happy_man

32 minutes ago, yishunite said:

Now is best time to expand. Russian army so stretch even whether can capture a tiny tip of Ukraine in doubt... how to invade NATO country

Biden wants his NATO friends to prepare for WW3 in Europe. That's why The Austrian PM went to Moscow to meet Putin to discuss the time  for real war beyond Ukraine. Sinking just 1 Russian warship is nothing compares what will come next. 😜

Spring has finally arrive. Warmer and dry season is here as Pro-Russian units slowly advance across the rest of Mariupol.

7 hours ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

Maybe Russian Propaganda

The Z-team in Mariupol town area. Took sometime as they cleared out snipers and remaining AZOV stragglers hidden in buildings and undergrounds.

Once fully in control, the port city will be the final key to linku between Donbass and Crimea region.

2 hours ago, Singa said:

have fun, Russia.Pentagon asks top 8 U.S. weapons makers to meet on Ukraine:

https://www.reuters.com/world/pentagon-asks-top-8-us-arms-makers-meet-ukraine-sources-2022-04-12/

....and Pentagon didn't even bother to ask Zelensky for permission to turn his country into another live weapon demo ground. 😜

32 minutes ago, Kb27 said:

Russia plan to self attack and then blame on Ukraine to get sympathy and support for its "special military operation"

Putin has done it before bombing Russian apartment and blame Chechnya. So everyone can see his dirty tricks again now.

 

Again - have you fact check this "news" from NEXTA which is run by an exile activist from Belarus based in Poland?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-belarus-election-poland-nexta-idUSKBN25O257

2 hours ago, Ct3833 said:

stay focused, this thread is about Putin starts “military operation” on Ukraine. 

Actually I am - you mentioned about "just go to youtube and randomly find..." , which I did.

And since we are on the subject of War Crimes...I found one good e.g. taken by a US Apache attacking journalists in Iraq war. 

One couldn't get any more FOCUSED than that FACT from Iraq war, which is just the tip of the iceberg.

39 minutes ago, yishunite said:

https://www.newsguardtech.com/special-reports/russian-disinformation-tracking-center/

I think the ones in bold were all tried by our resident putinbot trolls

Errr...not going to say this...but you sound more and more like a old broken record since you 1st join this Thread.

Anything else new to offer ? 😜

On 2/22/2022 at 12:15 AM, yishunite said:

Wow didnt realise we have so many Russian IBs on this forum...

Ukraine case is exactly why we have NS. If Russia can get away with this, think of what China can get away with later

23 minutes ago, yishunite said:

Your source nicely illustrates the core origin of "whataboutism" has it root from politics of mutual recrimination. 😜

‘Whataboutism’ is part of the American conversation

Whataboutism is a threat to our (American) public discourse. The American public should be informed of this dangerous tactic, lest we unwittingly let the U.S. become more like Russia.

https://dailycollegian.com/2018/04/whataboutism-in-american-politics/

21 minutes ago, yishunite said:

That's the funni part - is this word was created during the Cold War by the English language media.

I have not heard of similar phrase in Chinese media since it exposes the hypocrisy on both sides of the argument.

And this "whataboutism" had gotten so usefully corruptive in any combative system (as in the Cold War), that it is now freq used in politics..  I fond this article from WP,  which mentioned 1 of key ingredient for whataboutism to thrive...is "Hypocrisy" 😜

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/20/what-do-about-whataboutism-politics/

28 minutes ago, yishunite said:

Its funny cos Russia army totally trashing Ukraine until jialat jialat yet Ukraine take back their towns they got so much free time make thousands of convincing fake murder/rape/warcrime stories so well done that not one can be disproven

...and...what is N.A.T.O doing ?

27 minutes ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

Youtube american own mah  try weibo or moscowtube🤪

YouTube is full of nasty pple...including this one from India about America...Nothing beats a "democracy" vs another.

Clearly, "Whataboutism" isn't just a speciality from non-democratic states..😜

10 minutes ago, Ct3833 said:

just go to youtube and randomly find a post that showing Ukraine forces take out Russian Tank, pay special attention to the like and dislike, see how many people post a dislike to the video. If 99.999% of the people click like, then likely they are correct, you can choose not to  trust MCFers. 😄 

hmmm...If we are to take YouTube "Likes" as a measure of "correct" info..then why this story got for few likes? Is this AH-64 kill video exposed by Wikileak fake ?

