Kopites Supersonic October 14, 2021 Share October 14, 2021 (edited) Another disaster in Taiwan!😱 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58887760 At least 46 people have been killed and dozens more seriously injured in a fire at a 13-storey tower block in southern Taiwan, officials say. Edited October 14, 2021 by Kopites ↡ Advertisement 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic October 14, 2021 Author Share October 14, 2021 (edited) Edited October 14, 2021 by Kopites 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic October 14, 2021 Author Share October 14, 2021 Wrong section should be non car related. Apologies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged October 14, 2021 Share October 14, 2021 Partially abandoned building yet still occupied. Hope we will never reach such a stage here. My observation is those HDB shop units stack to the brim, including the upper unit meant for resident also act as storage. Covered walkway filled till pedestrians have to walk on the road. Somehow so many authorities personnel walked pass nobody notice. HDB even draw boxes for them to place more items. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic October 15, 2021 Author Share October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Victor68 said: Partially abandoned building yet still occupied. Hope we will never reach such a stage here. My observation is those HDB shop units stack to the brim, including the upper unit meant for resident also act as storage. Covered walkway filled till pedestrians have to walk on the road. Somehow so many authorities personnel walked pass nobody notice. HDB even draw boxes for them to place more items. As for Taiwan case the fatality number is shocking. Near 50 dead?😱 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitvip Supersonic October 15, 2021 Share October 15, 2021 I wonder why they abandoned the lower 6 levels since a fire in 1999, and had the upper floors occupied?! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitvip Supersonic October 15, 2021 Share October 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Victor68 said: Partially abandoned building yet still occupied. Hope we will never reach such a stage here. My observation is those HDB shop units stack to the brim, including the upper unit meant for resident also act as storage. Covered walkway filled till pedestrians have to walk on the road. Somehow so many authorities personnel walked pass nobody notice. HDB even draw boxes for them to place more items. Hopefully this type of case does not happen here. I was told by a fire safety trainer that our buildings are compartmentalised, meaning if thete is a fire, it will not spread to the neighbouring units. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator October 15, 2021 Share October 15, 2021 "The building's lower section had once housed restaurants, karaoke bars and a cinema, but these were reportedly no longer in use. A number of residents in the block of about 120 apartments are thought to be old or to have disabilities." The upper floor for the old and disable resident, Kaohsiung is known to be 又老有穷 place among whole Taiwan. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic October 15, 2021 Share October 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, Jman888 said: "The building's lower section had once housed restaurants, karaoke bars and a cinema, but these were reportedly no longer in use. A number of residents in the block of about 120 apartments are thought to be old or to have disabilities." The upper floor for the old and disable resident, Kaohsiung is known to be 又老有穷 place among whole Taiwan. Thought kaoshiung is top 2 or 3 city in taiwan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic October 15, 2021 Share October 15, 2021 Taiwan fire safety seems to be always not good. When visiting there, I don't dare to book those hotels that has no window in the room. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged October 15, 2021 Share October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Fitvip said: Hopefully this type of case does not happen here. I was told by a fire safety trainer that our buildings are compartmentalised, meaning if thete is a fire, it will not spread to the neighbouring units. Ture but it will only works when you don't block the opening of the compartmentalisation and prevent it from closing. The way we cramp up the space, even the fire shutter won't be able to close properly. Don't forget, HDB has only 1 exit stair case. Safety vs Business, till something happen, people tends to just focus on $ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitvip Supersonic October 15, 2021 Share October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Victor68 said: Ture but it will only works when you don't block the opening of the compartmentalisation and prevent it from closing. The way we cramp up the space, even the fire shutter won't be able to close properly. Don't forget, HDB has only 1 exit stair case. Safety vs Business, till something happen, people tends to just focus on $ I think you are referring to those point blocks which has only one staircase. Slab blocks or mixed blocks have more than one. But then, it depends on where the fire starts. To developers, profit means everything. That is why Pasir Ris One's corridors are only barely 1.2 m wide! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged October 15, 2021 Share October 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, Fitvip said: I think you are referring to those point blocks which has only one staircase. Slab blocks or mixed blocks have more than one. But then, it depends on where the fire starts. To developers, profit means everything. That is why Pasir Ris One's corridors are only barely 1.2 m wide! All private apartments have to meet with 2 fire escape staircases with transfer floor. When you have 1.2 m, and doors that open into the escape corridor, not to mention shoe racks and flower pots. All these still cannot beat the HDB shop units that pack to the brim included the corridor apaces. NTUC in HDB block is a very classic example. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged October 15, 2021 Share October 15, 2021 1 minute ago, happy_man said: Every city has its own poorer population. What is odd is the building isn't very old - just 40 years. Some of our 1970s HDB are in better condition than many of the residential housing in TW. One of Singapore strength is having the BMSMA and HDB has their own code 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arogab Turbocharged October 15, 2021 Share October 15, 2021 Very near my friend's place. he told me last night, this building tenants all never follow the law one. Just one comment. They don't feel anything leh. They just go on with life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitvip Supersonic October 16, 2021 Share October 16, 2021 20 hours ago, Victor68 said: One of Singapore strength is having the BMSMA and HDB has their own code For this , we have to give credit to the eh dee bee! Every 5 years once. But the quality has dropped a lot!😥Fallen wall tiles are replaced with cement!😥 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanM 2nd Gear October 16, 2021 Share October 16, 2021 20 hours ago, Victor68 said: One of Singapore strength is having the BMSMA and HDB has their own code I used to stay in one of the old HDB point blocks that was near a hawker centre. It only had one staircase and I noticed cooking oil, rice etc was being kept at one nook on the 2nd storey. 😨 Moved out of there as as soon as I could. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged October 16, 2021 Share October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, JanM said: I used to stay in one of the old HDB point blocks that was near a hawker centre. It only had one staircase and I noticed cooking oil, rice etc was being kept at one nook on the 2nd storey. 😨 Moved out of there as as soon as I could. It could have easily solve but just incompetent staff ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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