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  1. Another beautiful wagon, but unlikely to reach our shore... 308 SW GT For petrol, 3-cylinder engines with a capacity of 1.2 litres: PureTech 110 S&S BVM6, PureTech 130 S&S BVM6, PureTech 130 S&S EAT8. 308 SW Hybrid 2 rechargeable hybrids HYBRID 225 e-EAT8 HYBRID 180 e-EAT8)
  2. Consumers May Have Been Misled on Plug-In Hybrid Efficiency https://jalopnik.com/consumers-may-have-been-misled-on-plug-in-hybrid-effici-1850095950 New studies show plug-in hybrids emissions tend to be higher than advertised and electric mileage tends to be much lower when used in real-world conditions. By Owen Bellwood Published Friday 10 Feb 2023 5:30PM If you’re in the market for a new car and feel like you’d like to dip your toe into electrification then you might have considered a plug-in hybrid at one time or another. These cars combine the simplicity of a gas-powered car with the fuel savings of an EV, it’s a win-win, right? Well, that might not actually be the case, as a new report in Europe suggests plug-ins might not be the climate fix we once thought. On the surface, many plug-in hybrids promise mile after mile of emission-free driving thanks to their onboard batteries and electric motors. Then, once the electricity runs out, they switch over to an efficient gas motor to keep you going on longer journeys. Cars like the Kia Sorento and BMW 300e previously convinced me that such a setup could be perfect. But, a new report out of Europe suggests that they might not be the miracle midpoint between gas cars and EVs once thought. In fact, these kinds of cars could pollute “more than claimed” in city centers and on commutes. According to Transport & Environment, testing of three plug-in hybrid models widely available in Europe found that they pollute significantly more than claimed on city and commuter routes. It followed a similar study from the same site two years ago that found the same was true of PHEVs running longer routes as well. The site reports: “Three recent PHEV models, a BMW 3 Series, Peugeot 308 and Renault Megane, emitted more CO2 than advertised when tested on the road even when starting with a full battery. The BMW polluted three times its official rating when driven on a typical commuter route, according to the tests by Graz University of Technology, commissioned by T&E. “The Peugeot 308 and Renault Megane plug-in hybrids performed better but still polluted 20% and 70% more than claimed, respectively, despite the relatively short round-trip distance covered (55km).” In a commuter setting, the BMW tested was rated as producing 36 grams of CO2 per km (I refuse to convert this to ounces per foot, or whatever the American equivalent would be), but actually produced 112 grams in testing. The Renault was rated at 30 g/km but produced 50 g/km and the Peugeot was the closest to its rating with 33 g/km emitted compared to 27 g/km. Things were equally alarming when it came to measuring the electric range of the three models tested. According to T&E, only the Renault managed to hit its advertised all-electric range of 30 miles, while the BMW covered 74 percent of its 22 miles of electric range. The Peugeot fared the worst, reaching just over half of its supposed 37-mile range. Photo: Peugeot The Peugeot 308 should cover 37 miles on battery power alone. Obviously, you can’t take the poor results for these three cars and say this means that every plug-in hybrid model on sale today is worse than advertised. But, for the three cars tested to consistently perform below their ratings is concerning, especially as the whole attraction of buying a PHEV is to cut down your carbon emissions. So what does a study like this actually mean? Well, in the case of the three cars tested it means that automakers need to devise better means of calculating their emissions and electrical ranges if they want to be honest with consumers. According to T&E, it also means that such vehicles are being taxed incorrectly in Europe. The site claims that the emissions of the models tested were so unacceptable that these cars should be taxed based on their “actual pollution” and no longer be subsidies across the European Union. As it stands, PHEV buyers may qualify for up to €6,750 towards their purchase in certain markets.
