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ST (15 Sep 2021)US Top General Secretly Called China over Fears Trump Could Spark War

 

WASHINGTON (REUTERS) - The US top general secretly called his Chinese counterpart twice last year over concerns then-president Donald Trump could spark a war with China as his potential election loss loomed and in its aftermath, the Washington Post reported on Tuesday (Sept 14).

US General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called General Li Zuocheng of the People's Liberation Army on Oct 30, 2020 - four days before the presidential election - and again on Jan 8, two days after Trump supporters led a deadly riot at the US Capitol, the paper reported.

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/us-top-general-secretly-called-china-over-fears-trump-could-spark-war-report

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11 minutes ago, happy_man said:

ST (15 Sep 2021)US Top General Secretly Called China over Fears Trump Could Spark War

 

WASHINGTON (REUTERS) - The US top general secretly called his Chinese counterpart twice last year over concerns then-president Donald Trump could spark a war with China as his potential election loss loomed and in its aftermath, the Washington Post reported on Tuesday (Sept 14).

US General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called General Li Zuocheng of the People's Liberation Army on Oct 30, 2020 - four days before the presidential election - and again on Jan 8, two days after Trump supporters led a deadly riot at the US Capitol, the paper reported.

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/us-top-general-secretly-called-china-over-fears-trump-could-spark-war-report

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Trump was too impulsive and muddle-headed sometimes.
Sometimes he did things without due consideration.[mad]

Trump secret memo ordering withdrawal from Afghanistan blindsided national security team

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/14/politics/woodward-costa-book-trump-afghanistan-memo/index.html

Washington (CNN)Just eight days after the 2020 election, then-President Donald Trump was so determined to end the war in Afghanistan during his presidency that he secretly signed a memo to withdraw all troops by January 15, 2021, according to a new book, "Peril," from journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa.

The November 11 memo, according to the authors, had been secretly drafted by two Trump loyalists and never went through the normal process for a military directive -- the secretary of defense, national security adviser and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs had all never seen it. Unpredictable, impulsive, Trump had done an end run around his whole national security team.

In a remarkable scene, the authors write, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark Milley, newly appointed acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller and his new chief of staff Kash Patel were all blindsided when the memo arrived at the Pentagon.

Woodward and Costa reproduced the memo in "Peril." The directive was titled, "Memorandum for the Acting Secretary of Defense: Withdrawal from Somalia and Afghanistan," and the memo read: "I hereby direct you to withdraw all US forces from the Federal Republic of Somalia no later than 31 December 2020 and from the Islamic Republican of Afghanistan no later than 15 January 2021. Inform all allied and partner forces of the directives. Please confirm receipt of this order."

Milley studied the memo and announced he was heading to the White House to confront Trump.

"This is really f**ked up and I'm going to see the President. I'm heading over. You guys can come or not," Milley told Miller and Patel, who joined him on the trip across the Potomac, according to the book.

At the White House, the three men paid a surprise visit to national security adviser Robert O'Brien and showed him the signed memo.

"How did this happen?" Milley asked O'Brien, according to the book. "Was there any process here at all? How does a president do this?"

O'Brien looked at the memo and said, "I have no idea," according to the authors.

"What do you mean you have no idea? You're the national security adviser to the President?" Milley responded. "And the secretary of defense didn't know about this? And the chief of staff to the secretary of defense didn't know about this? The chairman didn't know. How the hell does this happen?"

O'Brien took the memo and left. While the officials had briefly debated whether the memo could be a forgery, Trump confirmed to O'Brien that he had signed it.

"Mr. President, you've got to have a meeting with the principals," O'Brien told Trump, according to the book, which Trump agreed to do and the directive was withdrawn.

It was "effectively a rogue memo and had no standing," Woodward and Costa write. "All right," O'Brien said when he returned to his office. "We've already taken care of this. It was a mistake. The memo was nullified."

But the signed rogue memo undercuts the argument that Trump and some of his allies, including Miller, have recently made that Trump never really planned to get out or would have planned the withdrawal better than President Joe Biden.

"If I were now President, the world would find that our withdrawal from Afghanistan would be a conditions-based withdrawal," Trump said in a statement last month as the Taliban closed in on Kabul. "I personally had discussions with top Taliban leaders whereby they understood what they are doing now would not have been acceptable."

Axios' Jonathan Swan and Zachary Basu reported in May that the memo had been drafted by two Trump loyalists who should not have been involved in the process -- Johnny McEntee, the former body man who Trump had named head of White House personnel, and controversial retired Lt. Col. Douglas Macgregor, who had just been appointed as an adviser to Miller.

Woodward and Costa write in "Peril" that the memo was also one of the reasons Milley was concerned Trump could go rogue after the November election, and prompted Milley after the January 6 insurrection to take steps to try to limit Trump from launching military strikes or nuclear weapons unless he was consulted.

