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yishunite

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1 hour ago, Ct3833 said:

To those who support Ukraine, while we are unable to help much here other than providing them with moral support, we can provide funancial support. If anyone has proven sites that the money will go to helping ukraine, please share the links here.  I have donated twice through my company initiaitve. I will continue to donate , especially after they win against the invasion. It does not matter the amount, every single cent counts, especially if we join effort with the international community . 

Cheers Ukraine!

Theres ways to actually donate directly to Ukraine even their military... ie. ur money could literally buy ammo to kill russians with... not sure if legal in Singapore so I dont wanna post link but you can google 

But I would prefer to do something like donate via UN system: https://news.un.org/en/focus/ukraine/donate

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21 hours ago, Macrosszero said:

I don’t think that’s the same ship… too many parts of the superstructure are wrong and the video quality isn’t modern

Yah.. the distinctive missile launchers flanking both sides of the cruiser are not there..

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9 minutes ago, Tkseah said:

Yah.. the distinctive missile launchers flanking both sides of the cruiser are not there..

Thats what i thot at first but actually the ship is much longer than in some pics and the missile racks are way forward. Most experts agree it is the ship (and has been seen from multiple angles including in the air)... if its not then where the heck this one came from lol

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41 minutes ago, yishunite said:

Thats what i thot at first but actually the ship is much longer than in some pics and the missile racks are way forward. Most experts agree it is the ship (and has been seen from multiple angles including in the air)... if its not then where the heck this one came from lol

The aforementioned video is that of the US Navy's destroyer USS Buchanan sinking in an exercise:
On 13 June 2000, the guided missile destroyer USS Buchanan (DDG-14) took part in the RIMPAC 2000 (Rim of the the Pacific) multinational exercises as a target ship at the Pacific Missile Range Facility, northwest of the Hawaiian island of Kauai.

 

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21 hours ago, Macrosszero said:

I don’t think that’s the same ship… too many parts of the superstructure are wrong and the video quality isn’t modern

The video of the actual Moskva sinking is very short-lived; I supposedly it was illegally taken.

Watch: First Video Of Russian Warship Moskva Sinking Emerges Online

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/first-video-of-russian-warship-moskva-sinking-emerges-online-2897854

Designed in the 1970s Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Moskva was conceived to destroy US aircraft carriers and had been in service for nearly four decades.

Updated: April 18, 2022 6:06 pm IST

The first visuals of Russia's Moskva missile cruiser, the flagship of its Black Sea Fleet, sinking have emerged online. Ukraine had said Moskva's fate was sealed by a missile strike launched by its forces from the coast last week which ripped open the hulking Soviet-era ship's hull, while Russia claimed it was a fire and explosions involving ammunition stowed onboard that doomed the vessel.

The Moskva had a crew of around 500 sailors, who Russia said were successfully evacuated to other ships before being returned to their home port of Sevastopol in Crimea on Friday. Ukraine has suggested there are likely to have been fatalities.

NDTV cannot independently verify the authenticity of the video.

Britain's Ministry of Defence has said the Moskva's loss is likely to prompt Russia to review its naval posture in the Black Sea. US officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, told news agency Reuters that while the sinking would have a symbolic impact and potentially raise questions about Russia's longer-term naval capabilities, it would be unlikely to have a major impact on the course of the conflict. The Russian navy has so far not played a big role.

One US official said that Russia had only used its warships in a limited fashion, to carry out occasional strikes and resupply troops in the south. Russia retains naval dominance in the immediate region and the Moskva was equipped to destroy enemy vessels at sea, but little is left of Ukraine's navy.

Some analysts say the Moskva may have helped support a possible Russian amphibious landing in the Ukrainian port of Odesa that has not happened yet because of resistance from Ukrainian forces. Its sinking may be seen in some quarters in Ukraine as reducing the chances of such an assault and allow Ukraine to redeploy some of its forces elsewhere.