  3. Behold the new Golf competitor from France. Peugeot probably won’t be too happy with what you are about to see, but we are extremely happy to share a batch of very revealing spy shots with the next-generation 308. What you can see in the gallery below is probably the final design of the French compact hatchback, which plays in the same segment as the VW Golf in Europe. The previous spy photos of the car showed prototypes wearing a lot of camouflage. However, these new shots give us a crystal clear look at the front end and it’s looking absolutely stunning. The front fascia has been completely redesigned compared to the outgoing model and it’s obviously taking inspiration from the new 508 and 208. The huge radiator grille is home to the brand’s new logo and it seems that in this case it also plays the role of a radar for some of the car’s safety systems. Above the logo, there’s a “308” badge, while the grille is flanked by sharp headlights with LED daytime running lights extending into the bumper. The little chrome caps between the grille and the lights could be for the washer nozzles. The lower section of the bumper features a very sculptured design with a trapezoidal shape of the lower grille. There are two little bumper extensions at each corner, though we get the feeling that something might be missing to connect the little fins - a lip spoiler or a diffuser of some sort.
  4. Reviving this topic for fun. Mainly looking at used unless otherwise stated. Didn't expect this list to grow so long. First 3 are my preference not in any particular order, the rest are also not in any order. I am quite curious if there are any long term reviews for the Peugeot 308 and Opel Astra because they are surprisingly common. 1. Mazda 6 wagon 2.5 – Looks good. Expensive. Expensive road tax. 522L boot on paper. 2. Subaru Levorg 1.6T – Looks good. Expensive. 1k cheaper road tax than Mz6. 522L boot on paper. 3. Hyundai i30 1.4T Wagon – Looks good. Cheaper than above 2. Cheaper road tax than above 2. Smaller dimensions than above 2. 602L, bigger boot capacity on paper than above 2. 4. Honda Shuttle – Very common, many used as PHV. Price/depre varies a lot – lower depre higher quantum vs lower quantum higher depre. Affordable road tax. 570L boot on paper. Unless buying new (PI-only, not sold by AD), high chance of getting ex-PHV. 5. Peugeot 308 SW 1.2T – Not too uncommon, also many PHV. Reasonable price/depre compared to i30 and Shuttle. Cheaper road tax than i30. 660L(!!) boot on paper. French reliability? 6. Opel Astra Sports Tourer 1.0T - Not too uncommon, also many PHV. Looks good. Reasonable price/depre compared to i30 and Shuttle. Cheapest road tax. 540L boot on paper. German = good? Unpopular German in Sg though. 7. Peugeot 508 SW 1.6T – Rare. Reasonable price/depre compared to all above. Looks good. Affordable road tax (same as Levorg). Can’t find an official boot capacity figure, seems to be in the low 500s. Strange then that the 308SW has such a huge boot. 8. Opel Insignia 2.0T – Super rare. Looks good. Reasonable price/depre for the specs compared to all above. 2L road tax. The only available used unit has high mileage. Almost 5m long! 256hp, 400nm torque!! 560L boot on paper. German = good? Unpopular German in Sg. 9. Seat Leon Sport Tourer 1.0T – Uncommon. Price/depre not that great for the specs. VAG car, for better or worse. Cheapest road tax. 587L boot on paper. 10. VW Golf Variant 1.4T – Uncommon. Expensive. It’s a VW, for better or worse. Affordable road tax. Apparently 600L boot on paper.