Eventually, Milley, Miller and Patel left the White House. They never saw the President that day, but after the January 6 assault on the Capitol, Woodward and Costa write that Milley "felt no absolute certainty that the military could control or trust Trump." Milley "believed it was his job as the senior military officer to think the unthinkable, take any and all necessary precautions."

 

 

 

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Hypersonic

Chong for what

that time say Gurkha hero one man bullet use finish use knife Cheong 100 fighters also like that what 

Cheong lai Cheong kee, mati is trooper, big people son got Cheong?

maybe only England price got lah

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2 minutes ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

Biden likely to go war

I watch on TikTok.. Trump seem the only one din go war and grew the US economy n employment rate.. but got booted out... seem pretty much like our north country.. u no rub me i don support you..

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3 minutes ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

Biden likely to go war

The sad reality is Biden was already fighting a domestic (civil?) war just to be officially declared as POTUS in 1st week of 2021.

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Supercharged

With the way Biden is going. Does it mean it will not spark any fire?

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Supersonic

Well, it is no longer a secret. But more of an embarrassment.

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Supersonic

biden might not even finish this 4 years.

he just fall asleep during a 1 v 1 meeting with israel leader.😐

 

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19 minutes ago, Beregond said:

biden might not even finish this 4 years.he just fall asleep during a 1 v 1 meeting with israel leader.😐

If I am Biden, the most fearful thing is not about losing the next election, but Trump can make a come back to the White House in 2024.

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1 minute ago, happy_man said:

If I am Biden, the most fearful thing is not about losing the next election, but Trump can make a come back to the White House in 2024.

not easy for trump to make a come back if he is shut out in social media .

i didnt see any trump news in FB liao, cos he still banned. other US social media is he active there? i dun know. cos i dun have acc also . lol

unless he really come out with his own apps. or maybe he need to use ticktok to get to the ppl 😆

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26 minutes ago, Beregond said:

biden might not even finish this 4 years.

he just fall asleep during a 1 v 1 meeting with israel leader.😐

 

The fellow or fellows who arranged the meeting during sleepy joe siasta time won't lust 4 years...😁

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25 minutes ago, Beregond said:

biden might not even finish this 4 years.

he just fall asleep during a 1 v 1 meeting with israel leader.😐

 

 

4 minutes ago, happy_man said:

If I am Biden, the most fearful thing is not about losing the next election, but Trump can make a come back to the White House in 2024.

 

1 minute ago, Beregond said:

not easy for trump to make a come back if he is shut out in social media .

i didnt see any trump news in FB liao, cos he still banned. other US social media is he active there? i dun know. cos i dun have acc also . lol

unless he really come out with his own apps. or maybe he need to use ticktok to get to the ppl 😆

For any of the 2, they are getting old and I see they cannot match up physically. At least XJP is much younger at 68 if I am not wrong. 

Biden is already 78. He looks weak compare to Lao Ma. My opinion is better don't die on the job. Haha

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5 minutes ago, Beregond said:

not easy for trump to make a come back if he is shut out in social media .

i didnt see any trump news in FB liao, cos he still banned. other US social media is he active there? i dun know. cos i dun have acc also . lol

unless he really come out with his own apps. or maybe he need to use ticktok to get to the ppl 😆

hmm? Trump has more or less taken over the republican party now in terms of popular support.
It's hard to get elected as a governor, congressman unless u support Trump.

 

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Just now, Arogab said:

 

 

For any of the 2, they are getting old and I see they cannot match up physically. At least XJP is much younger at 68 if I am not wrong. 

Biden is already 78. He looks weak compare to Lao Ma. My opinion is better don't die on the job. Haha

i think usa need a young leader next round or a lady next round , look at europe now. alot of their leader are young guys and young lady. doing quite well, 

sticking to old man with old ideals is not getting them any where .....

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2 minutes ago, Arogab said:

For any of the 2, they are getting old and I see they cannot match up physically. At least XJP is much younger at 68 if I am not wrong. 

Biden is already 78. He looks weak compare to Lao Ma. My opinion is better don't die on the job. Haha

I don't worry for Biden as there is a clear succession plan with US Constitution.

I am worried about XJP. He better be long live.

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Just now, Beregond said:

i think usa need a young leader next round or a lady next round , look at europe now. alot of their leader are young guys and young lady. doing quite well, 

sticking to old man with old ideals is not getting them any where .....

I not think USA. I think the world after WW2 has come to a point when you have 1 big brother and then now have another one coming up from 2nd big brother and a few more from 3rd big brothers......

Just wondering if one big brother will conquer and sustain or the brothers will start a fight. I hope by the time I retire and boh chap. The situation does not change much. But not possible I think, looking at the way things speeding up

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4 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

I don't worry for Biden as there is a clear succession plan with US Constitution.

I am worried about XJP. He better be long live.

XJP got another 10 years at least from what I see. 

How about Biden? Who is upcoming, I not really see or I just not observant

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