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  1. A handsome looking 7 seater (better looking than the 2nd gen Skoda Kodiaq imo), in the latest iteration. The third-generation Peugeot 5008 plugs into Europe's already crowded SUV segment in more ways than one. It's available with a fully electric drivetrain but you can also have the three-row family hauler with a plug-in hybrid setup. Alternatively, the French brand part of Stellantis plans to sell a cheaper mild-hybrid model as well. Essentially, the new 5008 is an enlarged version of the latest 3008 introduced in 2023. It sits on the STLA Medium platform and has the following dimensions: 4,788mm long, 1,890mm wide, and 1,689mm tall, with a generous wheelbase of 2,898mm. While SUVs nowadays tend to have swoopy rooflines, the new Peugeot 5008 retains the boxy shape of its predecessor to maximize interior space. It largely inherits the design of its E-3008 smaller brother, complete with the same 21-inch display positioned atop the dashboard. There are also 10 customizable touch controls providing shortcuts to often-used functions accessible from the center console. The most affordable version will be powered by a turbocharged 1.2-liter gasoline engine fitted with 48V technology. This tiny three-cylinder mill sends 136 horsepower to the front wheels via a six-speed, dual-clutch automatic transmission featuring a built-in electric motor. The plug-in hybrid combines a 150-hp combustion engine with a 123-hp electric motor for a total system output of 195 hp channeled through a seven-speed, dual-clutch auto. This PHEV can cover more than 80Km on electric power before the gas engine starts feeding from the 60L fuel tank. Then there’s the fully electric E-5008 model available in multiple configurations. The single-motor, front-wheel-drive versions come with 210 hp and 228 hp, both of which offer an instant torque of 254 pound-feet. Step up to the dual-motor, all-wheel-drive model, and the combined output is rated at 318 hp. Stick to the front-wheel-drive model and Peugeot installs a 73.0-kilowatt-hour battery good for 500Km. The bigger 98.0-kWh pack means fewer stops at a charging station since the range grows to 660Km. The dual-motor, all-wheel-drive version gets the bigger battery but efficiency takes a hit due to the vehicle's higher curb weight. Those batteries are guaranteed for eight years or 100,000 miles during which Peugeot is sure charging capacity won't drop below 70 percent. A heat pump comes as standard, as does the 11-kW charger. You can optionally get a 22-kilowatt charger, while DC charging can support up to 160 kW. In this case, it takes 10 minutes to put enough energy in the battery for 100Km. Spending half an hour at a charging station replenishes the battery from 20 to 80 percent.
  2. Price of this Peugeot 3008 has been further reduced to $100,800. Looks like a good deal. $14K a year is lower annual depreciation than most Japanese and Korean cars. 👍 https://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=1259392&DL=2729&utm_content=SLeligible
  3. @Ct3833 I am writing this as a feed back as I am disappointed with the unprofessional service of Oasis Cars Pte Ltd, and I would like to provide feedback on my experience. On February 9th, I initiated contact with Alan from Oasis Cars Pte Ltd, expressing my interest in viewing a Peugeot 3008 1.6A PureTech EAT8 Active. A viewing appointment was scheduled for February 13th at 3 pm, with Alan Sim as our agent. Upon our initial viewing, my wife and I found the car appealing, but we requested additional time to assess it thoroughly. Alan was informed that we would return the following day with my father-in-law for a more comprehensive evaluation. He disclosed that he would be on leave the next day and mentioned another potential buyer, emphasizing that the car was priced $10,000 below market rate. We arranged for my father-in-law to inspect the car on the same day at 6:30 pm within the car park premises. Despite not being permitted to drive the car outside the parking area, we decided to purchase it and informed Alan of our decision, indicating that we would confirm on February 16th when he returned to work. Alan, however, revealed that another potential buyer had scheduled an appointment for February 16th at 12 pm and would secure the car with a deposit. During this viewing, Alan assured us of paint touch-ups and claimed that the car had recently undergone servicing and was under warranty until June 2025. Although the initially quoted deposit was $1,000, it was later revised to $2,000. We opted to place a $45,000 deposit against the total price of $102,500. We explicitly mentioned our intention to decide on the final deposit amount after selling our current car, a request initially met with resistance, citing potential impacts on Alan's commission. However, after explaining our rationale, he agreed. Regarding the loan source, Alan mentioned HL bank, and we indicated our intent to research various banks for the most favorable interest rates. For insurance, he promised three quotes, and he mentioned a penalty of $150 for choosing an insurer outside the provided options. We signed a sales agreement and departed, anticipating a follow-up on February 19th for the loan amount. On February 16th, Alan provided three insurance quotes. On February 17th, I contacted him, expressing our decision to place a $50,000 deposit and inquiring about the estimated handover date. Additionally, I sought his commitment to assist with paint touch-ups, inspection, cleaning, brake pads, camera installation, tire thread measurement, and the earliest collection time. He responded affirmatively to most requests. When questioned about the car's last service and warranty documentation, Alan stated that we needed to update our details at Peugeot after purchase, and the warranty certificate would be provided. On February 19th, I followed up on the handover timeline, to which Alan responded by sending an e-application link for a bank loan. Upon reviewing the link, we discovered that the loan source was HL bank. Uncomfortable with this choice, we conducted research and decided to pursue DBS for a potential rebate. Upon communicating our intention to explore alternative financing with DBS, Alan's tone changed, expressing reservations and emphasizing that his company would not receive any commission if we applied independently. We also informed him of the requirement for 12 months of CPF contributions and a tax statement for the loan application, prompting a change in the loan applicant to my name, as my wife had temporarily stopped working post-pregnancy. Subsequently, we requested the service record and warranty card for the car on the same day. Alan advised us to retrieve these documents from Peugeot, citing their paperless system. Our attempts to obtain the records independently were unsuccessful, as the Peugeot website and app indicated that only the current car dealer or owner had access. Upon encountering difficulties, we requested Alan's assistance in obtaining the service record, at which point he expressed frustration, started shouting in the phone, claiming he could have terminated the agreement earlier due to changes in the loan applicant. He abruptly ended the call, leaving us shocked by his change in demeanor. Upon reflection, we discovered that Oasis Cars Pte Ltd has limited listings on SGCarMart (13 in total, with only 2 available for sale), no visible reviews, and a temporarily closed status on Google Maps. We consulted the Consumer Protection Act, Chapter 52A, and found that, since the sales agreement did not outline any refund policy, the company cannot exercise the right to retain the deposit without valid grounds (Clause 4, attached). Given the aforementioned circumstances, uncertainties, and the discomfort arising from the interactions, we formally requested a refund of our initial deposit of $2,000 from Oasis Cars Pte Ltd. In response, Alan referred to a clause in the sales agreement stating that the balance is due within two weeks of the purchase date, and failing to fulfill the agreement would result in the forfeiture of the deposit. We explained that this clause does not address a refund policy, and, based on the Consumer Protection Act, Chapter 52A, we believe the company does not have grounds to withhold the deposit. Despite our attempts to resolve the matter, Alan has refused it unmercifully. I would not recommend this company to any serious buyers.