  5. Want your Peugeot 308 a bit more German? Enter the all-new Astra. source: https://www.motor1.com/news/519625/2022-opel-astra-specs-photos/ One of the oldest cars in Europe's hugely competitive compact segment is switching to the next generation, bringing a completely new design inside and out along with overhauled underpinnings. Once again assembled at home in Rüsselsheim, the sixth iteration of Opel's popular Astra has all the ingredients to go up against the giants in this class: Golf, Focus, Megane, and the Octavia. It also has to do battle with the mechanically related Peugeot 308, with the two sharing the EMP2 platform as both brands are part of Stellantis – the world's fourth-largest car manufacturer. Even though their bones are quite similar, the designers have done a great job at differentiating the two compact hatchbacks. The French version takes a bolder approach whereas its German cousin plays it safe with a cleaner appearance. Let's talk size. The new Astra has been stretched by four millimeters (0.15 inches) over the outgoing generation and is now 4,374 mm (172.1 in) long. Even though the overall length has barely changed, the wheelbase has been stretched significantly by 13 mm (0.5 in) to 2,675 mm (105.3 in) by shortening the front overhang. Width has increased quite a bit, at 1,860 mm (73.2 in) or about 51 mm (2 in) more than before. Opel goes as far as to say the hatchback has "coupe-like" lines, although some will beg to differ. A new Astra GTC would be nice, but given the current demand for three-door hatches, we wouldn't necessarily count on it. The car's increased footprint pays dividends in terms of cargo capacity on the adjustable load floor as it has grown by 52 liters (1.83 cubic feet) to 422 liters (14.9 cu ft) with the rear seats in place. Much like the exterior, the cabin is a vast departure from the Astra K by adopting the less-is-more approach with few conventional buttons. You still have shortcuts for often-used functions, but most of the settings are accessed through the 10-inch touchscreen of the infotainment system. To its left, a fully digital instrument cluster has the same size. As you would expect from a totally new car, Opel's new C-segment hatchback is brimming with tech. It gets the matrix LED technology from the flagship Insignia, with no fewer than 84 light-emitting diodes per headlight cluster. Cruise control with stop & go is available, as are a head-up display and a 360-degree camera. Opel doesn't go too deep with details about the powertrains, but you can imagine these will be quite similar to those of the new Peugeot 308. The German brand does confirm the 2022 Astra will be available with a choice of gasoline and diesel units with output varying from 110 hp (81 kW) to 225 hp (165 kW). For the very first time, a plug-in hybrid setup will be available and will come in two configurations. Depending on the powertrain, six-speed manual and eight-speed automatic transmissions will be offered. The order books will open this fall and the first customer deliveries are scheduled to take place in early 2022. Opel has already confirmed there will be a new wagon once again for those in need of a bigger cargo area. Expect the estate variant to be revealed in the coming months. While it would make sense for the company to have both body styles on display in September at the IAA in Munich, Opel has announced it will not attend the show this year. As a final note, it's worth mentioning this will be the final Astra with combustion engines in Europe considering Opel has vowed to go EV-only on the Old Continent by 2028.
  6. Hi, Just bought a used Peugeot 308 (8 years old) and realized the steering wheel is very heavy especially when parking. It’s so bad that my arms ache after reversing into a lot. Any idea why it’s like that?
  7. @MyCarmark I’m thinking of getting the Apple CarPlay for my Peugeot 1.2 from the link below. SG$ 438.36 31% Off | WIFI Wireless Apple Car Play Android Auto Module For Peugeot Citroen C4 Picasso DS4 DS3 308 508 208 2008 SMEG CarPlay Adapter https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLCTic6 But not sure where to install it, and also unsure if it works 😅 Anyone has any recommendation to install Apple CarPlay for Peugeot 308SW 1.2 in Singapore? Thanks!
  8. Peugeot is preparing the replacement of the current 307 dubbed 308. This, however, will not be just one successor, but a true full all new model range. Peugeot 3008 The first in line for launch will be the new four door in 2007 at the Frankfurt Motor Show, which will arrive in the dealerships in 2008. It is followed by a three door, station wagon, coupe-convertible in 2009 and finally – as a surprise – a so-called 3008. This one is – like Peugeot’s 1007– another van derivative from the 308 with a large rear door. The first photo is showing a computer image of how the 3008 could look like upon its release. The second photo is a first long lens shot of a heavily disguised prototype of the 3008 during a secret test drive. Peugeot 308 The third and fourth photos are showing a latest prototype of the four door 308 model. Power will come from a 2.2 four cylinder turbodiesel engine delivering 170 HP as well as the new generation 1.6 litre petrol engine delivering between 75 and 170 HP. It was developed in co-operation with BMW. A particularly sporty RC version performing 210 HP is to follow some time later.
