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Electric cars are known to be efficiency powerhouses, but how much can you really save? Charging an electric car will likely cost significantly less than filling up an ICE car with gasoline or diesel. But, how much can you save, and why is it cheaper to run on electrons than liquid fuel? Before looking at the price comparison, it's essential to understand that the lower ownership costs are not just about electricity versus gasoline prices. Here are some aspects of electric cars that yield lower overall fueling prices. Aerodynamics In typical gasoline cars, aerodynamics are essential but not typically of the utmost concern. Electric cars are different. Since batteries are the most expensive component in most EVs, they require a very slippery drag coefficient to maximize their range. As explained by AirShaper CEO Wouter Remmerie, a low drag coefficient is the key to allowing your EV to get the most amount of range. "If you double your speed, the aerodynamic force goes up by a factor of four," Remmerie told InsideEVs. Remerie estimated, "you can go 200km/h in a 200 horsepower sports car, but you need 1600 horsepower to go 400 [km/h]." While these numbers are far higher than typical U.S. highway speeds, it reveals that it's vital to master aerodynamics so EVs can travel on long highway stretches and still attain sufficient range. Overall Efficiency Unlike internal combustion cars, electric cars have the upper hand because they use far less energy. According to the Department of Energy (DOE), a typical gasoline car would have an efficiency (energy to the wheels) of less than 25%. This means that the other 75% of energy would be lost as heat or used in other internal combustion engine systems. Disregarding the benefits of regenerative braking, electric cars have an efficiency of over 65%. The other 35% is energy lost in charging and drive system losses (battery system cooling and heat). Regenerative Braking In traditional non-hybrid cars, deceleration is primarily done with their friction brakes. This means that lots of kinetic energy is simply wasted as heat. In hybrids and EVs, most braking is done through capturing kinetic energy and transferring it as electrical energy back into the battery pack. With this braking method, electric cars can recuperate energy back into the battery rather than wasting the energy as heat into the surroundings. According to the DOE, a typical EV's total efficiency (factoring in regen) is around 90% in the combined cycle. So, How Much Will You Save? While most articles will compare two of the best-selling EV and ICE sedans, like the Tesla Model 3 and the Toyota Camry, choosing two closely-sized and similarly-priced cars is far more realistic. The Toyota Corolla and the Nissan Leaf will be the two contenders in this comparison. The Nissan Leaf is the best-selling electric car that costs less than $30,000, and the Corolla was the second best-selling sedan this August (Car Pro USA). 2022 Toyota Corolla L (non-hybrid) $20,075 139 horsepower 30 city / 38 highway mpg 3.0 gallons / 100 miles 436-mile total range 2022 Nissan Leaf S 40kWh $27,400 ($19,900 incl. Federal tax credit) 147 horsepower 123 city / 99 highway mpge 30 kWh / 100 miles 150-mile total range To make this comparison fair, we will use the U.S. annual average mileage of 13,476 miles (U.S. Department of Transportation). We will also use the average U.S. home energy rate of $0.1252 per kWh (Electric Choice) and the average regular gas price of $3.285 a gallon, as of December 31, 2021 (AAA). For the Corolla, we will divide the total annual mileage of 13,476 miles a year by 100 miles and then multiply that number by 3.0 gallons to get a total of approximately 404 gallons of gasoline used in one year. Multiplying this gas price by $3.285 a gallon, it'll cost about $1,328 each year on gasoline for the Toyota. For the Leaf, we'll divide 13,476 miles by 100 miles and then multiply that quotient by 30kWh. In one year of driving a Leaf, it'll use around 4043kWh of electricity. Multiplying this by the average U.S. energy rate of $0.1252 per kWh, the Leaf will only cost $506 a year on electricity. This sum could fall to an even lower value, factoring in free public charging and $250 worth of EVGo credits in partnership with Nissan. Conclusion Each year, an electric car like the Leaf could save you $822 in fueling costs over a typical gasoline-powered sedan. In four years of ownership, this value could jump to $3,288, and in eight, you could save $6,576. With rising gasoline prices and an increased emphasis on electric vehicle incentives, now's the time to make the switch!

TLDR: Powertrains: US carries over the 1.8l with 139hp now, 2.0l dynamic force with 169hp available like the hatch. US hybrid variant TBA, Europe/China gets the 1.8l hybrid found in the Prius, carries over the 132hp 1.6l with improvements. No word on the 2.0l higher output hybrid variant. USA gets 6spd rev-matching manual or dynamic force CVT with launch gear like the hatch . Chassis: Also TNGA like the hatch, shares same extended 2700m wheelbase as outgoing sedan and current wagon aka Touring in Europe. Tech: Apple Carplay and Amazon Alexa available, no word on Android Auto yet. Toyota Safety Sense 2.0. Some China variants get rear air-conditioning, TBA for other markets. Sport/Prestige: See videos below. China has both, EU Prestige only, TBA other markets. The Sport will likely be the base look in USA, with XSE taking a more aggressive look (see imgur link below). SG Predictions: Unclear whether SG will get Sport or Prestige. I'm guessing Prestige as we got the same sedan look as Europe last gen. We should likely get the current 1.6l or the improved EU one. Not sure if 1.2 turbo or 1.8/2.0 hybrid will appear here. Not sure also if Toyota will bring in the hatch or just the sedan. Given Thailand took a full year to launch the SEA market Camry, I expect PIs to bring the sedan before Borneo does, like the Camry (I learnt my lesson with my Camry post, so now I've titled it 2019/2020. Fingers crossed for the rear aircon too. More info: China Launch: https://newsroom.toyota.co.jp/en/toyota/25357603.html EU Press Release: https://newsroom.toyota.eu/new-sedan-joins-toyota-corolla-hybrid-family/ Sporty Video: Prestige Video (featuring rear aircon vents): Sport vs Prestige vs USA XSE: https://imgur.com/a/GOsx7zX Europe Lineup: China Levin/Sport Comparison: Interior Prestige: Sport:

