Why 'quiet quitting' could be good for you and your employer

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4 hours ago, SiLangKia said:

She left on her own, couldn't take it after awhile, so even better, no need to fire. Also cos the department merged then got 2 women managers reporting to one senior manager, then alot of politics she cannot tahan also, The senior manager was good, took me in to work on some stuff directly, then this ang moh cannot take it also like damn upset she lost some control over her "boys"

Super drama and politics siah?! 😅

[Wind30]

Ya Lor… I worked for 23 years 3 companies 3 bosses and I have never complained a word about my bosses. Same in school and internship, never complained about my Teachers and mentors, in front or behind. Wait except my jc bio teacher but she was really psycho one. Got mental problem…. Seriously. 

I did hear other people complain though… but I never see the point of doing it. I had good working relationships with my three bosses and I honestly like them so I am very sure I would not complain about them. I partly left my first job because my first boss left the company. I was itchy to jump after 8 years anyway. 

I am guessing I wont stay if I hate my manager enough to talk bad about him. 

as a manager, u obviously don’t talk bad about your subordinates behind their backs. I only praise them behind their backs. 

Edited August 20, 2022 by Wind30

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4 hours ago, Wind30 said:

Ya Lor… I worked for 23 years 3 companies 3 bosses and I have never complained a word about my bosses. Same in school and internship, never complained about my Teachers and mentors, in front or behind. Wait except my jc bio teacher but she was really psycho one. Got mental problem…. Seriously. 

I did hear other people complain though… but I never see the point of doing it. I had good working relationships with my three bosses and I honestly like them so I am very sure I would not complain about them. I partly left my first job because my first boss left the company. I was itchy to jump after 8 years anyway. 

I am guessing I wont stay if I hate my manager enough to talk bad about him. 

as a manager, u obviously don’t talk bad about your subordinates behind their backs. I only praise them behind their backs. 

There would be some people who talk bad about their boss, dont like their boss and yet can continue to stay put in the company. I really dont know why got such people?

[Yeshe]

On 8/19/2022 at 3:59 PM, SiLangKia said:

last time my ang moh manager, she was terrible, I think too young and immature, and we did talk bad about her cos actually alot of ppl don't like her. Then one day she called the 3 of us into a mtg room and said she heard rumours abt us saying bad things abt her, I just went : " so you rather trust other ppl than your own team? ppl say you believe? and if you're a good manager what's there to be afraid of? why so insecure?" 

Actually we really did talk bad abt her la cos she was hell-ish, but we purposely decided to bring her on a guilt trip.

I was the most junior, after that my 2 seniors also said smth along that line, then she started crying say she very hurt blah blah etc if we not happy must tell her blah blah all gong jiao wei one like she will listen.

 

Last time call me stupid before, I was like: "the last I recall I'm the one with a proper degree not you" then walked off. If not happy w smth address the work, don't use personal attacks calling ppl stupid, then always say "you asians..."

I'm the kind anytime can leave the company one i don't care, end up I stayed longer than her hahaha even managed to change dept to try smth else, useless micro-managing bitch. 

 

KNN ang moh

I dont blame your angmo boss because u always give confusing signals. By the way, chio or not?

[Voodooman]

On 8/19/2022 at 12:34 PM, DOBIEMKZ said:

Commentary: Why 'quiet quitting' could be good for you and your employer

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/work-life-balance-employer-staff-burnout-quit-2885826?cid=FBcna&fbclid=IwAR2ye5G-DtrDPAhNo5FAI1sFyiIV5YRT0vmkrpm6UqbFjdUce0vRwiEsN2w

The trend of “quiet quitting” has clearly resonated with young people, to the frustration of some managers. Working at minimal capacity may feel alien, but has benefits for both sides, says a psychologist.

Nilufar Ahmed, 18 Aug 2022 06:21AM (Updated: 18 Aug 2022 06:21AM)

File photo. The trend of "quiet quitting", or doing the bare minimum expected at work, has taken off on TikTok. (Photo: iStock/Kazuma Seki)

BRISTOL, England: In many offices (not to mention on Zoom, Teams and Slack), employees and managers alike are whispering about the “great resignation”.

