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Porsche Is One Step Closer To Producing Synthetic Fuel

This could save the combustion engine.

With new combustion car sales being banned within the next decade to lower global emissions, many automakers are switching to EVs. Porsche has already started embracing electrification with the Taycan and will launch an electric version of the Macan next year. At the same time, the German automaker is also fighting to save the combustion engine.

Last year, Porsche announced a partnership with Siemens Energy to develop a new, almost carbon-neutral synthetic fuel that will extend the life of the combustion engine. After all, the bans will only apply to new combustion car sales, so millions of gas-powered cars will still be on the road polluting the environment. Now, Porsche is one step closer to producing synthetic fuel as construction of the Haru Oni manufacturing plant near Punta Arenas, Chile, where the synthetic fuel will be produced, has begun.

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Porsche plans to start producing synthetic fuel at the plant next year. Initially, the plant will produce 34,000 gallons of synthetic fuel in 2022, before increasing to 14.5 million gallons by 2024 and 145 million gallons by 2026 at a cost of around $7.6 per gallon.

"Porsche was founded with pioneering spirit. That's what drives us, we thrive on innovation. We also see ourselves as pioneers when it comes to renewable fuels, and we want to drive development forward. This fits in with our clear overall sustainability strategy," said Michael Steiner, Member of the Executive Board for Research and Development at Porsche. "It means that Porsche as a whole can be net CO2 neutral as early as 2030. Fuels produced with renewable energy can make a contribution to this."

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Steiner adds that the Porsche 911 is "particularly suited to the use of eFuels," which will help keep classic Porsche cars on the road without requiring any mechanical modifications. You might not need to convert your classic Porsche 911 into an electric restomod just yet, then. However, the synthetic fuel will initially be used in Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup race cars from 2022.

Producing synthetic fuel will be a complicated process. Using wind power, electrolysers split water into oxygen and hydrogen. CO2 is then filtered from the air and combined with the hydrogen to produce synthetic methanol, which is then is converted into eFuel. Porsche is confident the e-Fuel will reduce carbon emissions in combustion engines by up to 90 percent.

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Rejoice! This is a good news for all of the gasoline car out there! 😃

 

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Supersonic (edited)

Could it be in the form of methane fuel cells?

Most combustible fuel are hydrocarbons which has the Hydrogen atoms and Carbon atoms.

Methane has the lowest carbon amongst the other hydrocarbon fuel. I mean to produce the least CO2 after combustion...and water or H2O of course. https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Hydrocarbon

FYI octane is C8H18 (from the same link).

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And sure enough there is a recent break thru in methane fuel cells.

https://www.machinedesign.com/materials/article/21837280/breakthrough-fuel-cell-runs-on-methane-at-practical-temperatures

Breakthrough Fuel Cell Runs on Methane at Practical Temperatures

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How to produce methane?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabatier_reaction <-- "Creation of synthetic natural gas"

The process is electrolysis of water by electricity to create hydrogen (which can partly be used directly in fuel cells) and the addition of carbon dioxide CO2 (Sabatier process) to create methane.

So it is very similar to producing hydrogen fuel cells.

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But come to think of it we are already using it in the form of CNG. It is 90%+ methane.

And this is synthetic natural gas. So this is man made and not harvest from underground?

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1 hour ago, Watwheels said:

Whoa, the up and coming oil cartel.😂

US will go and raid Porsche anot. 🤣

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Turbocharged

Germans good at producing synthetic fuel. During WW2 they made fuel from coal. 

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Turbocharged

Good if it works, but i'm immune to all these technological marvels game-changers that get discarded after a few years.

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17 minutes ago, Karoon said:

Good if it works, but i'm immune to all these technological marvels game-changers that get discarded after a few years.

LPG was one of them.. 🙄

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Supersonic

This is to keep classic Porsche running in the era of EV.

It will not be cheap

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Hypersonic

What so hard?

Even my MIL also can make synthetic fuel.

She makes methane.

Everyday.

:D

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12 minutes ago, Jamesc said:

What so hard?

Even my MIL also can make synthetic fuel.

She makes methane.

Everyday.

:D

Thats bio not syn

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Turbocharged

$7.60 per gallon. How much will it cost at the pump?

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1 hour ago, Fitvip said:

$7.60 per gallon. How much will it cost at the pump?

Thats production cost in usd for like 3.3L.

Convert to sgd, include transport, storage, etc and most important taxes... can forget it lah. Maybe porsche drivers also can't afford. Only RR owners. 

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39 minutes ago, Karoon said:

Thats production cost in usd for like 3.3L.

Convert to sgd, include transport, storage, etc and most important taxes... can forget it lah. Maybe porsche drivers also can't afford. Only RR owners. 

That’s why I said it is to keep classic Porsche running in the era of EV

it is 3.875L

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30 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

That’s why I said it is to keep classic Porsche running in the era of EV

it is 3.875L

Long time more before it happens. The same yada yada I heard in primary school about the world running out of oil. 

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49 minutes ago, Mkl22 said:

Long time more before it happens. The same yada yada I heard in primary school about the world running out of oil. 

That’s the plan in view of upcoming ban on sales of ICE car

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If EV can solve the charging time  limitation and make the  battery recycle  more green, it will still be the most viable solution.  Enthusiasts who want to make it sound like a Ferrari can add on with a set of good loud speaker. Those who want to feel the gear change jerk can be resolved by adding AI to jerk the electric  motor  to emulate gear change,  maybe can add on a software driven gear stick complete  with a clutch to make an EV feels like  a manul. 🤣🤣🤣

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