COVID-19: Back to the Future Phase 2 (HA) 22July to 18Aug..

[Voodooman]

1 hour ago, Chongster said:

At 80% that still leave around 1 million people unvaccinated?  Given the R0 of delta wouldn’t it still overwhelm the healthcare system if we go endemic…

Out of the 1 million unvaccinated, around 500k (10% of population) are probably below age of 12, whose symptoms are typically mild based on current data. So technically we will be almost 90% vaccinated for those eligible by Sep. 

I really don't think herd immunity from infection can be achieved, based on latest report that vaccination does not stop transmission and with vaccination, we will have a lot of asymptomatic carriers.  It is scary to think what will happen to the remaining 500k that cannot be vaccinated or choose to achieve immunity through infection. That is the ugly truth and I hope I am wrong. 

[Tohto]

58 minutes ago, Wt_know said:

it's tough decision .... i also advised my parent and parent in law to take the vaccine 

nothing happen ... i am hero

something happen ... sure got blame ... and it's a permanent "mark" that cannot be easily wiped off  ... 

My parents are above 80s. They are the earliest seniors batch to get the vaccination since they are staying at AMK. 

My brothers and I encourage them to go for the vaccination once it was announced and immediately registered for them after receiving the invitation letter.

They had been on the yearly flu vaccination and they are not afraid of needles.

[Didu]

11 hours ago, Fcw75 said:

FAQ: What is the difference between safe-distancing ambassadors and enforcement officers?
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-safe-distancing-ambassadors-enforcement-officers-powers-15381774

How difficult is it to fabrcate these plastic cards?  😁

[Tohto]

1 hour ago, bsswan said:

I thought gov said we were increasing at around 1% per day?

We should hit that 80% exactly on the day before the new ND "parade". Coincidence, good planning, or conspiracy theory? 😉

Information from MOH daily report. First image is completing 1st dose.

Edited August 5, 2021 by Tohto

[Tohto]

1 hour ago, Wt_know said:

to be honest ... spore vaccination process and handling is really "no horse run"...    

the tough question is how to "live with the virus" after we got 80% vaccination rate

the new normal is really tricky and roller coaster ride 

1 day you think is new normal ... loosen up a bit ... relax control measures ... next we got HA or CB

because when you think you are safe ... boomz .... cluster after cluster emerge

if you don't take drastic measure to break the chain like HA or CB

cluster become outbreak ...  

Yah.

Before the Delta, everyone is hoping with vaccination by end of the year we are more of life back to normal.

Was looking forward to redeeming my SQ mileage for 2022 by end of this year.. now don't even dare to dream of it. And my mileage had been extended and extend by SQ. Not sure how many times they can further extend 😓

[Beanoyip]

LOCKDOWN no.6 coming to Victoria 😁

[SGMCF328]

Really is

Man seen without mask on train remanded at IMH after rant during first day of trial

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/man-seen-without-mask-train-remanded-imh-after-rant-during-first-day-trial-2093146

SINGAPORE: A man who was seen without a mask on a train was ordered by a judge on Thursday (Aug 5) to be remanded at the Institute of Mental Health (IMH) after ranting in court.

The prosecution also pointed out that British national Benjamin Glynn's family and friends had written to them reporting a "marked change of behaviour" in Glynn that was noticeable especially after COVID-19 restrictions set in.

Siao lang #1

Glynn, 40, faces four charges for failing to wear a mask without reasonable excuse, public nuisance and using threatening words towards a public servant.

Throughout the hearing, Glynn repeated that he was a sovereign, living man against whom the charges had no effect. He called the proceedings "preposterous" and "disgusting".

His supporters filled the courtroom, with one woman repeatedly laughing and another clapping loudly when Glynn slammed Singapore's judiciary. Court officers stepped in to stop them at various points.

Thursday was meant to be Glynn's first day of trial, but he insisted he would not be pleading guilty or not guilty as it was "nonsense".

Siao lang #2

The hearing opened with Glynn trying to introduce his legal counsel, a Mr Abdul Rashid Abdul Rahman. He had appeared in court with Glynn previously, but was stopped at the door for improper attire.