Russia has two other ships of the same class, the Marshal Ustinov and the Varyag, which serve with Russia's Northern and Pacific fleets respectively. Turkey, which controls access to the Black Sea via the Bosphorus, will not let them enter at a time of war.

Designed in the 1970s Soviet Union during the Cold War, it was conceived to destroy US aircraft carriers and had been in service for nearly four decades. It underwent an extensive refit, and according to Britain's Ministry of Defence, only returned to operational status in 2021. Despite that refit, some of its hardware remained outdated.

6CommentsThe Moskva's sinking is a bitter loss for the Russian military, as the ship, though ageing, was a symbol of the Crimea-based Black Sea Fleet and of Russian military pride. If it was holed by Ukrainian anti-ship missiles, it would be the biggest Russian warship to be lost in action since 1941, when German dive bombers crippled the Soviet battleship Marat in Kronshtadt harbour.

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49 minutes ago, DOBIEMKZ said:

The aforementioned video is that of the US Navy's destroyer USS Buchanan sinking in an exercise:
On 13 June 2000, the guided missile destroyer USS Buchanan (DDG-14) took part in the RIMPAC 2000 (Rim of the the Pacific) multinational exercises as a target ship at the Pacific Missile Range Facility, northwest of the Hawaiian island of Kauai.

 

You see the resolution of the videos confirm cannot be the same. 2000s dont even have mobile phone camera where got film sideways in portrait view

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Playtime

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1 hour ago, Ender said:

Also to promote nato weapons by providing easy targets.

well he definitely sank the aura of russian military might against anything but 3rd world countries.

and probably finished any sales of russian tanks... who the hell would still buy those.

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15 minutes ago, Playtime said:

well he definitely sank the aura of russian military might against anything but 3rd world countries.

and probably finished any sales of russian tanks... who the hell would still buy those.

Can get bargain from Ukrainian farmers instead

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8 hours ago, yishunite said:

Lol its a farmhouse. This not Singapore 🤣

In a poorer country, having a house is like having a GCB already 😆😆

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51 minutes ago, Ct3833 said:

In a poorer country, having a house is like having a GCB already 😆😆

Those house is like single storey landed in Bukit Timah.

Not GCB

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Mariupol rejects ultimatum to surrender. 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/new-surrender-deadline-mariupol-west-promises-ukraine-more-arms-2022-04-19/

No surrender in Mariupol as Russian deadline expires; refugees top 5 million

April 20 (Reuters) - A Russian ultimatum to Ukrainian troops in Mariupol to surrender or die expired on Wednesday afternoon with no mass capitulation, but the commander of a unit believed to be holding out in the besieged city said his forces could survive just days or hours.

The United Nations said on Wednesday the number of refugees who have fled Ukraine since Russia invaded on Feb 24 had exceeded five million. More than half are children.

Ukraine said it had so far held off an assault by thousands of Russian troops attempting to advance in what Ukrainian officials call the Battle of the Donbas, a new campaign to seize two eastern provinces Moscow claims on behalf of separatists.

In a video, the commander of Ukraine's 36th Marine Brigade, one of the last units believed to be holding out in Mariupol, asked for international help to escape the city's siege.

"This is our appeal to the world. It may be our last. We may have only a few days or hours left," said Major Serhiy Volyna in a video uploaded to Facebook. "The enemy units are dozens of times larger than ours, they have dominance in the air, in artillery, in ground troops, in equipment and in tanks."

Volyna spoke in front of a white brick wall in what sounded like a crowded room. Reuters could not verify where or when the video was filmed or who else might have been there.

Russia's nearly eight-week-long invasion has failed to capture any of Ukraine's largest cities. Moscow was forced to retreat from northern Ukraine after an assault on Kyiv was repelled last month, but has poured troops back in for an assault on the east that began this week.

