The real situation happening in Malaysia's Healthcare System?

[Mustank]

Over here Jiak satay Jiak papaya but people no worry because got vacine

whose credit?

PAP 

[Wt_know]

33 minutes ago, Mustank said:

Over here Jiak satay Jiak papaya but people no worry because got vacine

whose credit?

PAP 

vaccine is the new normal condom ... got 'protection' ... muahahaha

[inlinesix]

1 hour ago, Kklim said:

Selangor accounts for about half of cases but vaccination rate is only 20%

Selangor State govt mass test everyone

[Mustank]

Just now, Wt_know said:

vaccine is the new normal condom ... got 'protection' ... muahahaha

Many years ago Spanish go America 

bring small pox

many died

 

[Maxus-MIFA9]

4 minutes ago, Mustank said:

Many years ago Spanish go America 

bring small pox

many died

 

Its ok ...

Be scared when nong nong time go ...

[Wt_know]

On 7/14/2021 at 12:24 PM, BabyBlade said:

If you have fifteen minutes to spare. This is quite harrowing to listen. 😥

as expected ... hospital management reprimand and instruct all doctor / nurse / staff do not share or upload picture/video to social media

video and image has cause alarm to public and damage msia reputation

kns ... aberthen? sweep under carpet, is it?

Edited July 15, 2021 by Wt_know

[Sdf4786k]

On 7/14/2021 at 12:50 PM, Weez911 said:

Sorry this has happened across our border and I understand it was also very bad in Indonesia.

That's why I keep emphasize that we cannot let our healthcare system be overwhelmed. Once you cross that line, a higher % of people will die. This is not being pessimistic, but being realist.

Yeah .. I can empathise with this.. but the workflow in Singapore is truly screw up.. 

I had to first of all wait at the polyclinic at 1230 which is the appointment time when I register in the morning.. and when I came  back at 1215 I had to wait for additional 2.5 hours before I could be seen.. snd this is for a torn tendon/ muscle compression at my shoulder.. then after seeing the poly doctor I was given a week of medication so that I can proceed to see a specialist at the hospital.. what I din anticipate is the specialist need a wait time of 1 month and my meds only cover 1 week.

then I called the polyclinic to request for further medication to cover me till one month later.. to me I would have imagined a straightforward request of getting a doctor note to top up the meds.

imagine the response from the polyclinic hot line is no. You have to see the doctor to get your inflammation meds..

why the heck should I go see again when the doctor time can best be use to serve other patients in need. And my condition from one week ago would have been the same or slightly worst.

it is what it is because we probably lack of talent to be pragmatic snd reasonable individuals.

But that’s just me ranting when In the first place the polyclinic doctor should have check thru the appointment and provide sufficient meds till I can go for MRI isn’t it? 
 

I am further told that after the visit to the hospital is when they will schedule the mri which will take anything from one to 4 weeks depending on the demand..

I think we need to top up the number of doctors or clear up this workflow because seriously, someone like me have to prolong my suffering till I can see a doctor and then take a mri and then arrange for another appointment to look at the results.. 2 months later I hope the prognosis is not a comment that I should have come in sooner as there is something we could have done for u…

Edited July 15, 2021 by Sdf4786k

[Weez911]

7 minutes ago, Sdf4786k said:

Yeah .. I can empathise with this.. but the workflow in Singapore is truly screw up.. 

I had to first of all wait at the polyclinic at 1230 which is the appointment time when I register in the morning.. and when I came  back at 1215 I had to wait for additional 2.5 hours before I could be seen.. snd this is for a torn tendon/ muscle compression at my shoulder.. then after seeing the poly doctor I was given a week of medication so that I can proceed to see a specialist at the hospital.. what I din anticipate is the specialist need a wait time of 1 month and my meds only cover 1 week.

then I called the polyclinic to request for further medication to cover me till one month later.. to me I would have imagined a straightforward request of getting a doctor note to top up the meds.

imagine the response from the polyclinic hot line is no. You have to see the doctor to get your inflammation meds..

why the heck should I go see again when the doctor time can best be use to serve other patients in need. And my condition from one week ago would have been the same or slightly worst.

it is what it is because we probably lack of talent to be pragmatic snd reasonable individuals.

But that’s just me ranting when In the first place the polyclinic doctor should have check thru the appointment and provide sufficient meds till I can go for MRI isn’t it? 
 

I am further told that after the visit to the hospital is when they will schedule the mri which will take anything from one to 4 weeks depending on the demand..

I think we need to top up the number of doctors or clear up this workflow because seriously, someone like me have to prolong my suffering till I can see a doctor and then take a mri and then arrange for another appointment to look at the results.. 2 months later I hope the prognosis is not a comment that I should have come in sooner as there is something we could have done for u…

Bro if you have insurance maybe can see a specialist and then get a quick MRI within days? I mean if your pain is bothering you too much then you can consider.