The UK saw a sharp rise in people quitting their jobs in 2021, and one-fifth of UK workers still say they plan to resign in the next year in search of greater job satisfaction and better pay.

If you’re unhappy at work, but leaving your job isn’t an option or there are no appealing alternatives, you may want to try “quiet quitting”. This trend of simply doing the bare minimum expected at work has taken off on TikTok and clearly resonated with young people.

It has also frustrated managers, with some reportedly concerned about their employees slacking off. But quiet quitting is not about avoiding work, it is about not avoiding a meaningful life outside of work.

The last 20 years have seen many people join a global culture of overwork, with unpaid labour becoming an expected part of many jobs. After multiple recessions and a global pandemic, millennials and Generation Z in particular often do not have the same job opportunities and financial security as their parents.

Many young people in professional jobs who expected a relatively straightforward progression in life have struggled with precarious contracts, job uncertainties and trying to get onto the housing ladder. There are those who constantly put in extra hours and go above and beyond at work to try and secure promotions and bonuses – yet still struggle.

Perhaps in response to this disappointment, a recent study by Deloitte found young people are increasingly seeking flexibility and purpose in their work, and balance and satisfaction in their lives. Many young professionals are now rejecting the live-to-work lifestyle, by continuing to work but not allowing work to control them.

File photo. Quiet quitting aims to restore balance where work has crept into personal time. (Photo: iStock/M_a_y_a)

Working at minimal capacity may feel alien. But you (and your employer) shouldn’t fear quiet quitting – it could actually be good for you.

PROTECT AGAINST BURNOUT

Studies have found that work-life balance is linked to mental health in a variety of jobs. And a 2021 survey of 2,017 UK workers by employer review website Glassdoor found that more than half felt they had poor work-life balance.

Quiet quitting aims to restore balance where work has crept into your personal time. It can also help to separate your self-worth from work. When all you have is work, it is hard not to derive your sense of value from it.

Perceived failures at work, such as not getting a promotion or recognition for your achievements, can become internalised as personal failures.

This can increase anxiety, making you worry about how to improve your performance. Often, people respond by doing more work, further exacerbating the vicious cycle of overwork and low self-esteem.

When things get really bad it can result in burnout. In 2019, the World Health Organization officially recognised burnout as an occupational phenomenon characterised by feelings of depletion, exhaustion, cynicism, mental distance from work and poorer performance. Burnout is a significant risk of overwork and can have long-term physical, emotional and mental health impacts.

Burnout is difficult and costly for individuals and employers. Many people with burnout end up taking time off work, or at least working at less than full capacity. Quiet quitting can create a better balance of work and personal life and so could protect against burnout before it happens.

BETTER WORK RELATIONSHIPS

Research shows that happier employees are more productive and engaged. This can even mitigate against feeling distracted or not wanting to be present.

When people are feeling happy they are more likely to be friendlier and open, fostering workplace friendships, which people report as being a significant part of their enjoyment at work. Quiet quitting’s focus on just doing your job also removes the negative impact of constantly feeling in competition with peers.

Having workplace friendships taps in to our basic need for a sense of belonging and can in turn increase loyalty to a workplace and improve job performance. All of this can result in greater productivity, which of course means higher profits.

Quiet quitting could be a “great liberation” in response to the great resignation. People are rejecting overwork and burnout and choosing balance and joy. They are establishing boundaries so their identity and self-value is not tied to their work productivity.

Instead of getting nervous at loss of productivity, employers should take advantage of the quiet quitting movement to support the wellbeing of their staff. Encouraging a better work-life balance will communicate to workers that they are valued, leading to greater engagement, productivity, and loyalty: Everyone wins.

Nilufar Ahmed is Senior Lecturer in Social Sciences at the University of Bristol. This commentary first appeared on The Conversation.

 

Overworking is not good but this read like glorifying slacking.

If you are doing bare minimal to keep your job and not giving your best in whatever you do, you will fail in life. Maybe you need to change job or change boss.  