  4. New design language, riding on the popularity of fastback and crossover. BTW, it is the cousin of Citroen C5X. Peugeot 408 GT Peugeot 408 HYBRID
  5. @shaunlwl I am writing this as a feed back as I am disappointed with the unprofessional service of Oasis Cars Pte Ltd, and I would like to provide feedback on my experience. On February 9th, I initiated contact with Alan from Oasis Cars Pte Ltd, expressing my interest in viewing a Peugeot 3008 1.6A PureTech EAT8 Active. A viewing appointment was scheduled for February 13th at 3 pm, with Alan Sim as our agent. Upon our initial viewing, my wife and I found the car appealing, but we requested additional time to assess it thoroughly. Alan was informed that we would return the following day with my father-in-law for a more comprehensive evaluation. He disclosed that he would be on leave the next day and mentioned another potential buyer, emphasizing that the car was priced $10,000 below market rate. We arranged for my father-in-law to inspect the car on the same day at 6:30 pm within the car park premises. Despite not being permitted to drive the car outside the parking area, we decided to purchase it and informed Alan of our decision, indicating that we would confirm on February 16th when he returned to work. Alan, however, revealed that another potential buyer had scheduled an appointment for February 16th at 12 pm and would secure the car with a deposit. During this viewing, Alan assured us of paint touch-ups and claimed that the car had recently undergone servicing and was under warranty until June 2025. Although the initially quoted deposit was $1,000, it was later revised to $2,000. We opted to place a $45,000 deposit against the total price of $102,500. We explicitly mentioned our intention to decide on the final deposit amount after selling our current car, a request initially met with resistance, citing potential impacts on Alan's commission. However, after explaining our rationale, he agreed. Regarding the loan source, Alan mentioned HL bank, and we indicated our intent to research various banks for the most favorable interest rates. For insurance, he promised three quotes, and he mentioned a penalty of $150 for choosing an insurer outside the provided options. We signed a sales agreement and departed, anticipating a follow-up on February 19th for the loan amount. On February 16th, Alan provided three insurance quotes. On February 17th, I contacted him, expressing our decision to place a $50,000 deposit and inquiring about the estimated handover date. Additionally, I sought his commitment to assist with paint touch-ups, inspection, cleaning, brake pads, camera installation, tire thread measurement, and the earliest collection time. He responded affirmatively to most requests. When questioned about the car's last service and warranty documentation, Alan stated that we needed to update our details at Peugeot after purchase, and the warranty certificate would be provided. On February 19th, I followed up on the handover timeline, to which Alan responded by sending an e-application link for a bank loan. Upon reviewing the link, we discovered that the loan source was HL bank. Uncomfortable with this choice, we conducted research and decided to pursue DBS for a potential rebate. Upon communicating our intention to explore alternative financing with DBS, Alan's tone changed, expressing reservations and emphasizing that his company would not receive any commission if we applied independently. We also informed him of the requirement for 12 months of CPF contributions and a tax statement for the loan application, prompting a change in the loan applicant to my name, as my wife had temporarily stopped working post-pregnancy. Subsequently, we requested the service record and warranty card for the car on the same day. Alan advised us to retrieve these documents from Peugeot, citing their paperless system. Our attempts to obtain the records independently were unsuccessful, as the Peugeot website and app indicated that only the current car dealer or owner had access. Upon encountering difficulties, we requested Alan's assistance in obtaining the service record, at which point he expressed frustration, started shouting in the phone, claiming he could have terminated the agreement earlier due to changes in the loan applicant. He abruptly ended the call, leaving us shocked by his change in demeanor. Upon reflection, we discovered that Oasis Cars Pte Ltd has limited listings on SGCarMart (13 in total, with only 2 available for sale), no visible reviews, and a temporarily closed status on Google Maps. We consulted the Consumer Protection Act, Chapter 52A, and found that, since the sales agreement did not outline any refund policy, the company cannot exercise the right to retain the deposit without valid grounds (Clause 4, attached). Given the aforementioned circumstances, uncertainties, and the discomfort arising from the interactions, we formally requested a refund of our initial deposit of $2,000 from Oasis Cars Pte Ltd. In response, Alan referred to a clause in the sales agreement stating that the balance is due within two weeks of the purchase date, and failing to fulfill the agreement would result in the forfeiture of the deposit. We explained that this clause does not address a refund policy, and, based on the Consumer Protection Act, Chapter 52A, we believe the company does not have grounds to withhold the deposit. Despite our attempts to resolve the matter, Alan has refused it unmercifully. I would not recommend this company to any serious buyers.
  6. @shaunlwl I am writing this as a feed back as I am disappointed with the unprofessional service of Oasis Cars Pte Ltd, and I would like to provide feedback on my experience. On February 9th, I initiated contact with Alan from Oasis Cars Pte Ltd, expressing my interest in viewing a Peugeot 3008 1.6A PureTech EAT8 Active. A viewing appointment was scheduled for February 13th at 3 pm, with Alan Sim as our agent. Upon our initial viewing, my wife and I found the car appealing, but we requested additional time to assess it thoroughly. Alan was informed that we would return the following day with my father-in-law for a more comprehensive evaluation. He disclosed that he would be on leave the next day and mentioned another potential buyer, emphasizing that the car was priced $10,000 below market rate. We arranged for my father-in-law to inspect the car on the same day at 6:30 pm within the car park premises. Despite not being permitted to drive the car outside the parking area, we decided to purchase it and informed Alan of our decision, indicating that we would confirm on February 16th when he returned to work. Alan, however, revealed that another potential buyer had scheduled an appointment for February 16th at 12 pm and would secure the car with a deposit. During this viewing, Alan assured us of paint touch-ups and claimed that the car had recently undergone servicing and was under warranty until June 2025. Although the initially quoted deposit was $1,000, it was later revised to $2,000. We opted to place a $45,000 deposit against the total price of $102,500. We explicitly mentioned our intention to decide on the final deposit amount after selling our current car, a request initially met with resistance, citing potential impacts on Alan's commission. However, after explaining our rationale, he agreed. Regarding the loan source, Alan mentioned HL bank, and we indicated our intent to research various banks for the most favorable interest rates. For insurance, he promised three quotes, and he mentioned a penalty of $150 for choosing an insurer outside the provided options. We signed a sales agreement and departed, anticipating a follow-up on February 19th for the loan amount. On February 16th, Alan provided three insurance quotes. On February 17th, I contacted him, expressing our decision to place a $50,000 deposit and inquiring about the estimated handover date. Additionally, I sought his commitment to assist with paint touch-ups, inspection, cleaning, brake pads, camera installation, tire thread measurement, and the earliest collection time. He responded affirmatively to most requests. When questioned about the car's last service and warranty documentation, Alan stated that we needed to update our details at Peugeot after purchase, and the warranty certificate would be provided. On February 19th, I followed up on the handover timeline, to which Alan responded by sending an e-application link for a bank loan. Upon reviewing the link, we discovered that the loan source was HL bank. Uncomfortable with this choice, we conducted research and decided to pursue DBS for a potential rebate. Upon communicating our intention to explore alternative financing with DBS, Alan's tone changed, expressing reservations and emphasizing that his company would not receive any commission if we applied independently. We also informed him of the requirement for 12 months of CPF contributions and a tax statement for the loan application, prompting a change in the loan applicant to my name, as my wife had temporarily stopped working post-pregnancy. Subsequently, we requested the service record and warranty card for the car on the same day. Alan advised us to retrieve these documents from Peugeot, citing their paperless system. Our attempts to obtain the records independently were unsuccessful, as the Peugeot website and app indicated that only the current car dealer or owner had access. Upon encountering difficulties, we requested Alan's assistance in obtaining the service record, at which point he expressed frustration, started shouting in the phone, claiming he could have terminated the agreement earlier due to changes in the loan applicant. He abruptly ended the call, leaving us shocked by his change in demeanor. Upon reflection, we discovered that Oasis Cars Pte Ltd has limited listings on SGCarMart (13 in total, with only 2 available for sale), no visible reviews, and a temporarily closed status on Google Maps. We consulted the Consumer Protection Act, Chapter 52A, and found that, since the sales agreement did not outline any refund policy, the company cannot exercise the right to retain the deposit without valid grounds (Clause 4, attached). Given the aforementioned circumstances, uncertainties, and the discomfort arising from the interactions, we formally requested a refund of our initial deposit of $2,000 from Oasis Cars Pte Ltd. In response, Alan referred to a clause in the sales agreement stating that the balance is due within two weeks of the purchase date, and failing to fulfill the agreement would result in the forfeiture of the deposit. We explained that this clause does not address a refund policy, and, based on the Consumer Protection Act, Chapter 52A, we believe the company does not have grounds to withhold the deposit. Despite our attempts to resolve the matter, Alan has refused it unmercifully. I would not recommend this company to any serious buyers.