  9. Anyone knows where to install Apple CarPlay for Peugeot 308SW 1.2 Thought of getting this online and get someone to install it, but unsure if it works. SG$ 438.36 31% Off | WIFI Wireless Apple Car Play Android Auto Module For Peugeot Citroen C4 Picasso DS4 DS3 308 508 208 2008 SMEG CarPlay Adapter https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOmqSvk
  10. 6633

    2015 Peugeot 308SW

    I recently bought a used 2016 Peugeot 308 SW Allure PureTech, Here are some of my feedback after driving for awhile Pros 1) 1.2 litre but drives like a 1.6 litre (above). Acceleration, cruising and over-taking is a breeze. Doesnt feel like a 1.2 litre car at all. Powerful 2) Huge boot space, i keep my 2 foldable bikes and still have ample space to place my other barangs. 3) For a 2016 car, It has options that only the recent high-end cars have including blind-spot monitoring, lane-control, park-assist, keyless entry and start stop button etc 4) The interior is nice, and doesnt look cheap - Especially the huge moon-roof. 5) Servicing is cheap - i did mine for $120-$150 (depending the brand of engine old u choose) at a third-party workshop since AutoFrance warranty expires 6) Well insulated - very quiet inside while driving Cons 1) Fuel Consumption is on the high, so if you are planning to buy this for fuel economy... dont. i am doing only 8-9km/litre instead of the factory spec of 15.4 km/litre 2) Not the most comfortable ride (compared to other cars in this category). A bit bumpy at times 3) The centre console touch-screen controls everything including the aircon. Very hard to use when driving. Forget about the GPS navigation on the console, its just impossible to use. So i have been using my mobile Google Map app. If i were to rate this car, i will definitely give this a overall rating of 8/10. I recommend all who are considering a station-wagon or car to have a look at this car. For more discussion,sharing and tips etc regarding the Peugeot 308 SW Allure Puretech, you can join the local (Singapore) Facebook group for this brand/model https://www.facebook.com/groups/258883602773221 Cheers
  11. Jerms

    Peugeot 308 CC

    Just saw a new 308CC otr today.. quite nice actually... anybody know how much isit going for?
  12. When people say Jap cars are built for reliability, believe them. Sure, they may not always look the sexiest, in fact most Jap cars look like how people in their society procreate; mechanical and functional. I was foolish enough to own a used Peugeot 308 until recently, attracted by its looks and price. Unfortunately, I did not take the hint either when the used car shark agreed to my few thousands off his sticker price. To be fair, I did not own the car long enough (3 years) to experience more of the Pug issues many of its owners highlight. It was very comfortable to drive (to me) and I drove it up to KL many times (excluding the more regular trips to JB and nearer destinations). The furthest was to Penang and back in two days, maintaining 130kmh with the cruise control. And the good thing was , even the malaysian abang car thieves didn't want to bother stealing a Pug; I once parked it for 5 days at the KLIA long-term parking, the only SG plate car there and returned to find it untouched (Try that with your Honda or Toyota). What did I hate? Upon receiving ownership of the car, I was forced to spend $500 because the air-con relay (or something like that) was damaged and I had been looking like a fool sweating it out for the first few days before finally taking it to a specialist workshop. $500 for a small piece of plastic? The workshop's reply was "These kind of cars, you should expect this type of pricing", and that mantra followed throughout my ownership of the car. As it was, I had never come across a failure of this 'relay' in other cars, especially since the car was only 2 years old at that time. In any case, almost every part / item linked to the brand was comparatively more expensive than a Jap / Korean car. I did not find the rationale often given by workshops and even the parts importer reasonable; "Peugeot is a 'conti' car". Well if its a Merc or BMW, fine. But Peugeot is a bread and butter, budget, low-at most mid range brand European make. Being budget conscious, for minor or regular servicing like oil change, I usually bought the parts from the parts importer (not agent) and had them changed at a normal (not the specialist) workshop. There came problem 2. In the initial phase of ownership, I had difficulty finding a workshop near my area which was willing to even do oil /spark plug change even though I had the oil filter and plugs with me (obviously the workshop did not have these on hand). Their reason for turning me away? One uncle who was changing the oil of a Honda stepped