Deputy Public Prosecutor Timotheus Koh told the court that the prosecution had performed their checks and confirmed that Mr Abdul Rashid was not an advocate and solicitor of the Supreme Court of Singapore.

Mr Abdul Rashid said he is not, but that he is an "ambassador at large and advocate of Kingdom Filipina Hacienda", and that he was there to defend his "sovereign compatriot".

He said he understood the meaning of the bar, but said "I don't need a licence to practice".

Mr Koh told the court that the prosecution would be making an application for Glynn to be assessed at IMH, to see if he is of unsound mind.

"Prosecution has received a letter from the accused's family and friends or persons purporting to be his family and friends and in this letter, the persons report a marked change of behaviour in the accused's person that was noticeable especially after the COVID restrictions set in," he said.

Given this new information, as well as Glynn's behaviour in court and previous hearings and his choice of counsel, the prosecution said it would be "prudent" to assess Glynn to ensure he is of sound mind and capable of making his defence.

Glynn interrupted at multiple points. He told District Judge Eddy Tham: "I assure you my mind is very sound. Every time I ask you hard questions, you can't answer me, you shoot me down. What law have I broken? I asked you three times the last time, you gave me silence, silence, silence."

He added that he was "wide awake", "enlightened" and researched "everything" but believes nothing.

When Mr Koh added that Glynn's family members have reported his "increasing hostility" towards them, Glynn interjected: "The certificate of vaccine regulations do not apply to the living man and I'm well aware of this fact."

"Why have the mask regulations been dropped all over America and Europe? Because they are unconstitutional. I don't get my information from the Straits Times."

He asked if the prosecutor had seen his "sovereign ID", adding that he felt like "a PhD law lecturer dealing with a GCE law student".

He claimed that the police "kidnapped and abducted" him on his daughter's birthday, arresting him a second time at his hotel.

"I hid in the bathroom and I said - I do not consent, I do not comply. They dragged me out of the shower and handcuffed me. I asked them what crime am I accused of committing. Silence," Glynn continued.

He claimed he spent 18 days "being tortured in Changi Prison".

"What kind of justice is this, this is preposterous, and the torts against either living man that have been done against me include two unlawful arrests, two false imprisonments, two trespasses against me. They've stolen my passport, my God-given right to travel," he said.

He added that he understood the law "better than anyone you've ever dealt with before" and demanded to be released and sent back to England with his family, "and let's not have a big fuss and scene over this".

He continued that his defence is "very solid and water-tight" and that the prosecutor "has no control over my legal fiction".

"I will never plead guilty or not guilty. I can't believe this has been going on since the 8th of May," Glynn said.

"It's so straightforward it's so clear that this sham of a case should be dropped."

Siao lang #3 & #4

A woman in the public gallery burst out laughing soon after this, and another woman waved two thumbs up at Glynn.

Judge Tham ordered Glynn to be remanded at IMH for two weeks and return to court on Aug 19.

At this, Glynn raised his voice, saying this is "absolutely outrageous injustice".

"I am disgusted. How can you send an innocent man to prison when he has not been found guilty and the charges do not apply to him ... I am disgusted at how the Singapore judicial system has treated me and my family," he said.

The woman who had raised her thumbs at Glynn clapped very loudly at this point, and the judge reminded her to observe court decorum.

As proceedings wound down, Glynn called to the prosecutor: "Good luck getting into the book of life, Mr Koh. Good luck with that one. How can you say Singapore is a safe country. Police who hunt me down like a pack of wild animals. This is not justice. This is disgusting. I am appalled."

He added that he would be "seeking lawful remedy".

[Lala81]

2 hours ago, Wt_know said:

my mom completed the vaccine with Pfizer

even with vaccination ... i advised my mom DO NOT LEAVE THE HOUSE

she feel like kena "permanent" SHN/QO ...  

stay at home does not work for long term ... else ... covid don't kill but mental exhaustion kill ..  

I'm lucky both my parents/in laws are mostly homebodies. No need to keep go out pak pak zhao 

[Lala81]

54 minutes ago, Didu said:

How difficult is it to fabrcate these plastic cards?  😁

need the red polo tee also.