  7. I am writing this as a feed back as I am disappointed with the unprofessional service of Oasis Cars Pte Ltd, and I would like to provide feedback on my experience. On February 9th, I initiated contact with Alan from Oasis Cars Pte Ltd, expressing my interest in viewing a Peugeot 3008 1.6A PureTech EAT8 Active. A viewing appointment was scheduled for February 13th at 3 pm, with Alan Sim as our agent. Upon our initial viewing, my wife and I found the car appealing, but we requested additional time to assess it thoroughly. Alan was informed that we would return the following day with my father-in-law for a more comprehensive evaluation. He disclosed that he would be on leave the next day and mentioned another potential buyer, emphasizing that the car was priced $10,000 below market rate. We arranged for my father-in-law to inspect the car on the same day at 6:30 pm within the car park premises. Despite not being permitted to drive the car outside the parking area, we decided to purchase it and informed Alan of our decision, indicating that we would confirm on February 16th when he returned to work. Alan, however, revealed that another potential buyer had scheduled an appointment for February 16th at 12 pm and would secure the car with a deposit. During this viewing, Alan assured us of paint touch-ups and claimed that the car had recently undergone servicing and was under warranty until June 2025. Although the initially quoted deposit was $1,000, it was later revised to $2,000. We opted to place a $45,000 deposit against the total price of $102,500. We explicitly mentioned our intention to decide on the final deposit amount after selling our current car, a request initially met with resistance, citing potential impacts on Alan's commission. However, after explaining our rationale, he agreed. Regarding the loan source, Alan mentioned HL bank, and we indicated our intent to research various banks for the most favorable interest rates. For insurance, he promised three quotes, and he mentioned a penalty of $150 for choosing an insurer outside the provided options. We signed a sales agreement and departed, anticipating a follow-up on February 19th for the loan amount. On February 16th, Alan provided three insurance quotes. On February 17th, I contacted him, expressing our decision to place a $50,000 deposit and inquiring about the estimated handover date. Additionally, I sought his commitment to assist with paint touch-ups, inspection, cleaning, brake pads, camera installation, tire thread measurement, and the earliest collection time. He responded affirmatively to most requests. When questioned about the car's last service and warranty documentation, Alan stated that we needed to update our details at Peugeot after purchase, and the warranty certificate would be provided. On February 19th, I followed up on the handover timeline, to which Alan responded by sending an e-application link for a bank loan. Upon reviewing the link, we discovered that the loan source was HL bank. Uncomfortable with this choice, we conducted research and decided to pursue DBS for a potential rebate. Upon communicating our intention to explore alternative financing with DBS, Alan's tone changed, expressing reservations and emphasizing that his company would not receive any commission if we applied independently. We also informed him of the requirement for 12 months of CPF contributions and a tax statement for the loan application, prompting a change in the loan applicant to my name, as my wife had temporarily stopped working post-pregnancy. Subsequently, we requested the service record and warranty card for the car on the same day. Alan advised us to retrieve these documents from Peugeot, citing their paperless system. Our attempts to obtain the records independently were unsuccessful, as the Peugeot website and app indicated that only the current car dealer or owner had access. Upon encountering difficulties, we requested Alan's assistance in obtaining the service record, at which point he expressed frustration, started shouting in the phone, claiming he could have terminated the agreement earlier due to changes in the loan applicant. He abruptly ended the call, leaving us shocked by his change in demeanor. Upon reflection, we discovered that Oasis Cars Pte Ltd has limited listings on SGCarMart (13 in total, with only 2 available for sale), no visible reviews, and a temporarily closed status on Google Maps. We consulted the Consumer Protection Act, Chapter 52A, and found that, since the sales agreement did not outline any refund policy, the company cannot exercise the right to retain the deposit without valid grounds (Clause 4, attached). Given the aforementioned circumstances, uncertainties, and the discomfort arising from the interactions, we formally requested a refund of our initial deposit of $2,000 from Oasis Cars Pte Ltd. In response, Alan referred to a clause in the sales agreement stating that the balance is due within two weeks of the purchase date, and failing to fulfill the agreement would result in the forfeiture of the deposit. We explained that this clause does not address a refund policy, and, based on the Consumer Protection Act, Chapter 52A, we believe the company does not have grounds to withhold the deposit. Despite our attempts to resolve the matter, Alan has refused it unmercifully. I would not recommend this company to any serious buyers.
  8. @gandyman the new kodiaq’a rear is awful, front is decent.. not sure when the facelift will be coming to sg? As for Peugeot it’s 1.2T, with full load I think the engine will be screaming for help
  9. @gandyman I’m looking around at 7 seaters SUV. Not much option in Singapore, only Nissan x trail, Skoda kodiaq, Peugeot 5008 and GLB180. Upcoming Kia sorento and Hyundai Santa Fe if you can wait, should be out around Q3
  10. Perhaps the owners of the new Peugeot models can weigh in Has French reliability and quality changed in the last few years? 😀
  11. Dear Mycarforum members, We are from Oasis Cars Pte Ltd. Refer to Kannan92 post on their terrible experience with Oasis Cars Pte Ltd, we would like to reply to the fellow community here in the forum and Kannan92. We are also aware that from the Google reviewer Sajivani Thanabal and Kannan Vijakumar leave a very BAD review in our company profile. We will reply to the Google review when we claim our account back as we are not active in Google. During our Chinese New Year Celebration on 13/02/24, Customer came to view the car with her husband in the afternoon. They test drive the car during the viewing. In the evening, she came back again with her husband and father-in-law to test drive the car again. After they test drive the car, She want to confirm the purchase of the car and placed a deposit. Yes, we did mention to her that we will touch up the paintwork as agreed. 1) We inform her that we will touch up the painwork when she collects the car. We inform her that the car is serviced by Agent. Last serviced by Agent is October 2023. The car come with Agent warranty till June 2025. As for the loan, Alan have informed her that we will do the loan application under HL Bank at 2.78% interest rate for her as we have loan commission. She agreed before she sign the sales agreement. We also given her a discount of $1300 from the advertised price at the point of sale. 1) 1 week later after she signed the sales agreement, she changed her mind. She wants to do the loan by herself as she claimed that DBS will give her a rebate of $300. We wish to highlight 1) The car is in good working condition. Customer came to test drive the car twice on 13/02/24. The car come with Agent warranty till June 2025. 2) She agreed that Oasis car will submit the loan application as our company get the loan commission. We hope that customer understand that when she wants to place a deposit and sign the sales agreement. It mean that she want to reserve and purchase the car. When both buyer and seller signed the sales agreement, that mean both parties need to follow what is agreed. Oasis Cars Pte Ltd have fulfil what we promised in the sales agreement but she do not want to submit her loan documents for the loan application. We receive an email from Consumers Association of Singapore (CASE) on 28 Feb for her complaint. We have explained and reply the same to CASE. We also extended the deadline to 04 March for our company to submit loan application under DBS for her but she still refused to submit her loan documents. From Google reviewer Kanna Vijakumar, They have purchase a Kia Niro from salesman Gary from SDAS( Sime Darby Auto Selection). I am glad they are happy with their Kia Niro and the exceptional service. Since she is so satisfied with SDAS. I hope customer can check with Gary from SDAS( Sime Darby Auto Selection). If a Customer purchase and signed a sales agreement with Loan for a car from SDAS( Sime Darby Auto Selection) After 1 week the customer changed her mind and decided to apply her loan by herself to get the $300 rebate. 1) Do SDAS( Sime Darby Auto Selection) allow without any penalty? 2) Is that any penalty if the customer back out a deal? Oasis cars is a small company registered in 2014. We take in all the cars without any finance for the past 10 years. Because we didn’t borrow any money from the finance company, we do not need to pay any interest. We passed all the savings to our customer. It also explained why we can do immediate transfer of ownership when customer come to collect their car. If customer is worry about the condition of the car, she can request to send to Agent for an inspection. Collection of the car and transfer of ownership can also be done in Agent showroom after verify all the issue. Oasis cars Pte Ltd do not have any hidden costs or charge her any admin fee. We rely on the small profit on the cars, loan commission, insurance commission to pay our employee salaries and overhead. It is very common that the used cars dealers in Singapore submit the loan application for customer to earn the commission. For humanity and reason, we hope customer can be fair to Alan. If customer want to changed her mind and decide to change from Peugeot 3008 to Kia Niro. Please do not try to break other salesman rice bowl. To reserve a car for customer, we need to pay for the carpark and depreciation of a vehicle. $2000 deposit is barely enough to cover for the reservation. Some company may even sue the customer if he/she break a contract. SDAS( Sime Darby Auto Selection) is a very good company and we hope that you can continue support them for your future purchase of vehicle. Hope for everyone kind understanding. Thank you very much. Oasis Cars Pte Ltd
  12. Buy from the big ADs which have used car arm. Premium, Sime Darby, Borneo, Republic, etc. Slightly more costly but at least peace of mind. They have a reputation to maintain. But why a Peugeot?
