Liverpool Football Club Season 2022/2023 - Onward to Greater Success.

[Abracadabra]

Nunez 

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[Kopites]

1 hour ago, Jamesc said:

Hendo 32 years old

Thiago 31 years old

Fabinho 29 years old

Their best years were from 24 to 29.

Good midfielder at their peak you read

every where on the pitch

touch every blade of grass

etc etc

Meilor in his early 30s was still superb playing in the midfield. Age isnt an excuse to give such half hearted performance.

The root cause started from VD imo. Since he came back from long term injury he was never the roll Royce again. He hardly shout / command the last line of defence. His passing also was never the same. Then I was thinking probably mind already shifted to Qatar. The virus spreaded to Alison and midfield. Now seeming our attack also caught on with the viruses. 

[Si4dr]

Simple................Klopp have to go.

[Fooblack]

the effect of the 62 game season is eating into the team. Physiologically, the players are not able to function or raise themselves to play the usual way of intensity and momentum.  the ageing midfield do not help at all.

Is klopp to be blamed? the last game did showed that he did not respond logically by putting out the same midfield 3 which has proven to be too slow and weak defensively. Against a fluid and mobile Brighton side, this is a recipe for disaster. The scoreline should be 5 or 6 nil. the 3-0 flattered Pool who easily had the worst game in Klopp's reign. 

Is Klopp also badly affected by the last season? I think you can make a case of it. not everyone can recover from the highs and lows like switching on and off.  He is human after all and the squad is too.

Should we now just react and push for change in manager? Personally, that's too much of a knee jerk reaction. Klopp has always had to work with less resources in order to compete with the riches of the other elite clubs. This is his specialty and we probably wont get another manager with such profile. Is he perfect? no. But his track record tells us that he will get the club to compete again when the conditions are right again.  So, this calls for patience and there will much more pain for fans to go through this season by the looks of things.  Unlikely to qualify for the UCL and unless the ownership transition is clear, we can expect the transfer funds to be limited so long as FSG is still around.   with the club hierarchy already in a mess and flux in ownership is unclear, the very last thing is to change the manager as well. we are certainly better off sticking to him in my opinion.   

[Shaun-Ng]

@Kopites and a MS who can't score in one-to-one situation and firing into the goal post that is up in the stance 

[Beregond]

10 minutes ago, Fooblack said:

the effect of the 62 game season is eating into the team. Physiologically, the players are not able to function or raise themselves to play the usual way of intensity and momentum.  the ageing midfield do not help at all.

Is klopp to be blamed? the last game did showed that he did not respond logically by putting out the same midfield 3 which has proven to be too slow and weak defensively. Against a fluid and mobile Brighton side, this is a recipe for disaster. The scoreline should be 5 or 6 nil. the 3-0 flattered Pool who easily had the worst game in Klopp's reign. 

Is Klopp also badly affected by the last season? I think you can make a case of it. not everyone can recover from the highs and lows like switching on and off.  He is human after all and the squad is too.

Should we now just react and push for change in manager? Personally, that's too much of a knee jerk reaction. Klopp has always had to work with less resources in order to compete with the riches of the other elite clubs. This is his specialty and we probably wont get another manager with such profile. Is he perfect? no. But his track record tells us that he will get the club to compete again when the conditions are right again.  So, this calls for patience and there will much more pain for fans to go through this season by the looks of things.  Unlikely to qualify for the UCL and unless the ownership transition is clear, we can expect the transfer funds to be limited so long as FSG is still around.   with the club hierarchy already in a mess and flux in ownership is unclear, the very last thing is to change the manager as well. we are certainly better off sticking to him in my opinion.   

next game vs chelsea liao😂
Its do or die for both teams.

Lost and will sink deeper and cannot pull out.

Win, it could be a big moral booster and go on a 10 games winning streak and chase top 4😁

[Si4dr]

I respect what Klopp have done & he is one of the best manager Pool have.

But he only have one tactic for so many seasons where opponent already know how to counter it.

Agree that Pool have exceed expectation under Klopp.

Fail to plan ahead of replacing aging front line & midfield/or fail to find correct player have play a big part of this season down fall

 

[Hamburger]

The once feared Hendo and Fab combi is now the weakest link.

Konate was shaky and TAA was outrun on the flank throughout the game. 

Sahlah.....nevermind, he should be ashamed of the fat paycheck he is getting. Don't even get me started on Ox.

It's crisis time.

 

[Stary]

Actually to say that FSG never provide $$ also not true.  They did provide the funds to buy Nunez and Gakpo so far and these 2 doesn't come cheap. It is not their fault if the money had not been spent on midfield.