[bsswan]

1 minute ago, Lala81 said:

need the red polo tee also.

You mean like the same type everybody wears on National Day?

😳

[Lala81]

2 hours ago, inlinesix said:

I was told that it is not considered to be an allergy unless epipen is required.

True or not?

MOH have some guidelines. I just define it based on the guidelines. 

Unfortunately mrna based vaccines really can have these urticaria type of reactions in some people which are considered possible allergic reactions.
Sometimes i also headache, i just define it, log it and let the patient decide. Cos it's hard to predict what happens with 2nd dose.
Same as before or worse? I also don't want to take the blame.

 

 

Edited August 5, 2021 by Lala81

[Volvobrick]

1 hour ago, Tohto said:

I had seen this every Sunday when visiting my parents. 4 to 5 teekey seniors sitting at void decks. No mask,  smoking, talking......

They would tell you:

[Lala81]

2 minutes ago, bsswan said:

You mean like the same type everybody wears on National Day?

😳

It's a red polo tee, not sure if got words at the back cos they are always walking around, so most carry a haversack.

U never see? I see them everyday

[Lala81]

1 hour ago, Tohto said:

My parents are above 80s. They are the earliest seniors batch to get the vaccination since they are staying at AMK. 

My brothers and I encourage them to go for the vaccination once it was announced and immediately registered for them after receiving the invitation letter.

They had been on the yearly flu vaccination and they are not afraid of needles.

Yes it's easier for my parents or in laws cos I've vaccinated them for flu for years already. Haha they no choice. I just jab them 

[Sosaria]

1 hour ago, Tohto said:

I had seen this every Sunday when visiting my parents. 4 to 5 teekey seniors sitting at void decks. No mask,  smoking, talking......

Can't blame elderly only. Go to any shopping mall late night near closing time, you will see groups of food deliverers congregating outside, smoking, chatting, maskless. Police and SDA also won't do much, it's a regular sight until numb already.

[Voodooman]

23 minutes ago, SGMCF328 said:

Really is

Man seen without mask on train remanded at IMH after rant during first day of trial

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/man-seen-without-mask-train-remanded-imh-after-rant-during-first-day-trial-2093146

SINGAPORE: A man who was seen without a mask on a train was ordered by a judge on Thursday (Aug 5) to be remanded at the Institute of Mental Health (IMH) after ranting in court.

The prosecution also pointed out that British national Benjamin Glynn's family and friends had written to them reporting a "marked change of behaviour" in Glynn that was noticeable especially after COVID-19 restrictions set in.

Siao lang #1

Glynn, 40, faces four charges for failing to wear a mask without reasonable excuse, public nuisance and using threatening words towards a public servant.

Throughout the hearing, Glynn repeated that he was a sovereign, living man against whom the charges had no effect. He called the proceedings "preposterous" and "disgusting".

His supporters filled the courtroom, with one woman repeatedly laughing and another clapping loudly when Glynn slammed Singapore's judiciary. Court officers stepped in to stop them at various points.

Thursday was meant to be Glynn's first day of trial, but he insisted he would not be pleading guilty or not guilty as it was "nonsense".

Siao lang #2

The hearing opened with Glynn trying to introduce his legal counsel, a Mr Abdul Rashid Abdul Rahman. He had appeared in court with Glynn previously, but was stopped at the door for improper attire.

Deputy Public Prosecutor Timotheus Koh told the court that the prosecution had performed their checks and confirmed that Mr Abdul Rashid was not an advocate and solicitor of the Supreme Court of Singapore.

Mr Abdul Rashid said he is not, but that he is an "ambassador at large and advocate of Kingdom Filipina Hacienda", and that he was there to defend his "sovereign compatriot".

He said he understood the meaning of the bar, but said "I don't need a licence to practice".

Mr Koh told the court that the prosecution would be making an application for Glynn to be assessed at IMH, to see if he is of unsound mind.