  13. GT Version http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508_gt/peugeot_508_gt_14.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508_gt/peugeot_508_gt_9.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508_gt/peugeot_508_gt_94.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508_gt/peugeot_508_gt_940.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508_gt/peugeot_508_gt_77.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508_gt/peugeot_508_gt_46.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508_gt/peugeot_508_gt_21.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508_gt/peugeot_508_gt_48.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery-full/p/peugeot/508_gt/peugeot_508_gt_25.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery-full/p/peugeot/508_gt/peugeot_508_gt_8.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery-full/p/peugeot/508_gt/peugeot_508_gt_18.jpg Standard Version http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508/peugeot_508_56.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508/peugeot_508_86.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508/peugeot_508_971.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508/peugeot_508_55.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508/peugeot_508_71.jpg GT Line http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508_gt_line/peugeot_508_gt_line.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508_gt_line/peugeot_508_gt_line_6.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508_gt_line/peugeot_508_gt_line_9.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508_gt_line/peugeot_508_gt_line_2.jpg http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/p/peugeot/508_gt_line/peugeot_508_gt_line_88.jpg Quick Facts: - Targeting VW Arteon and Audi A5 - Lenght of 4.75m, height of 1.4m, wheelbase of 2.79m - Boot space of 487L expandable to 1,537L - 1.6L PureTech petrol engine with 180ps & 225ps (GT) - 1.5L BlueHDi diesel engine with 130ps - 2.0L BlueHDi diesel with 160ps & 180ps - All except entry 1.5L diesel will be using EAT8 (8 speed auto)
  14. Opel Singapore has just launched the new Crossland X. Launch Price at SGD102,888. Probably replacing the Mokka X. http://www.opel.com.sg/vehicles/opel-range/cars/crossland-x/index.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw6ZLOBRALEiwAxzyCW1ILCXQTrvI_kHyJxhRfIt6y_wjbCpR6qwbymj0Xb-sgO2ZzG9zHMBoC438QAvD_BwE https://www.carzone.ie/reviews/new-car-reviews/Opel/Crossland-X/2017/548/ Farewell to Opel ’s family favourite, the Meriva, and hello to the car that replaces it for 2017, the Crossland X . The new Crossland X takes aim at popular cars like the Nissan Juke and Renault's Captur, and it blends downscaled SUV looks with impressive levels of interior space. It’s also the first Opel to be built under the German manufacturer’s merge with Peugeot PSA, so it is based on the same platform as the latest Peugeot 2008. We recently took the Crossland X for a week-long test drive on Irish roads to see if has the recipe for success in an increasingly competitive corner of the market. The Crossland X shares many styling similarities the popular Opel Mokka X SUV, although it isn’t as rugged from the outside. Features like the front grille and rear lights are recognisable from other cars in Opel ’s range, while its raised ride height and tall bumpers lend it an SUV stance. Choice of specification in Ireland consists of two models, SC and SE, while the base specification SC gets 16-inch alloy wheels and distinctive LED daytime running lights as standard. Our test car is a higher specification SE model, so it gains larger 17-inch alloy wheels and dark tinted windows. The Crossland X is more spacious inside than you would expect, with excellent head and leg room for front and rear seat passengers. Space in the rear is particularly impressive due to the flat floor, and boot space is respectable at 410 litres, trump rivals like the Nissan Juke. There is also an optional versatility pack which allows the rear seat bench to slide forwards and backwards and further increases boot space. The driving position is high which means it offers a commanding view of the road, and there’s enough support from the seats for comfort during longer drives. The quality of the plastics throughout the cabin is mostly good, but they are scratchy in certain areas such as beneath the steering wheel and lower doors. It’s nice to note that all Crossland X models have a user-friendly 7-inch colour touchscreen system in the centre of the dashboard as standard, incorporating Opel ’s Intellilink system, Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. Also included is Opel ’s OnStar with a Wi-Fi hotspot, roadside assistance call out and lots of other features too, so it's fair to say that the Crossland X is more connected and smartphone-friendly than many of its rivals. The Crossland X is available with either a 1.2-litre petrol engine available in two different states of tune (81hp or 110hp), or a larger 1.6-litre CDTi diesel engine in 99hp or 120hp variants. We drove the 120hp 1.6 CDTi diesel with a six-speed-manual gearbox and it offers an ideal mix of performance and economy. 0-100km/h is possible in under ten seconds and it cruises confidently at motorway speeds, while we covered over 600 kilometres of driving in the midlands and managed 5-litres per 100 kilometres of driving in fuel economy (56MPG). The Crossland X has an accommodating suspension setup which means it is comfortable out on the road, but it isn’t very agile through corners. Light steering helps during parking, but again, there is little feedback from the steering when cornering. This is unlikely to affect family buyers who will value comfort over driving dynamics. Despite its SUV looks, the Crossland X isn’t available with four-wheel-drive, but the front-wheel-drive setup offers sufficial amounts of grip. Family buyers will appreciate standard safety features such as lane departure warning, traffic sign recognition, rear parking sensors and hill start assist. Our test car has desirable optional extras such as a panoramic sunroof, front parking sensors and Opel ’s lighting pack, but the asking price is bumped up accordingly and it can get expensive quickly. The Crossland X is a worthy successor to the Opel Meriva MPV, bringing more style and desirability than its predecessor. Family buyers will appreciate the Crossland’s generous interior space, along with the strong serving of standard equipment. That said, it feels and looks very similar to the latest Opel Mokka X, so differentiating between the two models can be confusing, and it also isn’t as fun to drive as some of its more-established rivals, such as the Peugeot 2008. Taking all things into account, the Crossland X makes for a well-priced alternative to cars like the Nissan Juke with best-in-class space and practicality.
  15. Hi current peugeot owner, will like to know are there usually many issues with peugeot's cars? Checked out the facebook page and read many complaints. Thinking whether should i get the new 3008.
  16. Well apparently even BBK on Peugeot cannot jam brake hard enough to prevent kissing the other car. Anyway, some people just have too much money and time to spare to deal with accidents that could have been prevented if everyone just use their brain alittle to drive.
  17. 1) the outlander right side view is blocked by the vehicle stopped behind the yellowbox. He should have been slower to inch out. 2) the traffic light ahead is already red, no point going fast anyway. So the peugeot should have just crawl to a stop when approaching the yellow box.
  18. Peugeot not slow enough meh? Outlander driver obviously dreaming. Such a big white car and he continued to drive out.
  19. Peugeot should also practice defensive driving... You see car stopped behind yellow box on the left, you should be anticipating a vehicle might poke it's bonnet out and slow down during approach and be ready to stop.