out, saw my car and said, "Sorry this brand I cannot do". Another time, my first flat tyre with this car, I called a nearby tyre shop and asked for a tow and possibly replace the tyre. When I was asked what model, and replied, the guy said, "Sorry Peugeot we don't handle because the wheel need special tool. You go back to the agent". Special tool? Apparently workshops in JB (which I went to later on) did not need any special tools. Cannot change oil? Just use the vacuum pump to suck out the oil and fill it back like any other car? So, those were the issues I faced initially. Of course, there were local workshops which could handle the car, and it took me a while to find them. It's just that you can't go to any random workshop to get things fixed or done as you could with a more common brand. And having read the terrible service by the agent and ridiculous prices for servicing, I never stepped there at all. At the 5th year mark of the car's COE, wear and tear started to show up. E.g. terrible cold rattling of the EP6 engine (which was actually present since the day I bought the car), the moon roof fabric starting to peel off, but my biggest fear was the engine. It seemed that some say the rattling could lead to very expensive repairs, but some said it was normal. And thankfully, I did not have to encounter the electronics going haywire and christmas trees lighting up, which some owners experience. In the end though, I decided to end my Peugeot adventure shortly after that. Would I buy another Peugeot? No. Ultimately, for the middle class like myself, money matters and the potential of having to spend a lot, makes owning this car not a practical option. Sure, there are lemons for every brand, but there must be a reason why sgcarmart and carousell has so many Altises etc with extended COEs and hardly or no Peugeots / Alfas / Citroens.
  13. Dear bros, My turbo pipe was diagnosed to be leaking and it depletes my engine oil. I would like to check if any bros know of any reputable workshop who is able to repair/replace turbo piping at reasonable price? I was quoted nearly $600 for the replacement at Autofrance. Would appreciate if you could share here.
  14. Kelpie

    Peugeot 308 T

    Hi all, Any one driving a Peugeot 308 T here? It is selling cheap in JB and wondering whether the accessories, support and maintenance have been alright for this French car? Please feedback and Thank you very much. Regards,
  15. Hey bro Heng, I am somewhat in the same situation as you. I am considering between the Astra 1.0tT and the Peugeot 308. Test drove both cars and finally decided to buy the 308. There are 2 main reasons why I choose the 308 over the Astra. 1) The drive of 308 feels much smoother than the Astra 1.0T. But I believe the 1.4T should be as smooth as the 308. 2) This is the main reason why I chose the 308 over the Astra. The interior built quality. The look and feel of the interior of 308 is much more premium as compare to the Astra. One very simple example, just look at the park button of both cars and you will understand what I am saying. When you sit in the rear passenger seat (Astra) with the door close, you will notice the full door panel is made of hard plastic (very cheap feel IMO) and the window button is placed at a very awkward position. Also because of the sloping roof design, the headrooom is pretty limited and thus has a cramp feeling. My advise will be for you to go test drive both cars and see which you prefer more. But for value for money and built quality, 308 gets my vote.
  16. 645,349http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/TVA7xwcVe3I/AAAAAAAD8vM/mOZgS4syeOY/s800/2011-Peugeot-308-Facelift-2.jpg[/img] http://paultan.org/2011/02/08/pe ... grille-and-led-drl/ 308cc 308sw
  17. Starting our day with a Hyundai Elantra and Peugeot 308. Get a quote via WhatsApp for your car now 9 Consecutive Years sgCarMart Star Merchant Winner (for Solar Film Category)
  18. Tried both Ford Focus 1.0 wagon and Peugeot 308 wagon. Am deciding between the 2 as both are same price. Is it me or somehow I felt the focus 1.0 seemed more responsible and powerful than the 1.2 liter 308? For focus, from stationary with a slight lag when the pedal is depressed once past 1.5krpm the pull is very noticeable, unlike the Peugeot 308, acceleration is pretty linear, feeling softer actually though I have no idea actual acceleration is indeed slower. It could possibly be the focus having a stiffer setup. I also felt that the 308 has a noticeable lag at every gear change while the focus shifts much quicker. I like the innards of the Peugeot 308, well equipped yet looks minimalist though I like the external of the ford which is like a mini Aston Martin. The Peugeot also feels more comfy. What do you guys think of these 2?