"Prosecution has received a letter from the accused's family and friends or persons purporting to be his family and friends and in this letter, the persons report a marked change of behaviour in the accused's person that was noticeable especially after the COVID restrictions set in," he said.

Given this new information, as well as Glynn's behaviour in court and previous hearings and his choice of counsel, the prosecution said it would be "prudent" to assess Glynn to ensure he is of sound mind and capable of making his defence.

Glynn interrupted at multiple points. He told District Judge Eddy Tham: "I assure you my mind is very sound. Every time I ask you hard questions, you can't answer me, you shoot me down. What law have I broken? I asked you three times the last time, you gave me silence, silence, silence."

He added that he was "wide awake", "enlightened" and researched "everything" but believes nothing.

When Mr Koh added that Glynn's family members have reported his "increasing hostility" towards them, Glynn interjected: "The certificate of vaccine regulations do not apply to the living man and I'm well aware of this fact."

"Why have the mask regulations been dropped all over America and Europe? Because they are unconstitutional. I don't get my information from the Straits Times."

He asked if the prosecutor had seen his "sovereign ID", adding that he felt like "a PhD law lecturer dealing with a GCE law student".

He claimed that the police "kidnapped and abducted" him on his daughter's birthday, arresting him a second time at his hotel.

"I hid in the bathroom and I said - I do not consent, I do not comply. They dragged me out of the shower and handcuffed me. I asked them what crime am I accused of committing. Silence," Glynn continued.

He claimed he spent 18 days "being tortured in Changi Prison".

"What kind of justice is this, this is preposterous, and the torts against either living man that have been done against me include two unlawful arrests, two false imprisonments, two trespasses against me. They've stolen my passport, my God-given right to travel," he said.

He added that he understood the law "better than anyone you've ever dealt with before" and demanded to be released and sent back to England with his family, "and let's not have a big fuss and scene over this".

He continued that his defence is "very solid and water-tight" and that the prosecutor "has no control over my legal fiction".

"I will never plead guilty or not guilty. I can't believe this has been going on since the 8th of May," Glynn said.

"It's so straightforward it's so clear that this sham of a case should be dropped."

Siao lang #3 & #4

A woman in the public gallery burst out laughing soon after this, and another woman waved two thumbs up at Glynn.

Judge Tham ordered Glynn to be remanded at IMH for two weeks and return to court on Aug 19.

At this, Glynn raised his voice, saying this is "absolutely outrageous injustice".

"I am disgusted. How can you send an innocent man to prison when he has not been found guilty and the charges do not apply to him ... I am disgusted at how the Singapore judicial system has treated me and my family," he said.

The woman who had raised her thumbs at Glynn clapped very loudly at this point, and the judge reminded her to observe court decorum.

As proceedings wound down, Glynn called to the prosecutor: "Good luck getting into the book of life, Mr Koh. Good luck with that one. How can you say Singapore is a safe country. Police who hunt me down like a pack of wild animals. This is not justice. This is disgusting. I am appalled."

He added that he would be "seeking lawful remedy".

Covid restrictions make people siao or Covid restrictions just lure out all the hidden and repressed madness to surface? 

[Arogab]

10 minutes ago, Voodooman said:

Covid restrictions make people siao or Covid restrictions just lure out all the hidden and repressed madness to surface? 

Yah, need to do some other thing or if not there will be many siao lang around. So I think better to open up a bit more rather than lock all, I think people just have to be more responsible than just wait for gov or vaccination

[Chongster]

1 hour ago, Voodooman said:

Out of the 1 million unvaccinated, around 500k (10% of population) are probably below age of 12, whose symptoms are typically mild based on current data. So technically we will be almost 90% vaccinated for those eligible by Sep. 

I really don't think herd immunity from infection can be achieved, based on latest report that vaccination does not stop transmission and with vaccination, we will have a lot of asymptomatic carriers.  It is scary to think what will happen to the remaining 500k that cannot be vaccinated or choose to achieve immunity through infection. That is the ugly truth and I hope I am wrong. 

Yeah that’s what I was thinking,  if we go endemic with a virus this  virulent, and assuming 1% get very sick or die, we are sacrificing 5000 people.  Hard choices