  20. For all those who are ready to give a new lease of life to the automotive world, Peugeot is unveiling the new 2008 SUV. As an enthusiastic and fierce supporter of Peugeot's brand vision of an exciting future, it is the ultra modern interpretation of an instinctive and versatile driving experience. A genuine SUV in its dimensions, it clashes with a particularly powerful and distinctive style. Ultra-technological, it adopts the new generation of immersive Peugeot i-Cockpit® 3D, with equipment and driving aids designed by the best know-how Peugeot has to offer. Being multi-energy, it offers the freedom to choose between 3 types of efficient engines: electric, petrol and diesel all offering phenomenally stimulating sensations. The world is changing. New challenges call for new answers throughout the automotive industry. With its 208 years of history, the Peugeot brand is calmly pursuing its commitment in the era of the energy transition. Our exciting and reassuring vision of the future is confirmed once again by the new SUV Peugeot 2008. It shows that technology and pleasure are not incompatible and that a car has the power to amaze. It turns a trip into a journey and offers everyone the mobility they need. The new Peugeot 2008 emerges at the heart of the compact SUV segment, contributing to what is the success of the Peugeot range today: affirmation through design and differentiation through innovation and technology. EXALTING SUV Powerful and distinctive in style, the new 2008 Peugeot SUV is a sculptural and desirable object. It fulfils the ambition to turn over a new and remarkable page in the history of Peugeot SUVs and is fully in line with the current style of the range while displaying its own personality. The balanced lines and overall proportions are those of an SUV, with a recessed windshield that makes the bonnet more horizontal, creating a strong body. The car sits well on its wheels, perfectly shouldered, strong and reassuring. Statutory and with identity, the front incorporates a proud and straight grille (body colour on electric versions), a carved bonnet and LED daytime running lights that fade under the projector in order to resurface below. The faceted and bold profile immediately catches the eye, with different triangular lines. The result is a lively and incisive style, representing a real technical feat for parts pressing: never have flanks had as much volume! These lines end on the tailgate, for an undeniable coherence and overall homogeneity. The style is robust, and even more with the large wheels (690mm), which perfectly fill the arches. The 18" rims have added inserts with three advantages: easier customization, significant weight gain (4 kg across all wheels) and better aerodynamics. A clear upgrade in quality and elegance with the two-tone Black Diamond black headlining, black window strip and the silk-screened C-pillar on the GT Line and GT versions. Muscular with a high beltline, the rear end includes lights connected by a black strip with dual exhaust pipes on the PureTech 130 & 155. As expressive as always, the signature with 3 LED claws is once again a feature here. Be it day and night, you'll find it on the back on all versions and in the projectors of high-end versions. Depending on the destination, the headlights will use LED technology on all finishes. In addition to the usual offer, striking and distinctive exterior shades are available and add even more tone to the style: - Elixir Red, with a coloured varnish to enhance the depth and colour of the shade, - Vertigo Blue, three-layers for a super bright finish, - Fusion Orange, a new metallic colour exclusive for the new SUV Peugeot 2008. Down with monotony! Inside, the colours and materials are meticulously detailed, skilfully combining noble materials and original colours. - subtle, the doors panels decoration includes Orange (on Active) or Blue (on Allure) tampo-printing, - technical sophistication and freshness in the Allure version, with modern "Urbanoïd" light blue upholstery, - dynamic, the GT Line versions offer a chic atmosphere, enhanced by isolated Adamite, - noble and sought after, the GT/e-2008 GT versions combine Alcantara®, leather and technical mesh. Black onyx stitched Adamite on the GT versions, the Alcantara® has an exclusive Greval® grey stitched blue and green on the Peugeot e-2008 GT versions. This cosy interior is embellished on the GT Line and GT versions with bright decorations on the dashboard and the doors panels that have 8 colours that can be picked via the touch screen. EXTENDED EXPERIENCE The spaciousness of the rear seats (a new record for the new CMP platform) makes the new SUV Peugeot 2008 a particularly versatile SUV. Its length of 4.30m and its wheelbase of 2.60m also give it a comfortable boot volume until 434 L (VDA V210). The modularity is ensured by a two-position floor (depending on versions) which provides a virtually flat floor once the bench is folded. With a variety of new storage on board, you will be able to keep everything you need on a daily basis with you. In addition to the traditional door pockets and the glove box, there is ample storage space under the front centre armrest and more in front of the gear stick. Additionally, there is more discreet storage at the bottom of the central console. There you'll find the very convenient induction charging area and its lid, which in an open position can cleverly hold a smartphone. Passengers will also enjoy a passenger compartment full of sunlight thanks to the optional sunroof, offering a wide clear bay. Its opening to the outside preserves the spaciousness for people in the back. Even more technological: the new Peugeot i-Cockpit® 3D The Peugeot i-Cockpit® is still based on the same fundamentals and offers flawless ergonomics for awakening the senses: - a compact steering wheel, for better handling and better grip, - a large HD touch screen at your fingertips, - and now an innovative 3D heads-up receiver, A favourite of our customers and currently present in 5 million Peugeot vehicles around the world, it's a wholly new interpretation which currently equips the new SUV Peugeot 2008. Information is placed in the driver's line of sight. Depending on the version, the Peugeot i-Cockpit® 3D instrument cluster projects it like a hologram. The indications are dynamic and animated: they get closer to the eye depending on their degree of importance or urgency, thereby increasing reactivity by around half a second. Unveiled on the new Peugeot 208, the Peugeot i-Cockpit® 3D is a real innovation, a world first in the segment. It improves driving in every way: efficiency, readability, and safety are at an all-time high. The touch screen can be 10 inches diagonally depending on the version, and it is controlled via touch shortcuts placed next to Toggle Switches or with the new voice command. Accuracy and credibility abound since, in addition to sight, touch is also required when using foamed plastics on the dashboard as well as sophisticated and pleasant materials in many places, such as Alcantara® or Nappa® leather. The door panels and dashboard inserts have a "carbon" look, while the EAT8 gearbox control is 100% electric ("shift and park by wire"), allowing easy and intuitive operation. It is complemented by paddles on the wheel for the driver to take over quickly if needed. Modern, connected and technological Unprecedented and even scarce in this segment, the equipment and driving aids are taken from the upper segments and are at the highest level of Peugeot brand know-how. It's an impressive technological arsenal, including: - Drive Assist plus, which paves the way to semi-autonomous driving. It combines: * the lane departure avoidance system, linked to the Lane Positioning making it possible to choose your position in the lane, *the adaptive Cruise Control with Stop & Go function in EAT8 automatic gearbox, - Park Assist that automatically manages the steering when entering and leaving a parking spot, with only 60 cm difference between cars when parked, - the latest-generation automatic emergency braking, which also detects pedestrians and cyclists, day and night, from 5km/h to 140 km/h), - active warning of involuntary lane crossing (or the roadside), - driver warning alert, recommending a break if necessary, - automatic switching of high beam, to focus even more on the road, - further recognition of signs (one-way, stop) with recommendation for speed signs, - active blind spot monitoring, - the electric parking brake. As the co-pilots of everyday life, smartphones will also be in the new 2008. Its information will be integrated into the central screen thanks to MirrorScreen compatibility including MirrorLink™ connection protocols, Apple CarPlay™ and Android Auto™. In addition to the induction charging zone, up to 4 USB sockets are available depending on the version (2 in the front including one USB-C and 2 on the back). The routes will be optimized with TomTom® Traffic connected 3D navigation, which gives real-time traffic status and recalculates routes automatically. The driver will also be informed about risk areas, surrounding points of interest. The most demanding music lovers will be pleased ; the music lovers will be delighted. Developed in partnership with the French high-end specialist in high-fidelity sound FOCAL®, the premium Hi-Fi system of the new SUV Peugeot 2008 is the result of more than 3 years of work. Already present in the Hi-Fi versions of the Peugeot 3008, 5008 and 508, this premium equipment is now available on the new SUV Peugeot 2008. In addition to an optimal acoustic layout, the 10 loudspeakers use technologies patented FOCAL® usually reserved living room installations: 4 aluminum inverted dome tweeters, four 165mm Polyglass woofers, 1 Polyglass central speaker and a Power Flower™ triple coil subwoofer. They are paired with a 12-channel 515 W amplifier, providing a detailed, rich and dynamic music scene. EXCITING CHOICE Based on the new and efficient modular platform of latest generation CMP (Common Modular Platform), the new SUV Peugeot 2008 is a multi-energy vehicle. It offers the freedom to choose the type of motorization according to your needs and own uses: 100% electric, petrol or diesel. For a la carte driving, it has a driving modes selector depending on the version: "Eco", "Normal" and "Sport". To escape even further, the optional Grip Control will be connected with the hill assist descent control (HADC) to perfectly and safely control your