[Sdf4786k]

22 minutes ago, Weez911 said:

Bro if you have insurance maybe can see a specialist and then get a quick MRI within days? I mean if your pain is bothering you too much then you can consider.

I also know .. but no insurance plan .. unless Medisave is an insurance plsn.

I just finished the second visit consultation and they say I already quite lucky to have an appointment that is one month later..

 

after wards I gor temple give offering and go church to pray for redemption 😂 

if waiting for one month is considered lucky, we are in serious trouble .

added to that, the doctor claims that prolonged usage fir one month may lead to liver damage/failure..

nice… because of the lack of appointments slots I have to risk my liver 

Edited July 15, 2021 by Sdf4786k

[Maxus-MIFA9]

MY today 13,215 cases

 

If play TOTO : 13, 21, 05, 32, 35, 25 & 11 

[Ho2786]

4 hours ago, Mustank said:

Over here Jiak satay Jiak papaya but people no worry because got vaccine

whose credit?

PAP 

no PAP no vaccine.

PAP wan shui wan shui wan wan shui.

 

[Atrecord]

9 hours ago, Beanoyip said:

But saw reports they are having the highest vaccination rates, more than 400k a day..

got count how many of these are just poke needle without anything injected or not? 🙊

[Volvobrick]

3 hours ago, Sdf4786k said:

Yeah .. I can empathise with this.. but the workflow in Singapore is truly screw up.. 

I had to first of all wait at the polyclinic at 1230 which is the appointment time when I register in the morning.. and when I came  back at 1215 I had to wait for additional 2.5 hours before I could be seen.. snd this is for a torn tendon/ muscle compression at my shoulder.. then after seeing the poly doctor I was given a week of medication so that I can proceed to see a specialist at the hospital.. what I din anticipate is the specialist need a wait time of 1 month and my meds only cover 1 week.

then I called the polyclinic to request for further medication to cover me till one month later.. to me I would have imagined a straightforward request of getting a doctor note to top up the meds.

imagine the response from the polyclinic hot line is no. You have to see the doctor to get your inflammation meds..

why the heck should I go see again when the doctor time can best be use to serve other patients in need. And my condition from one week ago would have been the same or slightly worst.

it is what it is because we probably lack of talent to be pragmatic snd reasonable individuals.

But that’s just me ranting when In the first place the polyclinic doctor should have check thru the appointment and provide sufficient meds till I can go for MRI isn’t it? 
 

I am further told that after the visit to the hospital is when they will schedule the mri which will take anything from one to 4 weeks depending on the demand..

I think we need to top up the number of doctors or clear up this workflow because seriously, someone like me have to prolong my suffering till I can see a doctor and then take a mri and then arrange for another appointment to look at the results.. 2 months later I hope the prognosis is not a comment that I should have come in sooner as there is something we could have done for u…

That's one way to make you go any hospital direct as a non subsidised private patient.....

 

Edited July 15, 2021 by Volvobrick

[t0y0ta]

6 hours ago, Sdf4786k said:

Yeah .. I can empathise with this.. but the workflow in Singapore is truly screw up.. 

I had to first of all wait at the polyclinic at 1230 which is the appointment time when I register in the morning.. and when I came  back at 1215 I had to wait for additional 2.5 hours before I could be seen.. snd this is for a torn tendon/ muscle compression at my shoulder.. then after seeing the poly doctor I was given a week of medication so that I can proceed to see a specialist at the hospital.. what I din anticipate is the specialist need a wait time of 1 month and my meds only cover 1 week.

then I called the polyclinic to request for further medication to cover me till one month later.. to me I would have imagined a straightforward request of getting a doctor note to top up the meds.

imagine the response from the polyclinic hot line is no. You have to see the doctor to get your inflammation meds..

why the heck should I go see again when the doctor time can best be use to serve other patients in need. And my condition from one week ago would have been the same or slightly worst.

 it is what it is because we probably lack of talent to be pragmatic snd reasonable individuals.

But that’s just me ranting when In the first place the polyclinic doctor should have check thru the appointment and provide sufficient meds till I can go for MRI isn’t it? 
 

I am further told that after the visit to the hospital is when they will schedule the mri which will take anything from one to 4 weeks depending on the demand..

 I think we need to top up the number of doctors or clear up this workflow because seriously, someone like me have to prolong my suffering till I can see a doctor and then take a mri and then arrange for another appointment to look at the results.. 2 months later I hope the prognosis is not a comment that I should have come in sooner as there is something we could have done for u…

Bro that is typical public healthcare. 

They are providing healthcare for 90% of Singapore residents at highly subsidised rates.

So the queues for everything are very long.

Basically you stay in this system, it is very very affordable, and you eventually get fairly good attention (after the waits)

If you got cash to burn, then go private - you can get appts next day. But cost easily 10x of public.

