Mayhem in Afghanistan after US troops evacuate, 2021

[Jamesc]

US made a mess of this!

They should have used drones instead of soldiers to guard Afghanistan.

All the soldiers can be safe in Nevada remote control the drones to shoot the Talibans.

[Sturtles]

1 hour ago, Macrosszero said:

It would be quite ironic if the US ends up working with the Taliban if Biden wants to make good on his statement to hunt down the perpetrators of the suicide bombing. 

US has always got this prodigious position, of which allies of today, can become their enemy, and any mortal fiend today can become their heartfelt ally tomorrow.

UK,Germany,Japan,Pakistan,Mujahideen,Iran,Iraq and now the Talibans.

Dovish gestures were made to Russia, but time is not yet ripe.. probably when there is no more strong man rule, Russia and US will become chummy bedfellows

[Beregond]

43 minutes ago, Ho2786 said:

why attack rats leaving a ship ?

a cornered rat will fight back.

 

I abit confused. 

Which rats are u refering  to that is being attack now🤔

😂

[Beregond]

https://www.nzz.ch/english/kabuls-fall-shows-that-the-west-cant-save-the-world-ld.1641437?fbclid=IwAR0w00Q9BEtSI6OdnRqtZ5MWAK5MF6_8jatUVMNMkUXZa14eJsvoQbOmGPE

NZZ Neue Zürcher Zeitung

The Afghanistan debacle's most important lesson: The West cannot save the world

[Nolicense]

19 minutes ago, Beregond said:

https://www.nzz.ch/english/kabuls-fall-shows-that-the-west-cant-save-the-world-ld.1641437?fbclid=IwAR0w00Q9BEtSI6OdnRqtZ5MWAK5MF6_8jatUVMNMkUXZa14eJsvoQbOmGPE

NZZ Neue Zürcher Zeitung

The Afghanistan debacle's most important lesson: The West cannot save the world

what rubbish.. saving the world is about climate change. lol... and the lesson is still the same. the west are the highest polluters per capita 

[Jamesc]

47 minutes ago, Sturtles said:

Russia and US will become chummy bedfellows

and team up against China.

Nostradamus say one.

[Beregond]

5 minutes ago, Nolicense said:

what rubbish.. saving the world is about climate change. lol... and the lesson is still the same. the west are the highest polluters per capita 

just to read nia.

i dun agree with all the content also.

for example the writer assume usa stay there to save Afghanistan? he think too nobly .

look at 5:06 . some bro mention this also.

 

[t0y0ta]

42 minutes ago, Beregond said:

just to read nia.

i dun agree with all the content also.

for example the writer assume usa stay there to save Afghanistan? he think too nobly .

look at 5:06 . some bro mention this also.

 

USA was there to help its military complex grow rich

[Vinyl]

38 minutes ago, happy_man said:

I learn that US's MIC is the largest benefactor from the 20-year occupation of Afghanistan by US and NATO. Today, we see the payback time with far biggerrepercussion to US credibility not just in the region, but globally and domestically.  Eisenhower's 1961 warning has COME TRUE !.

LA Times (Aug 2021) The Only Winner in Afghanistan was America’s Military Industrial Complex

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-08-16/afghanistan-war-military-industrial-complex

 

Oh it's the forum and opinions from the public. I thought which MSM journalist got the balls to openly voice out the truth.

[Macrosszero]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-meets-with-taliban-stepping-up-as-u-s-exits-afghanistan-11627492777

China's July meeting with the Taliban has perhaps shaped their foreign policy and posturing, it feels like the Taliban were made to realize that their impending victory should be tempered with reasonable but firm behaviour to establish themselves as a rightful and respectable government. Of course, there are still atrocities being committed, but it is not as though the AMDKs are innocent of that either. 

[Kb27]

Afghanistan's Uyghurs fear the Taliban, and China more

Earlier this week, as the dust began to settle on the Taliban's blistering takeover of Afghanistan, a small group gathered at a house in the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif. The guests arrived discreetly, in ones and twos, keen to avoid attention.

