Madarmour Neutral Newbie September 17, 2002 Share September 17, 2002 The Monza F1 has just completed over the weekend and both Williams/McLaren were whitewashed. Montoya - DNF (suspension failure), Ralf - DNF (Engine blew up on the 5th lap) and Kimi - DNF ( engine blew up). Coulthard - missed out on points by coming in 7th. It's a Ferrari 1-2 for the 3rd consecutive race followed by, look at this, Irvine's Jaguar! After the great start by Ralf and Montoya, I thought that Monza might be their race. All this talk about the BMW POWER, with engines that revs up to 19000 rpm! How Monza's supposed to suit Williams with it's fast straights. The result was still a big zero. Montoya is the qualifying king (7 pole position ) but with no wins to his name this year. And those Michelins that's good for qualifying but cannot last the whole race. Williams and Michelin better go back to the drawing room and come back with a more reliable machine and better suited tyres next year or they are gonna be whitewashed again next season! And that's not gonna be good for F1! McLaren is on a slow and stready decline................... If they are not careful, Renault may beat them next year! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemason Neutral Newbie September 17, 2002 Share September 17, 2002 McLaren is on a slow and stready decline................... If they are not careful, Renault may beat them next year! did you just say renault?? who knows it might just happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie September 17, 2002 Author Share September 17, 2002 Not joking man! See how well Renault has done this year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Neutral Newbie September 17, 2002 Share September 17, 2002 Reliability - McLaren's #1 enemy. Unless they can solve that, as far as many ppl are concerned, they're useless. Just how many times did DC not finish this and last season because of poor reliability ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie September 17, 2002 Author Share September 17, 2002 Certainly hope that they and Williams will buck up next year. I was actually thinking that Williams would give Ferrari a run for their money early this season. Didn't expect them to get raped like that! Their car always seems to have this handling problem. It seems like Montoya had a very hard time controlling his car at Monza (similar to most GPs this year). The car just doesn't seem fluid. Pity him. I'm very sure he could've gotten a few title under his belt this season if his car handles better. BTW, the way Montoya cuts MS and Ralf closes in the gap during the start was damn good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Neutral Newbie September 17, 2002 Share September 17, 2002 You are absolutely right on cue ... Ferrari has the best chassis on the grid right now ... some people say its illegal but FIA keeps a blind eye to it. Williams and McLarenare collaborating with Michelin to work on the tyre development. Bridgestone works only with Ferrari and builds tyres for them that other teams on Bridgestones are left in the lurch. Michelins are good in that they spread themselves around all their teams but then focus is gone. Williams has a problem with understeer. The car just would not turn and does not generate enough downforce for high downforce circuits like Hungary. Montoya is doing a monster job just to keep that car in contention. The reason why Montoya got passed by the Ferraris in Monza is the fact that immediately after Ralf blew up, they tuned down his engine via telemetry plus, the fact that Ralf blew off smuts of oils onto his race tyres. But Montoya says it best ; "Third place in 2002 equates to a win" But remember, it took Ferrari 20 years to return to the top .... the other teams will catch up by 2004. In the early 90s its Williams on top, McLaren late 90s and now Ferrari, its all a vicious cycle - just like Man U ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie September 17, 2002 Author Share September 17, 2002 But........has there been a year where one marque is so dominant? And there are still 2 more races to go............ So the Indianapolis fast oval section's gonna be BMW's advantage again 'sic'? BTW, just read in F1-Live that the FIA is doing a 'routine' check on MS's car after Monza. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seansene 1st Gear September 17, 2002 Share September 17, 2002 Well, the late '80s were McLaren's stomping ground, and Williams were untouchable in the early '90s. Esp the 89 (?) season with McLaren taking all but one win... An interesting article in CAR magazine questioning the need to compare Schumi to Fangio in uncomparable factors, and why he isn't in others. Will post it when I have the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie September 17, 2002 Author Share September 17, 2002 There's no basis of comparison as different conditions existed. Schumi was smart enough to refuse a comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Neutral Newbie September 17, 2002 Share September 17, 2002 How true ... Remember Shumi just broke Nigel Mansell's record of 9 wins per season in a Williams. That was Williams' dominant 3 years with a Honda engine. After that ... McLaren reclaimed top spot and now its Ferrari. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seansene 1st Gear September 19, 2002 Share September 19, 2002 Exactly... but it doesn't stop some segments of the media trying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madarmour Neutral Newbie September 19, 2002 Author Share September 19, 2002 Anything to boost sales................. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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