vehicle and its trajectory in steep slopes. Efficiency was the cornerstone of the development, all engines receive controlled air intakes, directed air flow wheels or even a streamlined underbody, all for a controlled air flow, and therefore an optimised air penetration coefficient. The range is available in 4 levels of finish: Active, Allure, GT Line and GT, all available in 100% electric or thermical. The high-end GT Line and GT versions have distinctive stylistic attributes: - full LED projectors with 3-claw light signature, - diamond 18" aluminium wheels with inserts, - meticulously-detailed interior: black trim, Adamite colour stitching, mood lighting, dynamic seats, aluminium pedals. Efficient and responsible: the combustion engines meet the latest Euro 6 standards In line with the latest Euro 6 standards, the internal combustion engines feature the latest technological advances of the Peugeot brand and are all equipped with Stop & Start and a particle filter. For even more ease and driving comfort, some of these engines can be linked with the latest 8-speed automatic gearbox (EAT8). The petrol engines are structured around the 3 cylinder-engine, a 1.2L engine size and adherence to the Euro 6d standard: - PureTech 100 S&S BVM6, - PureTech 130 S&S BVM6 or EAT8, - PureTech 155 S&S EAT8 (only for GT). For Diesel, the offer is with the 4-cylinder engine with a 1.5L engine size (Euro 6d-temp standards at launch): - BlueHDi 100 S&S BVM6, - BlueHDi 130 S&S EAT8. Exciting Full Electric driving pleasure Because electric can be magical too, this first 100% electric SUV Peugeot makes it possible to reach a new world of sensations. The driver will enjoy a high level of panache, in total operating silence and no vibrations. This pleasure is accompanied by the freedom to travel in the city centre even in the Green Zones with restricted traffic. The engine with a power of 100 kW (136 hp) and a torque of 260 Nm available immediately ensure a daily ease in all situations. The 50kWh high capacity battery provides a range of up to 310 km according to the new WLTP standard. This battery is guaranteed for 8 years or 160,000 km for 70% of its charging capacity. The display of energy flows in the central display as well as in the Peugeot i-Cockpit® 3D receiver is ludic and make it easy and intuitive to understand how the traction chain works. Two intuitive modes of energy recovery when braking are available and accessible directly from the gear stick: - Drive ("D"), recovery is standard, for driving similar to a petrol or diesel vehicle - Brake ("B"), recovery allows deceleration directly from the accelerator pedal The batteries are optimally installed in the floor, ensuring that choosing an electric version won't affect the performance of the new SUV Peugeot 2008. This ensures the same room and boot volume as the internal combustion versions. An essential marker of the Peugeot brand, the dynamic behaviour of the new SUV Peugeot e-2008 has been the subject of careful attention and provides a touch of road and driving pleasure comparable to petrol and diesel versions. The drive axles have been adapted and the weight distribution is optimal. The charging time depends on the power available: -16h for full charge from a Legrand® Green Up™ plug, - between 5h15 and 8h for a complete charge with a WallBox (three phase 11 kW with optional charger or single phase 7.4 kW) - 30mn to recover 80% of battery with the 100 kW public terminals, the thermal regulation of the battery makes it possible to use terminals with this power. The programmable delayed charge is available from the navigation screen or from your smartphone with the MyPeugeot® application. This can also start charging at any time and allows you to check the charge level remotely. For the highest level of thermal comfort, specific equipment has been developed: - a 5 kW heating resistor and a 3kW climate compressor which are supplied by the traction battery, to provide heating and cooling in the passenger compartment, - a heat pump and automatic regulation of the passenger compartment temperature to guarantee a level of comfort equivalent to the internal combustion versions. The system is suitable for optimized energy consumption, - pleasant heated seats (depending on the version), - thermal pre-conditioning programmable from the touchscreen or remotely via the MyPeugeot® smartphone app. Offering an ideal temperature in the cockpit as of the rise on board, this comfort is not done to the detriment of autonomy: when the vehicle is connected, energy necessary comes directly from the terminal of refill. The new SUV Peugeot e-2008 does not have a specific silhouette but some captivating details that subtly underline its electrified personality: - a sparkling dichroic Lion, with reflections alternating between green and blue depending on the angle of view, - a specific "e" monogram on the front fenders and the tailgate, - an elegant, body-coloured front grille with beads, - exclusive seat upholstery in Alcantara© "Greval Grey" on e-2008 GT, - finally, the on-board experience is complemented by a display specific to the electric version in the 3D receiver as well as in the touch screen. And because electric isn't only about motorization, the Peugeot brand is offering a full practical and didactic ecosystem to calmly support customers in their daily travel and use. Three services will be on offer from launch: - Easy-Charge will facilitate access to different charging solutions tailored to the needs of users. At home or at the office, a panel of charging solutions (reinforced plugs, Wallbox, Smart-Wallbox,...) will be proposed. Peugeot will also accompany its customers in the installation thanks to a partnership with specialized companies. In parallel, an offer of public charging solutions is available via Free2Move Services. A step of load gives access to the broadest network of load with more than 110,000 terminals in Europe via the PlugSurfing partner. The preselection of the terminals is done according to the distance, the speed or the price of the refill. Guidance towards the selected terminal can be carried out starting from the application Free2Move Services or the connected navigation of the vehicle. - Easy-Move will ensure our customers' mobility. A tool for planning and organizing long trips via Free2Move Services will offer the best journeys taking into account the autonomy and the location of the charging terminals on the way. For clear and serene driving, the route will be displayed directly on the touch screen of the vehicle. An extended mobility offer is included in the vehicle rent and allows you to rent an internal combustion vehicle according to your needs. Finally, a tool in the MyPeugeot application provides eco-driving tips to optimize the autonomy of your new SUV Peugeot e-2008, - Serenity to support our customers throughout their journey with the new SUV Peugeot e-2008. New simulators and digital routes will help you to find out more about electric on the Peugeot brand websites, service contracts and dedicated roadside assistance may include financing. A certificate guaranteeing the level of capacity of the vehicle's battery will facilitate resale.
  21. Hey guys, been a long time since I've been active here, but you know what? I've been brewing a car taxation plan in the back of my mind for months, just never sat down to write it out. We all know the legendary COE and many of us by now have already said it needs a do-over, even the polimakers are starting to say something about giving it a do-over. But always without reconsidering what classifying cars should be. Since I'm never gonna get into the "job" of public service, here's my comprehensive... uh... suggestion? You wanna tl;dr? Fine, I'll leave one at the end. Total COE Restructure Let's start with the headliner, which is always our iconic certificates (we know our car don't last forever, because of COE). Since its inception, the COE has, for consumers, been fundamentally separated into categories A and B, which for now I will focus on. As a reminder; Category A represents passenger vehicles up to 1,600cc or 130hp (97kW), and Category B is just... anything over that, making the assumption that B category vehicles are inherently larger or more luxurious vehicles. Now, the main proclaimed goal of COE is managing the vehicle population, and ostensibly managing road congestion by limiting the volume of cars. With that stated intent in mind, who agrees that a car's power output and displacement has any real bearing on its ability to create congestion? Would ten buses cause more congestion than ten Golf Rs in the same stretch of road? Would ten Cat B Golf Rs cause more congestion than ten Cat A Golf (....what's it called now? 90TSI? Scrap that too) Ten buses would definitely block more road than ten Golfs, EA888 or not, but of course the counterpoint is that ten buses holds many times more people than ten Golfs, or even the equivalent number of Golfs in terms of length. Redefining the Categories... on Size. So my suggestion is, actually, quite simple - let's redefine COE categories based on the physical size of vehicles. This is easily accessible information, I cannot think of any car that you cannot get dimension information for, and if you really can't, there's nothing stopping the homologation department from breaking out a tape measure. I don't think I want to arbitrarily define numbers I think are suitable for separating Category A and B at the moment, but... If we consider trends, I'd say a comfortable position for Category A is 4,700mm long and below, as most "compact" sedans today remain in the ~4,650mm long range, and plenty of small hatchbacks are well low that. (Isn't it ridiculous that a 2020 G20 3-series now is longer than the 1994 Mazda Capella/626?) Anyway, keeping things simple would be using length, because that is usually what really determines how much space a car needs on a road. I consider 4.65m a median of sorts, 4.7~5m the range locals traditionally consider a large family car, and that anything over 5m, nobody is going to call that small. Cars under 4.4m are typically the 'small' ones today, you'd be hard pressed to still find something under 4m. Again, keeping it simple, if we were to retain a binary classification, Category A could be below 4.7m and Category B anything longer than that. Alternatively, we can expand it a little to include overall footprint, by taking length x width of the car, but given that lanes are lanes and people