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Bhc chicken in Marina Square. Best fried chicken in Singapore I think. Birinkle wings and hot retro boneless 

On 3/30/2024 at 5:50 PM, Sosaria said:

I mean the people who produce the video, maybe some higher up decided it must be edited out even after it was already published.

But isn’t that a stupid decision considering it was already published??

The edited out clip posted by someone else in the other thread. 

On 3/30/2024 at 10:08 AM, D3badge said:

Guys, please give chance ! ☺️

 

Wow u actually found the cut clip…

if it is self censorship, why is cna so timid?

I really wonder what is the culture in cna like. Independent media is actually pretty important, I feel, as a country. Trust in the media is also valuable and cna is just stupid to do things like this which erodes trust. 

On 3/30/2024 at 9:48 AM, mersaylee said:

Mistake made...learned...dont repeat...tada...should had censored the first time round...😁

Ya lor… want to censor just do it the first time round. Not obvious at all…. 
 

but it really does not make sense to censor as the original clip wasn’t that bad… I thought minister handled it very well… he did not look pissed or anything when the kid brought it up. 

On 3/29/2024 at 4:40 PM, Invigorated said:

I have watched the video and also read the cna article on it. My point remains the same. 

I do find it hard to understand you. 

First, u have mentioned that u take offence that your girls RGS math paper requires her to rigidly present her work and implied that it's 'ridiculous' they didn't exercise more flexibility.. so u want flexibility..

Now when the CM acknowledged that they exercise more flexibility in awarding marks.. u come up with..

"I have no beef about the push for less emphasis on keywords but honestly, I don’t think it’s possible in a standardised exam." That they should stick to keywords..

Huh?!?! If u support flexibility, shouldn't you be praising the CM for doing so instead of name-calling him?

This is like what theoldjaffa said, some parents really think they know everything and want everything.. okay I get it, you only want things when it benefits you. 

benefits me??? in what way this benefits me??? That is the part I never understand in online forums.

When I argue for more benefits for having babies, people think I am planning to start a soccer team... when our production line is shut many years ago. Some people never stick to the things being discussed and always assume things about the other parties. 

When I bring up points on both sides, people get confused but in every argument/issue there is ALWAYS both sides and you will do well to consider both. I see the reason behind keywords in a nationwide standardised exams, but I don't see a good enough reason for penalising students in the "top" secondary school for taking shortcuts in presentations the regular school maths tests. If the answer is wrong without working in a math exam, give the student zero. If he/she can give the answer with 2 lines of working, why penalise the kid?

... unless you think I am sore about those marks my girl lost in presentation in Sec 1??? I did not even scold her. I told her well done after I saw her paper and saw she got almost all the answers correct but she got like 75%. I don't really care about the 75%.

 Last year, I scolded her for sec 3 math paper because I saw she couldn't do the first question and then it affected the rest of the paper. quite a few of the answers were wrong... 

I watched this video yesterday... It is supposed to be a video where kids can have a candid conversation with Minister chan. At the end, Kaylea mentioned she has seen minister before in the cotton sheep video. Minister said it was ok to make mistake as long as one don't repeat it.

This morning, I found the clip reuploaded with the section removed..... Why?

1) is it because of self censorship by CNA? Is there a need for it? was the minister embarrassed about his mistake? Did CNA consider how Kaylea might feel when she realised CNA posted her commented and then cut it away?

I feel this looks very bad either on CNA or minister. The original clip really wasn't very bad, in fact I thought it is worse that they censored it. 

I hope our media has enough freedom to post comments about cotton sheep... honestly it wasn't really that big a deal. The censorship (self?) is far worse....

On 3/29/2024 at 2:47 PM, Invigorated said:

Though not many of us would really appreciate your attempt to humble brag here, but an involved parent would usually know that their girls go to rgs and boys to ri. 

I'm unsure why you may have gotten so heated up and personal with the chief marker. It is to the benefit of our students that aside from keywords, the markers also look at answers more holistically. Of course, teachers will emphasise keywords as it's the most direct way of getting the marks and avoids ambiguity. The chief setter is saying that even in the presence of ambiguity, the student may be able to get the marks if the responses still show a clear understanding of the concept. 

There are baby steps taken to change the education system now, such as the removal of the normal, normal tech and express stream. Removal of o levels for IP students which happened some time back. Removal of mid year exams for many levels.. and so on.. The system is making changes gradually to prevent shocks to students and parents and tho it's far from perfect, the changes will still benefit students more in the new one that the older ones we were all accustomed to. 

