer said once their vaccine is good for one year at least, and at the 6th month, their study say vaccine at 6th month still provides good protection. Only when Israel situation arise, we now know at 6th month, most elderly protection had wane till they need a booster.  Cannot trust their own study, now their 3rd phase trial integrity has come into questions from a whistle blower.

 

[Ender]

Chidlren at 5 - 11 are by nature very active.. Tell them two weeks no strenuous exercise is an impossible task.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/12-year-old-boy-in-germany-dies-two-days-after-second-pfizer-shot/