In the ruins of Mariupol, site of the war's heaviest fighting and worst humanitarian catastrophe, Russia was hitting the last main Ukrainian stronghold, the Azovstal steel plant, with bunker-buster bombs, Kyiv said. Ukrainian officials have said women and children are trapped in bunkers under the plant.

"The world watches the murder of children online and remains silent," presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak wrote on Twitter.

Russia has been trying to take full control of Mariupol since the war's first days. Its capture would be a big strategic prize, linking territory held by pro-Russian separatists in the east with the Crimea region that Moscow annexed in 2014.

Russian-backed separatists said shortly before a 2 p.m. (1100 GMT) Wednesday deadline that just five people had surrendered. The previous day, Russia said no one had responded to a similar surrender demand.

Ukraine announced plans to send 90 buses to evacuate 6,000 civilians from Mariupol, saying it had reached a "preliminary agreement" with Russia on a safe corridor, for the first time in weeks. But none of those earlier agreements have actually succeeded on the ground, with Moscow blocking all convoys.

Once a prosperous port of 400,000 people, Mariupol has been reduced to a blasted wasteland with corpses in the streets and residents confined to cellars. Ukrainian officials say tens of thousands of civilians have died there.

U.N. data showed that 5.03 million had fled Ukraine as of Wednesday, bringing the tally above 5 million for the first time.

"They have left behind their homes and families," refugee agency UNHCR head Filippo Grandi said on Twitter. "...Every new attack shatters their hopes. Only an end to the war can pave the way for rebuilding their lives."

BATTLE OF DONBAS

The battle for the Donbas region, which includes the provinces Luhansk and Donetsk, could be decisive as Russia searches for a victory to justify President Vladimir Putin's Feb. 24 invasion. Putin says Ukraine mistreated Russian-speakers in the Donbas, an accusation Kyiv dismisses as false.

Russian television showed Putin addressing a girl from Luhansk on Wednesday: "It was the tragedy that took place in the Donbas, including in the Lugansk People's Republic, that forced, simply forced Russia to launch this military operation, which everyone is well aware of today," he said.

Ukrainian presidential advisor Oleksiy Arestovych said Russia was focusing on advancing towards the strategically important Donbas city of Sloviansk, but "so far they are not succeeding". Targeting that area from several directions is part of an apparent effort to surround Ukrainian forces in the east.

Ukraine's Defence Minister Oleksii Reznikov tweeted that Russia’s "military capacity has been significantly diminished" since the start of the war. "We’re defeating & will continue to defeat the occupiers!"

Peace talks have been stalled. The Kremlin accused Kyiv of delaying the talks and changing its positions. Kyiv accuses Moscow of blocking talks by refusing humanitarian ceasefires, especially to relieve besieged Mariupol.

British military intelligence said fighting in the Donbas was intensifying as Russian forces tried to break through Ukraine's lines, and that Russia was still building up forces on Ukraine's eastern border.

Moscow is hoping its advantage in firepower will give it more success against Ukrainian defenders than in the failed campaign against Kyiv, when its overstretched supply lines were attacked by nimble small units.

Within a day of launching the Donbas offensive, Russian forces captured Kreminna, a frontline town of 18,000 people, on Tuesday. Ukraine's general staff said Russian forces had attempted an offensive near Kharkiv, the country's second biggest city, close to Russia's supply lines to Donbas.

Charles Michel, head of the European Council that groups the 27 EU member states, arrived in Kyiv as the latest European official to visit and demonstrate support.

In the latest sign of Russia's international isolation, sports industry news site Sportico reported that Russian players would be banned from the Wimbledon tennis tournament. read more

The All England Lawn Tennis Club, which organises the grand slam event, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said: "To make sports people hostages of political intrigue is unacceptable."

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Macrosszero

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1 hour ago, Singa said:

SU-57 fired old generation missiles without enter Ukraine. so strange, isn't is a stealth fighter, why so scared?

 

Chances of being brought down in hostile territory by NATO weaponry is high - it would hand an intelligence bonanza to the West

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