kobayashiGT Internal Moderator December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 Mazda Amati logo. The initial Amati products would have been the Amati 500 (which became the Mazda Millenia), and the Amati 1000 (a new rear wheel drive V12 successor to the Mazda 929). This never happened, leaving the near-luxury Millenia to the Mazda brand. ↡ Advertisement 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 Ah! Mati already? 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 It is kinda not apple to apple comparison cos afterall those other Japanese brands are car giants with big budgets. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOBIEMKZ Turbocharged December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 29 minutes ago, kobayashiGT said: Mazda Amati logo. The initial Amati products would have been the Amati 500 (which became the Mazda Millenia), and the Amati 1000 (a new rear wheel drive V12 successor to the Mazda 929). This never happened, leaving the near-luxury Millenia to the Mazda brand. I think they are good cars, but let down by poor marketing efforts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzoalec92 2nd Gear December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 Wasn't aware of this, but I know of the Eunos (Cosmo, Roadster AKA Miata AKA MX-5), Autozam (AZ-1) and Efini (RX-7) sub-brands all thanks to Gran Turismo 2 way back in 1999! I've probably wasted spent a good half of my childhood on this game. Hands down, it's still the best Gran Turismo title to date. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator December 7, 2021 Author Share December 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, enzoalec92 said: Wasn't aware of this, but I know of the Eunos (Cosmo, Roadster AKA Miata AKA MX-5), Autozam (AZ-1) and Efini (RX-7) sub-brands all thanks to Gran Turismo 2 way back in 1999! I've probably wasted spent a good half of my childhood on this game. Hands down, it's still the best Gran Turismo title to date. woah the graphic! hahaha. So nostalgia sia. hahahah 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 (edited) not Mazdaspeed meh ... oops ... that's to fight with Type-R, TRD and Nismo .... LOL Edited December 7, 2021 by Wt_know 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inlinefour Twincharged December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 all mati no have rotary engine 😜😜😜😜 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzoalec92 2nd Gear December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Wt_know said: not Mazdaspeed meh ... oops ... that's to fight with Type-R, TRD and Nismo .... LOL I'd say it's more like Mugen rather than Type R, since the latter is a specific model trim rather than an in-house - although not really because Mugen has never been owned by Honda despite it being started by the founder's son - tuner. If you wanna get more obscure, I'd say Spoon, Tom's and Autech are also applicable as factory-supported tuners to the marques you brought up, once again all thanks to the car encyclopedia that was Gran Turismo 2! 🧐 Oh man, I'm way too obsessed with this game! 😂 Edited December 7, 2021 by enzoalec92 Grammar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3badge 6th Gear December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, kobayashiGT said: Mazda Amati logo. The initial Amati products would have been the Amati 500 (which became the Mazda Millenia), and the Amati 1000 (a new rear wheel drive V12 successor to the Mazda 929). This never happened, leaving the near-luxury Millenia to the Mazda brand. I think Acura, infinity and this what Amati? All fail in marketing a distinguish brand equity for their luxury arm. Lexus, they can’t be bother fighting the German on performance, but market Lexus as quality build and finish, comfort and Japanese Takumi for consumer to associate Lexus with. Edited December 7, 2021 by D3badge 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 12 hours ago, kobayashiGT said: Mazda Amati logo. The initial Amati products would have been the Amati 500 (which became the Mazda Millenia), and the Amati 1000 (a new rear wheel drive V12 successor to the Mazda 929). This never happened, leaving the near-luxury Millenia to the Mazda brand. Marketing disaster. They already have many sub brands targeting at different segment, so why the need to create another one (especially against ɛ̃fini)? ɛ̃fini (1991 - 1997) Luxury vehicle division (MS-6, MS-8, MS-9, RX-7, MPV) Eunos (1989 - 1996) Upscale fun to drive line (100, 300, 500, 800, Cosmo, Lantis, Presso, Roadster) Autozam (1989 - 1998) Kei / compact cars (AZ-1, AZ-3, AZ Wagon, Carol, Clef, Revue, Scrum) M2 / Mazda Two (1991 - 1995) Customised part and tuning divison (1001, 1002, 1003, etc.) 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 2 hours ago, D3badge said: I think Acura, infinity and this what Amati? All fail in marketing a distinguish brand equity for their luxury arm. Lexus, they can’t be bother fighting the German on performance, but market Lexus as quality build and finish, comfort and Japanese Takumi for consumer to associate Lexus with. Did you forget LFA LC 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidklt 6th Gear December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 Revive the Mazda 929! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3badge 6th Gear December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, inlinesix said: Did you forget LFA LC 😂 Hahah yeah but the real performance crazy consumers will goes for AMG, BMW M etc as LEXUS won’t be their shopping lists Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 In the 80s & early 90s, the japs were on a roll Toyota = Lexus (still feels like it sometimes) Honda = Acura (badge engineering for the yanks) Datsun = Infiniti (had to do big triple jump, trip & fell along the way) Mitsubishi = tried to jump into bed w Volvo (produced mutant lovechild) Mazda = Amati (ahh....mati liao) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 Just now, D3badge said: Hahah yeah but the real performance crazy consumers will goes for AMG, BMW M etc as LEXUS won’t be their shopping lists That's true. LC500 is one of the last surviving NA V8 in the market now. The next LC500 will be a V6 twin-turbo. Lastly, there are too many ///M & AMG on the road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3badge 6th Gear December 7, 2021 Share December 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, inlinesix said: That's true. LC500 is one of the last surviving NA V8 in the market now. The next LC500 will be a V6 twin-turbo. Lastly, there are too many ///M & AMG on the road. Cars sales of Acura, Infiniti and Lexus in USA from 2006 to 2015….Amati extinction 😅 https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/acura-vs-lexus-vs-infiniti-usa-sales-2006-2015/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator December 7, 2021 Author Share December 7, 2021 8 hours ago, Carbon82 said: Marketing disaster. They already have many sub brands targeting at different segment, so why the need to create another one (especially against ɛ̃fini)? ɛ̃fini (1991 - 1997) Luxury vehicle division (MS-6, MS-8, MS-9, RX-7, MPV) Eunos (1989 - 1996) Upscale fun to drive line (100, 300, 500, 800, Cosmo, Lantis, Presso, Roadster) Autozam (1989 - 1998) Kei / compact cars (AZ-1, AZ-3, AZ Wagon, Carol, Clef, Revue, Scrum) M2 / Mazda Two (1991 - 1995) Customised part and tuning divison (1001, 1002, 1003, etc.) I am quite proud that I stay in Eunos area. ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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