It's always easy to criticise but to be able to implement and execute seamlessly is a different skill altogether imho.

Did you watch the video? I have no beef about the push for less emphasis on keywords but honestly, I don’t think it’s possible in a standardised exam. My main beef is that he makes it sound like everything is fine, u write in your own words you will get marks, the cause is because of misunderstanding from tuition, external classes teachers.
i don’t think so… the primary schools themselves are focusing on keywords, at least it was 3 years ago when I “took” psle science. My girl primary school themselves are drilling those keywords which is a direct contradiction of what this guy is saying on tv. 
 

On 3/29/2024 at 3:41 PM, Ender said:

Same here, Math and Science home tutored by me. Science is till her P6 after some session MU with her science teacher, that I think I myself memorise all the important keywords.  English and Chinese leave to the enrichment classes. 

 

I thought my home tutor days are over,, my girls received and 1st term sec3 results. Chem and not doing well.  I think I need to start googling on chemistry.. But it's a topic I myself am not good.  Why no PE exams, I can teach them how to apply 80/20  exercises, how different intensity utilize different energy system.

Sec 3 stuff is no joke…. My daughter did badly in sec three last year but I can’t tutor her anymore. She has to pull herself up. Her sec4 1st term results is much better and hopefully it continues…. 

On 3/28/2024 at 10:32 PM, Theoldjaffa said:

I am personally close to a teacher in a primary school and I have many friends who have been teaching for more than 30 years.
 

Even in parents group chats..my juniors show them to me sometimes.. from the way I see their msgs.. yeah “know-it-all” parents are aplenty.

These parents think they are always right. The school is fked up. The teachers are lousy. Never inward looking, always blaming others and the system.

I got to know another today here, and it only serves as a lesson for my grandson to not become someone like that when he becomes a parent.

Honestly u are not reading what I am writing…. I did not blamed the school for emphasizing keywords. I drilled my daughter in science keywords for 2 months, because I see the value of keywords in a standardised exam where u have hundreds of markers who will probably be following some sort of marking scheme… I think that chief marker is full of **** , just doing pr on tv without consideration for what is happening in schools. 

nevermind, it’s getting nowhere …

On 3/28/2024 at 10:53 PM, Throttle2 said:

I know this very well also becos several years ago, my girl came home and i checked her science papers.  She answered the question perfectly in simple but good English without using the “keywords” showing a clearcut understanding of the theory and yet was marked with a cross.  
i was going to march to school the next day to create havoc in the Principal’s office, but my wife stopped me.  

Ridiculous way of education.  No wonder we remain a nation of employees bound to be “ruled” still by foreigners.  

 

Exactly. I am glad someone else had the same experience else people would think it is just my daughter school. I did not think of going down as I thought the school had my girls interest in that psle marking scheme also follow keywords. I just “fixed” the problem and followed the system although I disagreed with it. 
 

That is why I feel the chief marker is just “wayanging” , saying nice words on tv that is totally different from what is happening in schools. 
 

When she got into RI, her math paper got even more ridiculous. I think 80% of the marks she lost were for questions she got totally right but “wrong” presentation… my time method marks were given because your answer were wrong, and teachers don’t want to give zero. You were almost always guaranteed full marks of the answer was right…

Btw, I know this very well because three years ago my daughter pri6 prelim science mark was 70/100… psle was 2 months away and I had to learn primary school science and tuition her. Her problem was she phrase everything her own way, no keywords. I reviewed her school marking schemes in depth. Primary science is highly structured with fixed words u need to use. 

She got A* in the end for science so I know keywords work. 

On 3/28/2024 at 8:59 PM, Theoldjaffa said:

I think you need to calm down, take a deep breath, and watch the video again.

The CM said: “Marking schemes don’t focus on keywords. Marking schemes focus a lot more on conceptual understanding”.

That means, even if the student doesn’t provide the keyword, it is ok. As long as the student demonstrates the understanding, marks are still given.

This is actually beneficial to the students as they are not penalized for not knowing, or stating the keywords.

He did not mention that keywords are NOT accepted in the marking scheme.

He is a school principal who had undergone rigorous criteria, training and experience to get to his position today.

I don’t think it’s proper etiquette for you to write off “this guy” as a load of <whatever you mean> just because you misconstrued the meaning of his words in your anger.