aren't supposed to be driving across two lanes, it occurred to me while writing this that that's really a little unnecessary, plus it makes it a tad harder to account for capacities. Long story short though, is let's just redefine COE categories based on size/length of a car, not its engine power/displacement, which no longer has any real direct bearing on its state of luxury, economy, efficiency, or, most importantly, physical size. COE Incentive for Family Vehicles With Singapore's infamously small land area, there's a consistent push for car sharing, reducing the number of individual vehicles, increasing the person per vehicle, and so on, but there's also a consistent and very unhappy demographic of families that for practical purposes need a vehicle on demand for themselves to manage their children. Yes, you can bring your kids on a bus, but with a stroller and all the like, managing a potentially rambunctious or easily upset child whilst carrying a baby or other nightmare scenarios, you can imagine all of that, and there are plenty of little articles about why families scrounge everything they can to afford a car even with the wide availability of ride hailing and our celebrated public transport. (Simply don't Go aside) By their nature, a sportscar, two seaters especially, have less capacity for transporting and are traditionally the domain of luxury, and rarely sit in the lower price classes. But at the same time, a tiny convertible like a Daihatsu Copen may be really just a recreational vehicle for two, but it takes up virtually no road at all compared to a Toyota Fortuner. With this in mind, I'd propose that any vehicle with less than five seats incur a COE multiplier - it should cost more to own a vehicle of this type, but it should still be in accordance with its size. As such, a 7-seater, which has the capacity to hold more people, and is often a choice made to accommodate a growing family, should be incentivized - it should have a COE reduction. Of course, it's always going to be true that cars spend a lot of time with less than their entire capacity filled, but there's really not a whole lot we can do to mitigate that. But the fact is that placing a Polo GTI in the same taxation category as a Nissan X-Trail, or a bus-lane demanding Aventador, is antithetical to the system's intent. Many of the times a family that really could do with a vehicle are the ones who are suffering the most from sky high COEs, whereas we know by now those who can afford their fifth Porsche don't really care too much about an extra $20k. Short version: COE classification based on size of the car COE Penalty for impractical sports vehicles with less usable seats COE benefit for practical family vehicles with more usable seats But hold on, why again do we need to fuss so much? The COE system has been unfairly cruel to the folks who can arguably need vehicles the most, and at real worst an annoyance to rental/fleet companies and affluent individuals with the means to own multiple cars. There needs to be a real restructuring to allow more cars to be used by these young families who struggle in many ways because they see cars as a necessity even with all their 'alternatives', while taking more from those who are ordering their third Cayman. Size is the thing that implicates congestion potential the most, and instead encouraging a population of many small cars, two Jazzes can hold five people (even if in relative discomfort) each compared to four in a standard S-class, while taking up only marginally more effective space on the road. A Prius makes barely over 130hp and gets shoved into Cat B, but who's gonna say a Prius is appreciably more luxury than a Corolla Altis? Power and displacement has long been detached from a car's class, but physically larger cars often really do be more inefficient and luxurious - compare, say, again, an Audi A1 to an Audi A6. You can have both with the 1.4TFSI engine, but the A4 is noticeably better built on the inside. Even accounting for the tune increase, the Cat B A4 1.4 is much less efficient because it weighs more. Then you have the obviously ridiculous Mercedes Benz MFA180 spec, (A180, B180, CLA180, etc.), which previously came with the M270 "RED" engine, RED standing for reduced - that brought the 1.6L engine from MFA200 specs of around 155hp to the Category A 130hp to allow the premium brand to sell Category A vehicles here. The thing that's widely ignored is that the Cat A "RED" engine is not only less powerful, but less efficient, both in the claimed numbers and in real use. A more recent example is the 2023 Honda Civic Turbo's local exclusive Cat A 129hp tune, a substantial reduction from the engine's normal 180hp variant, without being appreciably more efficient, and even before that KM is one of just 8 territories where the ancient 1.6L engine was recycled one more time for the 2017 Civic tenth gen. Many hybrids produce over 130hp but are more efficient, but automatically get discouraged by Cat B. I'll reiterate this point, but to summarise this section; The current COE structure is outdated, nonsensical even at its inception and does not keep cars affordable for lower income families who need them to better manage their children in their busy lives, an increasingly vocal demographic that we weigh all our hopes on. Managing one kid and one stroller on Bus MRT Walk is tough enough, but our population won't grow when it's so hard to care for your children. Plus, the absurd choice of metrics of power output and displacement to classify vehicles discourages innovation in powerplants that we seriously need for reducing the gasoline footprint, resulting in a larger population of cars with outdated engines. The World's Most Expensive Cars... with the lowest specifications We already know we have the most expensive cars in the world, but have you noticed we have the lowest specced cars in the world too? Why? ARF. The ARF taxation is why you pay for your car's value, at minimum, twice over - a car's ARF, before "incentives", is 100% of a vehicle's OMV, and gets worse from there. As such, higher spec vehicles incurring higher OMV incur higher ARF. This of course makes sense from the standpoint of taxing luxury, but it also means that dealers, with their immense margins, are not willing to bring in vehicles that are well equipped. Consider Citroën under C&C, which has for whatever reason decided that the storied French nameplate should be a lower cost brand. Their latest lineups have been exclusively brought in with pretty barebone specifications, lacking even electric seat options. "Premium" Automobiles has been perhaps the most depressing offender to me personally, with their hypocritical name - their cars routinely lack any manner of technology that befits Audi's slogan, just a few of the most obviously visible ones for "wow" factor - Virtual Cockpit for example was hyped early on. Due to the expensive taxation via ARF, batch homologation and lack of flexibility in bringing in cars of individually customized equipment levels, the dealers are largely discouraged from importing vehicles with full equipment lists - as someone who personally wants a car with all the trimmings, this has been a long running frustration of mine. Audi's presense active safety/assistance suite is available on...... I don't know, which? Only the A8? The Q8 doesn't even have the sunglasses compartment and lined interior visors, for crying out loud. You can get all of those on... a Skoda Octavia. For far less. Why do I care so much about these features? Because many of these are safety technologies that are being exorcised from premium cars, safety technologies I was one of the earliest to adopt. I've a 2015 model year vehicle featuring adaptive cruise, blind spot warnings and lane keeping assist, four years before these features have reached Singapore's mainstream. And you still struggle to get these as standard on an Audi, a BMW, or a Mercedes. Even though they're widely available from mainstream brands now (Peugeot, Toyota SafetySense, Honda Sensing, Subaru Eyesight, Mazda has it too, so on), the premium marques don't offer adaptive cruise or their full safety suites, at best a cut down variant. PML BMWs have begun to have Driving Assistant across all cars, but this is limited to camera based front active city braking, blind spot warning and lane keeping, you are still denied RADAR based active cruise. And the PA imported Audi S3 in 2019 did not come with a reverse camera. I want an upgrade, not a downgrade. There needs to be more emphasis on safety technologies and not "wow" technologies, and dealers need to start offering smaller vehicles with premium equipment lists. What's a solution? Obviously this problem also lies with dealers and consumer mindsets, the desires always to cut corners on our already expensive cars, and I think it's fine that we should have to pay more for options like Virtual Cockpit, or Alcantara trim. But I think we need to stop compromising on safety technology. This is to me, non-negotiable at this point. In other countries across the world, many marques have begun offering these features as standard. Hold on, you might say, why does it matter so much? I don't need this stuff, I drive fine. So in the eight years I've been driving my beloved Mondeo, I've used Adaptive Cruise nearly every journey... But I've had the emergency brake intervention trigger only twice. I was sleepy. You will never be driving in 100% perfect condition every day of your life. We already say we've got some of the worst drivers, the most kiasu, the most impolite, and my Mondeo isn't shy about warning me that I'm less than two seconds of following distance to the car in front (I have sensitivity on high for pedestrian detection), but what's to say we can't reduce the number of accidents with these features? Side anecdote, I'm still baffled by how seven cars can have a chain collision in the middle of the highway, an empty highway during Circuit Breaker, in broad, clear daylight. What kind of absurd scenario causes that? Yes, it'll make the cars more expensive, as these aren't without a cost, but can you imagine how much less we'd lose in time and money if we had virtually zero accidents across our roads? Less congestion, less time wasted, less fuel burnt in traffic jams, no need to waste TP resources dispatching to manage the scene, less money spent on EMAS recovery. Less money lost on people idling in a jam. So I propose that there be a discount incentive for