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Putin starts “military operation” on Ukraine


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5 hours ago, Ender said:

When  country is facing existential situation, no need to be shy and 敢敢问 . 

And the donor countries,  敢敢給。。。 otherwise,  in a few years,  their children will be the ones crewing and dying in those tanks and planes as victorious Russia picks the next victim. 

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5 minutes ago, Playtime said:

Don't know how true... but dam... Korean tanks are so much more expensive then Korean cars. 

 

 

 

 

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Only if Toyota makes tank too...it'll be the cheapest, lightest, most fuel frugal, many cheap spare parts...😁

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7 minutes ago, Playtime said:

Don't know how true... but dam... Korean tanks are so much more expensive then Korean cars. 

 

 

 

 

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The AM companies selling them the cannon, optics, thermal imagers etc at inflated prices..... 

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1 minute ago, mersaylee said:

Only if Toyota makes tank too...it'll be the cheapest, lightest, most fuel frugal, many cheap spare parts...😁

Luckily Italians don't make tanks. Would have to buy double the number. 

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11 minutes ago, Volvobrick said:

Luckily Italians don't make tanks. Would have to buy double the number. 

But but ferrari and lambo engines very fast...maybe too loud...enemy can hear them from base camp 😁

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34 minutes ago, mersaylee said:

Only if Toyota makes tank too...it'll be the cheapest, lightest, most fuel frugal, many cheap spare parts...😁

CECA tank only 3.7M........ zhu guo only 2.6M... SAF should consider, much cheaper than our conti ones 😁... but the warantee dunno how only.

 

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37 minutes ago, Volvobrick said:

The AM companies selling them the cannon, optics, thermal imagers etc at inflated prices..... 

not really la.... the optics and fire control systems are the real cost drivers of tanks from what ive read. remove those from a leopard/M1 etc and put them on a T72.... the T72 will win.

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13 minutes ago, Playtime said:

CECA tank only 3.7M........ zhu guo only 2.6M... SAF should consider, much cheaper than our conti ones 😁... but the warantee dunno how only.

 

No return policy...literally go battle in one sure no return home...macam that lokun chu Cannot Go Home...😅

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40 minutes ago, mersaylee said:

But but ferrari and lambo engines very fast...maybe too loud...enemy can hear them from base camp 😁

May be get those Ferraris and Lamborghinis to distract the enemies while the silent tanks (if there are...) move in from another angle to attack them.

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47 minutes ago, DOBIEMKZ said:

May be get those Ferraris and Lamborghinis to distract the enemies while the silent tanks (if there are...) move in from another angle to attack them.

Wow! You’re the reincarnated general G. Patton…pattern liao liao 👍😁

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58 minutes ago, DOBIEMKZ said:

May be get those Ferraris and Lamborghinis to distract the enemies while the silent tanks (if there are...) move in from another angle to attack them.

the new M1 design is supoosedly hybrid.... so silent may actually come ture...

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1 hour ago, Playtime said:

CECA tank only 3.7M........ zhu guo only 2.6M... SAF should consider, much cheaper than our conti ones 😁... but the warantee dunno how only.

 

Der grosse Deutsche Panzer Schlussverkauf.

It’s rumored that Singapore bought the Leopard 2A4 at less than a million dollars each back when Europe was still peaceful and rapidly demilitarizing. 7 million dollars and change is a lot of money left over to zhng it to whatever we felt was suitable. Much of the stuff is modular anyway, and we have a penchant for zhnging - Skyhawks, Ultras, SM-1s, etc.

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1 hour ago, Playtime said:

the new M1 design is supoosedly hybrid.... so silent may actually come ture...

Read somewhere the M1 was quite quiet, where they turn around a corner, the Iraqi soldiers were shocked they were facing tanks, bcuz they had expected loud noisy tanks. I think that was a slaughter.

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1 hour ago, Macrosszero said:

Der grosse Deutsche Panzer Schlussverkauf.

It’s rumored that Singapore bought the Leopard 2A4 at less than a million dollars each back when Europe was still peaceful and rapidly demilitarizing. 7 million dollars and change is a lot of money left over to zhng it to whatever we felt was suitable. Much of the stuff is modular anyway, and we have a penchant for zhnging - Skyhawks, Ultras, SM-1s, etc.

Yeah I remember eng hen talked about it, Germany was selling off its tank fleet left and right,  seemed like it came unexpectedly and the price was unbeatable. So quick quick grab, no doubt Singapore was a "safe" uncontroversial customer to German parliament to approve. 

Before that,  ST  was even reportedly working on a light tank,  clearly targeting a replacement for the old amx13.

Come to think of it, saf supposedly had hundreds of various M113s and amx each. Wonder where they went. Even the early Bionix may have been retired with Hunters coming on line. 

Imagine... our old bionixs showing up in Ukraine,  be nice to see how they do in real life. 😅

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5 hours ago, mersaylee said:

Only if Toyota makes tank too...it'll be the cheapest, lightest, most fuel frugal, many cheap spare parts...😁

I would not want to be inside it. 

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