 

Err.. I understand perfectly well that he is saying. U need to understand what I am saying…. Since when did I say keywords are not accepted???? I said no keywords no points, ie keywords are essential for marks to be given and are heavily emphasized in school. 

I am saying the school marking schemes focus on keywords. No one focus on conceptual understanding, maybe his neighbourhood school does what he says but I wonder how well his students fair in science psle if they don’t focus on key words…

I don’t think who he is matters at all as to whether what he is saying is *** . 

On 3/28/2024 at 6:38 PM, Sosaria said:

Keywords or in other words, technical terminology, is still important in a proper answer. Otherwise it can be hard for the markers to determine whether the student really grasped the concept or has a full understanding. Sure, they can use discretion or give benefit of doubt but this may affect marking consistency and uniformity among markers.

Teachers still emphasize keywords to inculcate good exam-answering practices right from the start. And also as insurance during high stakes exam like psle. In case there's a ngeow marker at least student can still be assured of getting good score with the proper keywords. More so if next time they use computer or AI-driven marking.

exactly. This is what teachers in my daughters' are emphasizing. In school exams, no keywords no points. i am surprised this guy say completely opposite. Most schools are the same right?

what planet is this guy living in??? The teachers my daughter's primary school EMPHASIZE keywords so much.... PSLE science today is just keywords. The marking scheme itself is keywords based... alternative answers... err are you going to risk it ??? 

PSLE can "show our moral character" ???? This guy really come across as full of ****

On 3/20/2024 at 4:36 PM, mersaylee said:

With more adoption of Jensen Huang's super Blackwell chips and all...yes, more jobs to be created but a hell lot more to be lost as collaterals...😂

He's holding back and sell in parts instead of a complete solution to monopolise becos of kawang kawang with many partners and competitors...likely it may cum a day when he's no longer at the helm or someone takes over his coy...no more competitors...just sole monopoly...sekali that someone can even run the coy from the oval office...😅

How to buy his coy shares huh? 😁

You think Nvidia got no competitors? All other chip companies are working towards getting a share …..

On 3/20/2024 at 4:00 PM, Volvobrick said:

Yeah that my thinking as well. Just to tarnish his reputation.

Really? For yourself, did the inquiry tarnish or improved Pritam reputation???

honestly I don’t know much about Pritam but after rajeesh case, my impression of him has improved a lot. Same for the town council case. Soooo many hours and dollars spent to prove wp people are good?? The more pap dig into wp and fail to get anything solid, the better wp looks. Pap needs to wait and get something real….

I think the old generation as in above 60 is 1/3 of total voters?  If u use 65 as cutoff I think it is even less. Honestly I think this will make pap lose more votes… the older blur generation like my mum votes pap every election or opposition if they are pissed off with pap. They won’t change votes based on this court case. 
 

making Pritam into martyr will cost votes for pap, for sure.

On 3/19/2024 at 6:36 PM, Sosaria said:

Risky to keep using the same tactic time and again.

It works with our parents' generation who are mainly only tuned to gahmen media, but can backfire with today's more educated and discerning electorate.

Exactly, I thought this inquiry into Rajeesh incident just made Edwin looked really bad and stupid and made Pritam looked good…

pap is just stupid to pursue this further when they never had anything solid on Pritam…. All it will do is make Pritam look good or a Martyr. Both bad for pap 

On 3/20/2024 at 8:48 AM, Fcw75 said:

You are overestimating Sinkies. 🤣

I am pretty sure opp will do better than the last election this time round. 

Last time, many years ago, acs boy got in a fight, called his father Blangah workers to help out… real life story. 

On 2/27/2024 at 5:08 PM, Jman888 said:

those super rich are mostly migrants that dun have any affiliation to any local universities. 

I still donate every year for more than 10 years to the uni i went to in Australia 30+ yrs ago.

I thought we have quite a few super rich locals like uob OCBC families?

We have a lot of super rich people in Singapore…. How are they spending their money?

On 2/21/2024 at 7:54 PM, Volvobrick said:

You 150kg body builder? How to shake till drink spill? 

Exactly or his drink must be filled to the brim or something wrong with his cup holder or my chair. But I never saw the drink just the guy swearing behind me. Later I ask his wife what happened then I know about the drink…

funny thing is it seems it happened twice that is why he was so pissed. 
 

I have seen people in front complaining people kicking their chair which is understandable but I have never seen people behind complaining… first time ever.