Not saying you need to work 996. 

2 different things.

[Playtime]

1 minute ago, Voodooman said:

Overworking is not good but this read like glorifying slacking.

If you are doing bare minimal to keep your job and not giving your best in whatever you do, you will fail in life. Maybe you need to change job or change boss.  

Not saying you need to work 996. 

2 different things.

Otoh..

A job is just to pay for life, it is not your life... well ok for some it is.

In fact those are the people who usually think they are the best but don't know the people who work closest to them absolutely disagrees. 

Imo, Even when they absolutely hate their boss, People will stay in jobs IF the job and colleagues are ok.... and the $$ la.

To be clear,  there are the rare gem of a  boss who are coarse slave drivers but still get the support of people below,  but the problem is too many think they are that gem when in reality they are normal lump of coal.

[SiLangKia]

35 minutes ago, Yeshe said:

I dont blame your angmo boss because u always give confusing signals. By the way, chio or not?

oiii she can't be clear abt what she wants all the time also hor hahaha that's why everyone frudtrated w her leh. Ok la not too bad

[Wind30]

1 hour ago, 13177 said:

There would be some people who talk bad about their boss, dont like their boss and yet can continue to stay put in the company. I really dont know why got such people?

There are many people like this. I know why as I have seen a few. sometimes they are just looking for better jobs. Sometimes, they like other stuff about the job, maybe the pay,maybe their colleagues, etc. 

Edited August 21, 2022 by Wind30

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5 minutes ago, Wind30 said:

There are many people like this. I know why as I have seen a few. sometimes they are just looking for better jobs. Sometimes, they like other stuff about the job, maybe the pay,maybe their colleagues, etc. 

Like that these people become a toxic in the office, which other colleagues might got influence by them.

[Playtime]

1 hour ago, 13177 said:

Like that these people become a toxic in the office, which other colleagues might got influence by them.

Perhaps it's toxic bosses and not toxic employee.?

[Voodooman]

9 hours ago, Playtime said:

Otoh..

A job is just to pay for life, it is not your life... well ok for some it is.

In fact those are the people who usually think they are the best but don't know the people who work closest to them absolutely disagrees. 

Imo, Even when they absolutely hate their boss, People will stay in jobs IF the job and colleagues are ok.... and the $$ la.

To be clear,  there are the rare gem of a  boss who are coarse slave drivers but still get the support of people below,  but the problem is too many think they are that gem when in reality they are normal lump of coal.

Agree job is just a job.

I always tell my kids, do your best in everything you do, if not, don't do it. Job included. I am just old school, I don't understand "quiet quitting" but I know if for whatever reasons you are doing minimal in your job, where you spend most of your waking hours in, then it is time for loud quitting.  

Again, not saying one should trade your life and health away for a job. There is no loyalty these days. We are all expendable in the name of the great bottomline.

[Wt_know]

in hokkien we say ... BO CHAP !!!

in engrish we say .... ACT BLUR !!!!

in malay we say .... BUAT BODOH !!! 

 

[yishunite]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/what-is-the-point-singapore-has-more-quiet-quitters-than-global-average-survey-shows

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‘What is the point?’: Singapore has more quiet quitters than global average, survey shows

According to a recent survey by human resources agency Randstad of 1,000 respondents aged between 18 and 67 in Singapore, 35 per cent have quiet quit their job. This is 4 percentage points higher than the global average.

Among those who indicated they had quiet quit, 41 per cent said they did so to improve work-life balance, while 38 per cent said it was because of low compensation and rising cost of living. About 33 per cent cited a lack of career growth opportunities.

Combine this with OP say quiet quitting good for you and employer... Once again Singapore tok kong!

[Freeder]

On 7/12/2023 at 10:56 AM, yishunite said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/what-is-the-point-singapore-has-more-quiet-quitters-than-global-average-survey-shows

Combine this with OP say quiet quitting good for you and employer... Once again Singapore tok kong!

As usual , why ST did not elaborate more on which industry have the most quitters & why? 

No wonder ST need to inflate publication figs.. really lazy journalism..