Can buy 2.0L camry lo. But why camry ar? Or you can take over the elantra and drive until 2028. 😂

i got 2 options. 1. Renew my Accord COE next January. Forgo the PARF of 16k+. mileage <130k km so far. 2. Buy a 7-8 year camry. drive for a few years, then either renew or buy new. But 2.5L camry the road tax will be bit chor. my elantra coe up in may '28.

Hi All, Seeking advise from those who had made purchases with a reliable PI and happy with their them (services, prices, etc.) We all have heard of one way or another of horrid experiences with PIs, but I am also sure there are genuine guys who are pleasant to deal with. Any recommendations from personal journeys? Also, other than the peace-of-mind distributorship between AD and non-AD and clearly price differential, are there any things to watch out for/differences between an AD and non-AD car, specifically for the Toyota Camry? Thanks.

Camry looks younger and younger with every new model. No more a car for uncles anymore. Just that the price is not cheap here in SG.

Vios/City cabin space vs altis/elantra is tiny difference given current car design. A civic has more cabin space than a mz6. Camry/accord cabin space is different class compared to mz6. Of course a CRV/Rav4 is also roomy and comfortable as it's more boxy. if u like to sit very upright, u would prefer SUV. If u like to slouch/lean back like me, then i prefer sedans. SUVs i never really feel comfortable in the seat.

Altis consider compact sedan? Maybe you can consider this. I think elantra is not consider that compact. Unless you are talking about city and vios. To me i always find driving those 2.0L sedan and those 1.6L sedan like not much difference. If i want a bigger car, would go straight to an SUV, would not consider those camry, mazda 6 and accord. Those 1.6L sedan i find is good enough.

If you see altis and camry on the road, usually are driving by ah pek. They are at least in their 60s and 70s. So both of you still young la. 😂 Not easy to find below 60s drive these two model, esp altis. If you see a 30s and 40s owned a camry/altis must go buy 4D liao.

You can assess based on depre of a 7 year camry vs a worst case 3 year renew accord coe , how much the annual diff will be. The plus is you know your accord history, plus if you can stretch your accord for 1 or 2 more years , your depre will be even lower. But no need to compare to the last cents, just go with your feeling, dont forget you got a very cheap elantra in 2018, we know hor. 🤣 It makes sense to use your 2 to 3 years assumption, COE will either come down then, or if not, we will have to stick to high COE, which will affect our plan.

@Lala81 what would the OMV of the Tiguan be?? 199k could also get the Camry, but probably different type of segment

Lol, Camry is a 200k car now.

Rather a Camry than vs the 191 Mazda hatch

Since Camry & Vezel, RON98 is wasted. BMW must put RON100. With sport+, the pull should be very violent.

Still prefer 98 Petrol,but i put SPC for Camry & Vezel,Shell for BMW.

It supposed to be every 5k km. For Camry, it will be 8 cents/L. It is still 40 cents/L saving over 98 😂

When I drove in 2019, 苏花公路 is not fully upgrade and completed yet. It was a mixture of old and new road. The drive is definitely not easy. Plus my rental car is a 2014 model 2.0L Camry, under power and poor handling on the winding road.

I think this Altis will be the last facelift design for this variant, the next version 2025/2026 will be brand new design like that US just like the Camry 9th gen XV80 that was introduced last year in US as our SG Camry still XV70. Did BM stop selling the hybrid Altis even with latest facelift? Just nice April got Car at Expo at hall 5, will drop by and look at the Altis. Today then I know our Altis facelift have better spec than latest poor Honda Civic that was not seen much on SG roads.

Agreed,for example my F22 really drive better than my Camry Hybrid.

u comparing harrier vs camry? or harrier vs Rav4? PI Rav4 hybrid seems like the more affordable option right now. Though of course it's bit long in the tooth liao. I think the camry has aged well aesthetically.

I don't think the current Camry sold by BMW is barebone especially OMV of $37k. For Aussie-spec Camry, Toyota Australia can do comparison New model not listed on Toyota Australia/Japan yet

@Spidey10 agreed. Camry vs accord it’s a very easy decision comparing the price. Only once in a blue moon I see the new accord 🤣 seriously curious how is kah motors doing ..0

that's why u dun see alot of accords or crv's on the roads nowadays.....thou I still see some camry's...

ASEAN version will be launched in Thailand next Monday https://paultan.org/2018/10/22/2018-toyota-camry-launching-in-thailand-on-oct-29