I am not saying you are wrong, but you got to have the right expectations of navigating the public system

[inlinesix]

5 minutes ago, t0y0ta said:

Bro that is typical public healthcare. 

They are providing healthcare for 90% of Singapore residents at highly subsidised rates.

So the queues for everything are very long.

Basically you stay in this system, it is very very affordable, and you eventually get fairly good attention (after the waits)

If you got cash to burn, then go private - you can get appts next day. But cost easily 10x of public.

I am not saying you are wrong, but you got to have the right expectations of navigating the public system

Make appointment as non-subsidized patient also can get appointment easily.

That’s what I did when I went to NUH Heart Centre for routine check 

[Maxus-MIFA9]

17 hours ago, Sdf4786k said:

Yeah .. I can empathise with this.. but the workflow in Singapore is truly screw up.. 

I had to first of all wait at the polyclinic at 1230 which is the appointment time when I register in the morning.. and when I came  back at 1215 I had to wait for additional 2.5 hours before I could be seen.. snd this is for a torn tendon/ muscle compression at my shoulder.. then after seeing the poly doctor I was given a week of medication so that I can proceed to see a specialist at the hospital.. what I din anticipate is the specialist need a wait time of 1 month and my meds only cover 1 week.

then I called the polyclinic to request for further medication to cover me till one month later.. to me I would have imagined a straightforward request of getting a doctor note to top up the meds.

imagine the response from the polyclinic hot line is no. You have to see the doctor to get your inflammation meds..

why the heck should I go see again when the doctor time can best be use to serve other patients in need. And my condition from one week ago would have been the same or slightly worst.

it is what it is because we probably lack of talent to be pragmatic snd reasonable individuals.

But that’s just me ranting when In the first place the polyclinic doctor should have check thru the appointment and provide sufficient meds till I can go for MRI isn’t it? 
 

I am further told that after the visit to the hospital is when they will schedule the mri which will take anything from one to 4 weeks depending on the demand..

I think we need to top up the number of doctors or clear up this workflow because seriously, someone like me have to prolong my suffering till I can see a doctor and then take a mri and then arrange for another appointment to look at the results.. 2 months later I hope the prognosis is not a comment that I should have come in sooner as there is something we could have done for u…

If only you go to A&E on the day you go to polyclinic, everything will be done within the hospital. Although waiting time at A&E could stretch from 4 to 6 hours, at least they will call the on-call/duty specialist on muscle to view you. Surely the doctor will call for an x-ray or scan before releasing you. Imagine you could have bypass so many steps if you go to A&E. 

Polyclinic have to call hospital to arrange for an appointment which usually take weeks or months later. Then you go to the hospital with the referral letter at the appointed date & time.

Yes, hospital had said not to visit them unless serious cases but torn muscle are serious if not treated immediately. You could be limping if not treated.

Those having fever, cough or running nose should avoid A&E 

[Maxus-MIFA9]

11 hours ago, inlinesix said:

That’s what I did when I went to NUH Heart Centre for routine check 

Hmmmm........... having heart problem. 

Better don't go to KTV for excitement hor ...    Wait your heart can't take it when the Viet bu hugging you ...

Have you collected your free Oximeter from Termasek to check your daily oxygen level ?

[Atrecord]

11 hours ago, t0y0ta said:

Bro that is typical public healthcare. 

They are providing healthcare for 90% of Singapore residents at highly subsidised rates.

So the queues for everything are very long.

Basically you stay in this system, it is very very affordable, and you eventually get fairly good attention (after the waits)

If you got cash to burn, then go private - you can get appts next day. But cost easily 10x of public.

I am not saying you are wrong, but you got to have the right expectations of navigating the public system

Yup, public healthcare is affordable, and the flip side is the long wait. Anyone requiring specialist consultation must first queue at polyclinic, then get an appointment at one of the Restructured Hospitals (RH), which could entail waiting time of up to 4-5 months, depending on specialty and demand. Then if require operation, will be at the subsidised rates, and can choose only C class ward (8-bedder open ward), or a B2 ward (6-bedder open ward). Cannot choose the doctor/surgeon, and it's dependent on who is available to see you for each visit, and the operations are done by junior/new specialists, under the supervision of the senior specialists. These are the subsidised class.

Then there is also the private class in these RHs. If one gets a referral from a private GP (instead of polyclinic), then will go to this route, and the rates are at private rates, much higher cos there's no subsidy. Wait time is shorter than subsidised, and you get to choose which doctor you want to see, and that doctor will be operating on you. Hosp stay will be at B class (4-bedder aircon) or higher. 

The problem is that even for the private class at these RHs, the waiting time can be weeks away for an appointment. And then for MRI, it will also be another 2-5 weeks away...

The fees to pay for these private patients at RHs, is still a bit lower than the patients at private hospitals (e.g. Mt E, East Shore, Raffles Hosps, etc.), but not too far away. The waiting time though, is substantially longer...