Then there is blind loyalty to some players like Milner, Henderson, Fabinho, Keita, Ox, Gomez, etc  If some of these players are not sold, obviously it is also hard to get more funds.

The problem so far is Klopp simply could not see that the midfield has an issue when the whole world seems to see it. The 4-3-3 is obviously not working when the 3 forwards are not getting much service since  the 3 midfielders could not retain/win/pass much of the ball.

Frankly I wish he could try other formations such as 4-4-2.  Beef up the midfield a bit with extra legs since the older legs can't seem to run. Move TAA into right midfield to leverage on his strength in crossing and eliminate his weakness in defending.  Robertson is not the same player who could run up and down on the left, so let him keep to the leftback position and get a younger player to support him on the left midfield. Try something else except the same old 4-3-3 where the opponents already found a million ways to counter that.

Edited January 16, 2023 by Starry

[Fooblack]

FSG only opens their wallet if the invested player can rise further in transfer value so that their investment is fairly protected. That explains why Gapko is a pretty risk-free purchase and arguably, this is the same for Nunez.  

When things become more urgent with significant shortfalls in team, that's when you will see that the owners are unwilling to plough their money in cos to them, this is poor money spent and would unlikely be recouped through future transfer value.  remember the year VVD was out? We would only afford a couple of really lower tier CBs to try to plug the gap but both CBs weere eventually let go.  The same will likely be the case this window. Can't see why the owners will invest unless a fire sale for a good MF is available. All the names mentioned such as Bellingham, etc ...  very unlikely to be true.  

[Fooblack]

1 hour ago, Si4dr said:

I respect what Klopp have done & he is one of the best manager Pool have.

But he only have one tactic for so many seasons where opponent already know how to counter it.

Agree that Pool have exceed expectation under Klopp.

Fail to plan ahead of replacing aging front line & midfield/or fail to find correct player have play a big part of this season down fall

 

this is nothing new... we all know Klopp's one and only style of play. he doesnt have the squad to play this but is probably hoping at some point, the players picked up the momentum again.  

we can all sense his frustration and impatience with the owners too.  he is not blind nor just a yes man. but ultimately, his hands are tied if the owners do not see the same thing. 

[Xers007]

Salah cant play RF

TAA cant play RB

almost whole MID need replacement

DEF MID FWD simply not fast enough, the energy we see on the past years are totally gone.

How to score when giving chance for opponent to regroup, stand there waiting for their attack to come. 

I feel Klopp still deserved the chance to make it right.

Edited January 16, 2023 by Xers007

[Beregond]

12 minutes ago, Xers007 said:

Salah cant play RF

TAA cant play RB

almost whole MID need replacement

DEF MID FWD simply not fast enough, the energy we see on the past years are totally gone.

How to score when giving chance for opponent to regroup, stand there waiting for their attack to come. 

I feel Klopp still deserved the chance to make it right.

Dun worry, got alot of news quite a few middle east big boss aiming to buy liverpools liao😄

[Xers007]

10 minutes ago, Beregond said:

Dun worry, got alot of news quite a few middle east big boss aiming to buy liverpools liao😄

buy "cup" ah, so be it lah... 

[Jamesc]

Typical isn't it

Schedulers die die must put Liverpool game at Reunion dinner time!

Every other week Liverpool must play at 12.30 or 2.30am

Reunion dinner must put Pool at 8.30!

[Beregond]

12 minutes ago, Jamesc said:

Typical isn't it

Schedulers die die must put Liverpool game at Reunion dinner time!

Every other week Liverpool must play at 12.30 or 2.30am

Reunion dinner must put Pool at 8.30!

eat finish liao straight away on TV 😂

[Fooblack]

afraid Pool's form unlikely to improve dramatically anytime soon.  Football is all about momentum and Pool is on a slippery slope trying to find a bottom.  Players are clearly affected and cant do simple things like passing and pressing well.  confidence is probably at an all time low.  

Pool needs to just try to do the basics right... stop leaking goals first then think about attacking and pressing. However, these are the very things Klopp's style is not good at so when things looks bad that Pool's defence is like schoolboys.  Klopp will certainly insist on his style of play until the balance is right. Right now, cant see when that can happen so we need to have a brave heart to take it all in. 

Klopp hinted that changes are coming in the summer. So in a way, this season may be a write-off.  Seems like they are trying to confirm ownership changes then the squad can refresh itself properly with a clear direction and structure.  Whether this can be the case, also a big question mark. We need Klopp to stay on to give stability in the midst of these chaos at least until his contract runs out... 

[Si4dr]

@Beregond still cannot watch.... Jamesc MIL force ask him to lose play mahjong la