They were elders from the city's Uyghur community, plus some family members and others who joined from different cities via Skype. The mood in the house was fearful. There was only one topic of conversation: escape.

A middle aged man began making calls to activists in Turkey, seeking help. One didn't answer. Another one who did pick up said he would do everything he could for them, but right now there was not much he could do.

The group urged the man calling to keep trying, keep making more calls, but there was no good news. Eventually, after nightfall, the guests left, as carefully as they had arrived, even more despondent than before.

"We have no one to help us right now," one told the BBC after the meeting. "We are terrified," he said. "Everyone is terrified."

Like millions of other Afghans, the country's Uyghurs are waking up to a different reality this week, one in which the Taliban is in charge. Like other Afghans, the Uyghurs fear a worse existence under the Taliban. But they also fear something else: greater influence for China.

There are about 12 million Uyghurs in China, concentrated in the northwestern Xinjiang province. Since 2017, they and other Muslim minorities have been subjected to a state campaign of mass detention, surveillance, forced labour, and, according to some accounts, sterilisation, torture and rape. China routinely denies all human rights abuses in Xinjiang, and says its camps are vocational centres designed to combat extremism.

Many of Afghanistan's Uyghurs - thought to number about 2,000 - are second generation immigrants whose parents fled China many decades ago, long before the current crackdown began. But their Afghan ID cards still say "Uyghur" or "Chinese refugee", and they fear that if China enters the vacuum left by the US, they could be targeted.

"That is the biggest fear for Uyghurs in Afghanistan now," said a Uyghur man in his fifties in Kabul, who said his family had not left their house since the Taliban took power. "We fear the Taliban will help China control our movements, or they will arrest us and hand us over to China," he said.

All the Uyghurs in Afghanistan who spoke to the BBC said they had been effectively hiding at home since the Taliban seized the country, communicating only occasionally by phone.

"We are like a living dead people now," said another Uyghur man in Kabul. "Too scared even to go outside."

A father in Mazar-i-Sharif described hiding in the house with his wife, children and extended family.

"It's been 10 days now sitting at home, our lives are on hold," he said. "It is written clearly on our ID cards that we are Uyghur."

[Fitvip]

Just received clips of mass executions. Damn gross!

 

[Playtime]

1 hour ago, Macrosszero said:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-meets-with-taliban-stepping-up-as-u-s-exits-afghanistan-11627492777

China's July meeting with the Taliban has perhaps shaped their foreign policy and posturing, it feels like the Taliban were made to realize that their impending victory should be tempered with reasonable but firm behaviour to establish themselves as a rightful and respectable government. Of course, there are still atrocities being committed, but it is not as though the AMDKs are innocent of that either. 

If America greeted ww2 Japanese victory in China the same.🤔

[Sturtles]

1 hour ago, Playtime said:

If America greeted ww2 Japanese victory in China the same.🤔

If Japan at that time was an allied nation, for sure there would be heaps of greetings

When Macau and Hongkong was given to the west as war reparations, am sure the Europeans were contemplating how to carve out even more of China for their King and Country

It’s all about what’s in it for them. Even now

Edited August 27, 2021 by Sturtles

[Nolicense]

5 minutes ago, Sturtles said:

If Japan at that time was an allied nation, for sure there would be heaps of greetings

When Macau and Hongkong was given to the west as war reparations, am sure the Europeans were contemplating how to carve out even more of China for their King and Country

It’s all about what’s in it for them. Even now

very true. dont know why people still dont see that

[Volvobrick]

9 hours ago, Macrosszero said:

It would be quite ironic if the US ends up working with the Taliban if Biden wants to make good on his statement to hunt down the perpetrators of the suicide bombing. 

Many of US's ex enemies become allies. No permanent friends or enemies, only permanent interests. 

I won't be surprised they are already working together on this secretly. 

[Scion]

 

this guy is quite credible and makes excellent videos one

[Yewheng]

31 minutes ago, Scion said:

 

this guy is quite credible and makes excellent videos one

But if those that are not working with the US should be safe right?