Bacteria83 Turbocharged September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 When I become fat blame the chicken rice stall, fast food chain and all the nice food. There must be agenda against me from someone higher up 🧐 ↡ Advertisement 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 17 hours ago, kobayashiGT said: The morale of the story is . . . 三個臭皮匠,勝過一個諸葛亮. . . Not saying Lim Tean is zhu geliang ah. hahahhaha. It simply means that as long as you owe people money, you can never 100% hold your head up high. Muayhahaha 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 33 minutes ago, Mustank said: I thought Jman say one? [Edit sorry read Jman post wrongly] I say 'if' lah 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 39 minutes ago, Kar_lover said: The cheque payee is a "normal" private limited company based in a residential address....i guess should not be considered freelance? freelancer usually set up a company for their services, many tax benefits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 Pay and pay why pay so don’t pay https://www.fox10tv.com/news/us_world_news/video-contractor-destroys-renovated-bathroom-with-sledgehammer-after-payment-dispute/article_2793d649-2dcb-57b3-ae8a-9caddc74fefa.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash2017 Twincharged September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 The difference between the haves and have nots. The have nots kena con by haves - no recourse, no money to sue or find a lawyer (because seeking the latter often cost thousands). The haves kena con by haves or have nots - can arrange for "someone" to persuade you to pay or legal recourse. Just like how property agents describe these bomb shelters Penthouse condo - bomb shelters are called as home shelters HDB - bomb shelters are called as bomb shelters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeniz Turbocharged September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 (edited) okok. I agree that a politician must have credibility and be able keep to his words. Owe $ must pay $. If not, it is really outrageous. I invite another guy to carry out his orange box and pail to send LT the message. Edited September 22, 2021 by Albeniz 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitvip Supersonic September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 @Kar_lover Just don't live stream! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=239425531446084&ref=watch_permalink&t=2 Another debt chasing FB Live. 🤣 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kar_lover Supercharged September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Fitvip said: @Kar_lover Just don't live stream! Nowadays people dress up as clowns as "marketing" so why not livestream? Although actually i think it is against the law (PDPA) to live stream. If LT is worth his salt as a lawyer he can lodge a complaint or sue them.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kar_lover Supercharged September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Jman888 said: freelancer usually set up a company for their services, many tax benefits Ya but if you setup a company then by definition not freelancer already.... "A freelancer is an independent laborer who earns wages on a per-job or per-task basis, typically for short-term work. Benefits of freelancing include having the freedom to work from home, a flexible work schedule, and a better work-life balance." So if you have a COMPANY then it is the COMPANY that is being engaged by the client to do the work and the person who does the work, even if he is the owner, is the employee/worker of the company.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kar_lover said: Ya but if you setup a company then by definition not freelancer already.... "A freelancer is an independent laborer who earns wages on a per-job or per-task basis, typically for short-term work. Benefits of freelancing include having the freedom to work from home, a flexible work schedule, and a better work-life balance." So if you have a COMPANY then it is the COMPANY that is being engaged by the client to do the work and the person who does the work, even if he is the owner, is the employee/worker of the company.... but if the company is under sole proprietorship. the boss can be consider freelander also? for example a pro photographer set up a company , and he is the only guy work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arogab Turbocharged September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, kobayashiGT said: https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=239425531446084&ref=watch_permalink&t=2 Another debt chasing FB Live. 🤣 6 minutes ago, Kar_lover said: Nowadays people dress up as clowns as "marketing" so why not livestream? Although actually i think it is against the law (PDPA) to live stream. If LT is worth his salt as a lawyer he can lodge a complaint or sue them.... These are now the in thing people do huh? Nobody is as traditional as @Jamesc🤣 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kar_lover Supercharged September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Beregond said: but if the company is under sole proprietorship. the boss can be consider freelander also? for example a pro photographer set up a company , and he is the only guy work My understanding is a sole proprietor (SP) is NOT a company. And to what i know an SP cannot be a sharedholder of a company because an SP is not a legal entity in itself. It is a business (generic term of any one or any entity carrying out a business), but it is not a company. Same as partnerships (incl LLPs) which are not companies either. Companies only have 2 types, private limited and limited (i.e. public listed). Their liabilities do not extend to the individual owners (shareholders) behind the companies. Whereas for SP (and partnership), liability is not limited. https://www.acra.gov.sg/how-to-guides/starting-sole-proprietorships/what-is-a-sole-proprietorship As for your photographer example, if he sets up a private limited company, and he is the only person, it is still a company and he is not considered a freelancer. A freelancer takes jobs directly under his own name. In this case, the client is engaging the company (even if he is the only shareholder and worker). The contract signed by the client is with the company, not the photographer himself. If anything goes wrong, the liabilities and losses go only as far as the company's assets, not the photographer's own personal assets. Edited September 22, 2021 by Kar_lover 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Throttle2 said: It simply means that as long as you owe people money, you can never 100% hold your head up high. Muayhahaha Technically every one who earns money is always in debt, since the taxman always wants his share, and most pay by GIRO not in a lumpsum up front. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, Kar_lover said: My understanding is a sole proprietor (SP) is NOT a company. And to what i know an SP cannot be a sharedholder of a company because an SP is not a legal entity in itself. It is a business (generic term of any one or any entity carrying out a business), but it is not a company. Same as partnerships (incl LLPs) which are not companies either. Companies only have 2 types, private limited and limited (i.e. public listed). Their liabilities do not extend to the individual owners (shareholders) behind the companies. Whereas for SP (and partnership), liability is not limited. https://www.acra.gov.sg/how-to-guides/starting-sole-proprietorships/what-is-a-sole-proprietorship As for your photographer example, if he sets up a private limited company, and he is the only person, it is still a company and he is not considered a freelancer. A freelancer takes jobs directly under his own name. In this case, the client is engaging the company (even if he is the only shareholder and worker). The contract signed by the client is with the company, not the photographer himself. If anything goes wrong, the liabilities and losses go only as far as the company's assets, not the photographer's own personal assets. oh ok , u clear alot of my doubt. but what about this case. those car workshop and tyres shop. normally about 5 ppl working. most of them are sole proprietorship. this should be consider a company right??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kar_lover Supercharged September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Beregond said: oh ok , u clear alot of my doubt. but what about this case. those car workshop and tyres shop. normally about 5 ppl working. most of them are sole proprietorship. this should be consider a company right??? Can be either or can even be LLP. Some of the big ones (like stamford tyres which is public listed) are definitely companies but smaller ones might be SP or even LLP. Most people prefer to incorporate as a company to limit their liability. But for certain forms of businesses like lawyers, somehow partnerships suit them better. Perhaps it is because they can offer partnership status to worthy lawyers. By the way, I can be an SP of a tyre shop and still hire people to work for me. Doesn't mean i have 5 or even 10 workers means i am automatically a "company". A company is one where it is incorporated under The Companies Act and has certain requirements to meet under the Act. So those running a simple business with little risk of high liabilities may prefer an SP model so as not to make things difficult. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator September 22, 2021 Share September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Arogab said: These are now the in thing people do huh? Nobody is as traditional as @Jamesc🤣 Everybody in today world want fame. hahaha. Even as a debt collector. 🤣 ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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