safety technology equipment on cars. Say, a $500 incentive for forward collision detection. $500 off for Blind Spot warning. $250 off for adaptive headlights. $250 off for seatbelt airbags (my Mondeo didn't come with them, sadly) Something like that. I also think, really, we should consider making it possible to fine someone extra if they were involved in an accident while driving with that feature disabled (if equipped, obviously), or at least if I were an insurance officer I would probably increase the person's excess for that incident. The legislation has long been discouraging advanced technologies and our cars have been routinely some of the worst equipped in the world, while the COE system somehow results in some of the most inefficient powerplants reaching us. You might have noticed I didn't specify a discount on ARF, which has long been the typical means of providing incentives, notably through the EV early adopters incentive and the CEVS rebate. That's because anyone who knows ARF knows that ARF is what determines your PARF rebate, more commonly known as scrap value. The PARF rebate depreciates linearly from 100% ARF to 50% over the ten years of the car's original COE, which means that every $1,000 discount on ARF is really a $500 loss to your PARF rebate. Which is why cars, particularly EVs, that have high CEVS rebates, have spectacularly poor depreciation rates. (See, for example, SGCM's BMW iX3 vs X3 faceoff) Incentives need to be serious, and to be really serious about being an incentive they need to not take from the consumer's back pocket. I also suggest we start incentivizing real hybrids, and plug-in hybrids. In a meaningful way. Tons of dealers have started offering mild hybrids, which just include a small booster battery that helps start from a standstill. These do not confer any real efficiency benefit overall. Plug-in Hybrids are expensive now, but deserve to have more penetration. I asked many a dealer, why are you not offering PHEVs? The answer? Nobody wants them. My response; nobody I've asked knows they exist. Dear dealers, you make the markets, not the consumers, in Singapore. Do us better. I suddenly got really sleepy at this point, so I'll maybe elaborate in another post. All the essential info's above. But what else do I think I want to throw in? The diesel duty raise. That was dumb - commercial vehicles are the most frequent user of diesel, and increasing their cost to run has undoubtedly lead to delivery and freight costs rising and reaching the consumer. Rental companies propping up COEs with their indifference to high COE prices? Supposedly doesn't happen, but I doubt that. Almost definitely has to be happening, and then those cheap grade low spec cars get dumped on the preowned market exacerbating the problems I described. Not to mention that expensive COEs lead to more use of rental vehicles, which the rental companies can price up to recover their costs...? Makes for a self-sustaining cycle. Anyway, as promised, tl;dr; COE current system of displacement/power is dumb (and was dumb in 1990), change classification system to be based on length. Discount COE for more than 5 seats, penalty for less than 5 seats Revise ARF/add incentives for safety technology to encourage safer cars Revise incentives to encourage more efficient gasoline cars, not just EVs, because EVs are still not ready
  22. High five for Citroen's new medium SUVhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/road-tests/109909709/high-five-for-citroens-new-medium-suv Citroen has always been more keen on quirky people movers than high-riding SUVs. It's a very Continental thing. Except that it's becoming less of thing as time goes on, which is why the French brand has finally created something that competes in New Zealand's most popular single new-vehicle segment: medium SUVs. So say "salut/gidday" to the new C5 Aircross, a European Car of the Year nominee that's heading here in September. Perhaps because it's come so late to the SUV party, Citroen reckons the C5 Aircross answers buyer concerns about the relative lack of comfort and practicality in the latest fashion-led soft-roaders. It's based on the same front-drive platform as the Peugeot 3008, but it's 55mm longer in the wheelbase (and stretched by the same amount overall). The idea is that the C5 Aircross is more spacious on the inside than your average medium SUV, more comfortable with Citroen's new-generation Advanced Comfort Seats (15mm surface foam, mattress-like filling and more memory foam underneath) and especially more practical. The rear seats are split 40/20/40, all three sections slide individually and the backrests can be adjusted for rake, meaning luggage capacity ranges from a generous 580 litres to a very impressive 720 while maintaining five chairs. Not exactly luxurious for rear occupants in the latter position, but hey - you can do it. It's all very people-mover-like. You can see what they've done there. There's just one high-specification model for NZ, powered by a version of Peugeot-Citroen's familiar 1.6-litre turbo-petrol with 132kW/250Nm. That's more grunt than you get in the top-line 3008 petrol models (121kW/240Nm) and it's matched to an eight-speed automatic gearbox. The comfort ethos continues in the suspension with Citroen's Progressive Hydraulic Cushion (PHC) dampers, a unique system originally developed for the brand's rally cars that has extra baby dampers at the top and bottom of the main units to smooth out the up-and-down movements, while maintaining good control in the mid-range. So at a projected price just under $50k, you're potentially getting a larger, more powerful and better equipped SUV (stuff like adaptive cruise will likely be standard on the Kiwi C5 Aircross) for a little less money than the equivalent 3008. It's expected to account for at least of half of Citroen's Kiwi volume when it comes on stream in September, although with no price-leading model and the fact that it's a new thing for a niche brand, it'll still be a fairly small concern. The local distributor reckons the 3008 will still outsell the C5 Aircross three-to-one. At Citroen's international media launch in Morocco. Marrakech in fact, from the chaos of the city where you're constantly dodging battered Peugeot 504 utes, out into wide open spaces and around the foothills of the Atlas Mountains. An ambitious drive-location and obviously one chosen to showcase the squishy underpinnings and long cruising legs of the C5 Aircross. ​The so-called "180" (that's horsepower) version of this engine is a gem: perky and punchy, even if it gets a little raucous up top. The eight-speed transmission is seamless and smooth at a cruise, although it can get a bit fidgety when you ask the big questions with the throttle. The roads in Morocco are famously bad in places: narrow, ruts and plenty of big potholes. A tough test then. As with the PHC-equipped C4 Cactus we tested in NZ late last year, we found the C5 Aircross chassis had a tendency to occasionally crash into broken tarmac at urban speeds, but cruised serenely on the open road, combining the right degree of classic Citroen "waft" with good body control. It's a ride-handling combination that suits the medium-SUV C5 Aircross much better than the city-oriented C4 Cactus. And don't mistake comfort-oriented dynamics for a sluggish feel: the C5 Aircross is literally light on its feet, with a kerb weight of just 1430kg. We ventured off-tarmac a little, although take note that as with the sister 3008, the C5 Aircross is front-drive only. Kiwi models will likely ride on 19-inch wheels, but if you're willing to step down to 18s you can have Grip Control as an option - a drive-mode selector that adjusts traction control and transmission calibration for low traction surfaces. What really stands out? Character: a more fluid low-speed ride would be welcome, but overall the Citroen's deliberately non-sporty demeanour and strong visual character are hugely refreshing. The interior ambience is pretty chill as well - lounge-like in its styling and high in equipment. The controls are pleasingly simple but there's hi-tech on board, including a neat virtual instrument panel. The choice of materials is more in the cheap-and-cheerful mould, though: the textures are interesting but a lot of the plastic is pretty hard. It's nothing like as premium as the touchy feely environment of a 3008. Why would I buy it? Because it proves that medium-sized SUVs don't have to be generic boxes. Because it really does blend SUV style with a touch of people-mover practicality. Or because Citroen is doing some pretty cool stuff these days that's full of character without being self-consciously quirky, and you want in.
  23. Thats the old peugeot the newer peugeot with 8 speed aisin gearbox and 1.2L pure tech engine much more reliable than prev 6speed gearbox and 1.6thp engine. Somemore i notice my 5008 operate at lower temperature. As in when engine running after long drive u don’t feel hot standing beside the car. i watched a video claimed that newer peugeot designed for tropical country and engine operate at lower temp reducing chance of parts breaking down i don’t know whether the car can last 10 years but so far in peugeot group first 5 yrs owners doesnt face much issue esp the 1.2L engine
  24. Another odd design luxurious sedan in the making? At a quick glance, it shout Peugeot, to me. The next-generation BMW 7 Series has been caught once more, hinting at a completely redesigned exterior concealed under many layers of camouflage. Those simple headlights are likely provisional as they seem to have a basic look, but the original 8 Series-esque placement and shape is likely the final one. Tiny rivets on many parts of the body indicate the 7 Series prototype has more than just one layer of disguise, so it's best not to jump to any conclusions about the car's exterior appearance. As for the interior, the first thing you will notice are those side-by-side screens akin to the setup you'll find in the iX SUV and i4 Gran Coupe. In those two fully electric vehicles, the instrument cluster measures 12.3 inches and is accompanied by a larger 14.9-inch touchscreen infotainment running on iDrive 8. Much like in the EVs, the screens are housed within a massive piece of curved glass slightly tilted towards the driver. It’s going to be a long wait before the next 7 Series will hit the streets as production reportedly won't start until July next year.
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