  19. Honda Fit/Jazz and this City HB are in different category. The former are compact hatch (~3.9m - 4.1m), while the latter are mid size hatchback (~4.3m - 4.5m) To put things in perspective, Honda Fit/Jazz should be compared with the followings: Citroën C3 Ford Fiesta Hyundai i20 Kia Rio Hatchback Mazda 2 Hatchback Nissan Note Peugeot 208 Renault Clio Seat Ibiza Skoda Fabia Suzuki Swift Toyota Yaris VW Polo While Honda City Hatchback should be compared with: Ford Focus Hyundai i30 Kia Ceed Mazda 3 Hatchback Nissan Pulsar Opel Astra Peugeot 308 Renault Megane Seat Leon Skoda Scala Subaru Imprezza Toyota Corolla Hatchback VW Golf As for the much talk about Honda Shuttle, although its length is barely 40mm longer than the City Hatchback, but it is more in teh wagon / estate category than hatchback. Or to be more precise, it is a Honda Fit Estate. See it for yourselves below.
  20. There are a some larger hatchbacks with really good boot space. Take a look at the Peugeot 308 or the Skoda Scala. If you're willing to expand into wagons then the list grows significantly...
  21. Thanks for the extensive list of comparison. I was also deciding on a hatchback some six months ago, although I didn’t make such a long shortlist: It boiled down to the VW Golf 1.4 EQP version and the Puegeot 308. The VW Golf felt nicer and more solid, but its Achilles heel is the 7 speed DSG, which I had witnessed its breakdowns in previous other VW cars in the family. The Peugeot 308 has an traditional six speed gearbox made in collaboration with Aisin, hence my confidence. Finally decided on the 308, as I thought no point having the sword of Damocles hanging over my head on the DSG issue. Agreed that the rear legroom of the 308 is less than satisfactory, but I usually drive alone so it’s not too much of an issue for me.
  22. http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/review.php?AID=47 I was looking fwd to testing this car but it sure was a letdown...O well..
  23. The new 308.. From the side profile, dont see much diff from the 307
  24. My Peugeot SE informed me that the Peugeot 308 would be classified under neutral, when the VES (which replaces the current CEVS) kicks in on 1st January 2018. The Peugeot 308 currently has a $10,000 rebate under the CEVS. For your information, Peugeot has sold out the 3008 SUV for registration within this year, so they are not selling it anymore with CEVS rebate; the 3008 1.2 PureTech also has a $10,000 rebate.
  25. Dear MCF fellow forummers, Thanks to everyone's contribution over the past 29 pages. I would have never considered a Peugeot, much less a Peugeot hatchback 308, if not for MCF. I had a test drive of the Peugeot 308 17" version at the AutoFrance Alexandra showroom and indeed I find it was a good drive for its price point. Most importantly, I find the price competitive for the level of equipment, cf. VW Golf. I was still very much leaning towards another VW after having bought three of them and still owning two currently for my family members' use but I think I would likely switch camp from VW to the Lions soon. Every car or consumer good has its pluses and minuses, there is no single product that would fit everyone. Having owned three VW, and two separate Mechatronic unit failures (albeit covered under warranty), I am would like to give the VW DSG technology a pass this time round, albeit the drive is great, and VW Singapore service centre's level of service notwithstanding (I'm being sarcastic here). In my humble opinion, the Peugeot 307 wins hands down with its Aisin 6 speed gearbox and its PureTech 1.2 engine, and the version offered in Singapore (although very much stripped down to reduce OMV and associated taxes) is still a compelling proposition. For the same price point, a Toyota Corolla Altis would probably been more hassle free, albeit a more sedated driving experience. I think I would take a leap of faith and join the Pride of Lions soon. Thank you.
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