22 minutes ago, yishunite said:

Another classic e.g. of same Cold War mentality that has never left some even after "USSR" no longer exist over 30 years later. 😜

In fact, this "whataboutism" is a spin-off years ago when Putin reminded Americans hypocrisy 

Perhaps you should read this before posting. 😜

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/03/russia-and-western-double-standards-the-long-history-of-russian-complaints-about-unfair-treatment.html

14 minutes ago, Macrosszero said:

In some weird roundabout way, by reminding all of us that the West has done all these things, is 50ct acknowledging that it is a FACT that Russia has done these same things, but it is ok to do so because the West has done it before?

Actually the Russians has been at it long before you were born - FACT remains US had been involved in more wars than Russian themselves.

Perhaps that is something folks like you prefer to ignore ? 😜

5 hours ago, Throttle2 said:

Look.you slapping a gangster who bullied an old lady and the gangster slapping you for being kaypoh.are they similar?  Well the slap surely is.  The action both had a reason behind it. But beyond that nothing else is. 

Technically speaking in any War, everyone can become a "gangster" when given the power to take or spare lives.... and chance not to get caught.  Or when your commanders briefed you the Ops area is full of enemies and take no chances since anyone can be a spy or even kill you...

That is when the Geneva Convention rules against "inhumane treatment" goes out of the window...so who cares about you slap or rape an "old lady" ?

9 hours ago, yishunite said:

So are u ready to finally admit the truth that ruzzians commit war crimes like raping women girls and babies? Bombing hospitals and civilian shelters? Or this still isnt "truth" to u?

Oh dear...I am going to break someone's heart again...using a real e.g. of War Crime that is much much nearer closer to home...Not Iraq nor in Afghanistan...It is just ONE of many cases that many prefer to forget.

How the US Army Cover-Up Rapes and Massacre in My Lai   (I have post the least explicit photo.. Rest of the image can Google. )

https://www.history.com/news/my-lai-massacre-1968-army-cover-up

2 hours ago, yishunite said:

Everytime wanna mention wrongs of the West in mideast but mention wrongs of Russians and Assad in Syria no sound... just take their diversion for what it is: trolling to distract from current issue since they cant talk abt anything going on in the war in Ukraine now

I don't get it - Every time when MCFers make an example of the "wrongs of the West in mideast", somebody gets....

16 hours ago, Jamesc said:

If Europe gives enough weapons for Ukraine to kick Russia out which the are doing then Ukraine is sitting on enough gas and oil to supply Europe that they don't need Russia. So this is why Europe are so happy to arm Ukraine.

zun boh ?

EU & US had tried doing that before by sending million$ arms to another country for 20 years...that didn't work.  Or perhaps you are suggesting that NATO supply Ukrainian with nuclear weapons  to "kick Russia out" ? 😜

3 minutes ago, Estrangable said:

comrade happy - much as i respect and adore you... u really have the tendency to go off topic sia. post simi grandmother stories over and over le.  no connect , no link sia. alamak. i wont pay 5 cents for this sia... max 3 cents.

Actually hor, I am just following up with your last comment  about "...(BBC) latest nonsense from bulls*hit broadcasting corporation"....hardly a subject of OT leh nor cost you a single cent one.

Isn't that what comrades are for ? 😜

3 hours ago, yishunite said:

So are u ready to finally admit the truth that ruzzians commit war crimes like raping women girls and babies? Bombing hospitals and civilian shelters? Or this still isnt "truth" to u?

Please relac lah - the Ukraine conflict isn't even 2 months old and you already foaming at the mouth crying "war crimes" as the "truth" ? 😝

5 hours ago, Ender said:

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/11/pentagon-monitoring-reports-of-possible-russian-chemical-weapons-attack-in-mariupol.html

Pentagon monitoring reports of possible Russian chemical weapons attack in Mariupol

British Foreign Secretary Liz Truss says her government is working “urgently” to verify details of an alleged chemical weapons attack on residents of the besieged Ukrainian city of Mariupol. A Pentagon spokesperson said the reports were not confirmed, but they reflect U.S. concerns about Russia’s “potential to use a variety of riot control agents, including tear gas mixed with chemical agents, in Ukraine.” If Russia were to be found to have used chemical weapons in the strategic holdout city, it would represent a major escalation of the conflict and present a direct challenge to NATO members

Chemical weapons in Ukraine ? Wow ! Is that even NEWS ?

4 minutes ago, Porker said:

Triple 👍 It's better than Netflix

Netflix is a joke. MCF is the real deal ! 😜

..and as if there is not enough grandmother to show on the BBC, they showcase another one in full combat uniform conducting field exercise...on 26 Jan, just a month before the real thing happened.

Today, we here rapes in war zone. Is that even NEWS ?

Then within 24 hours of the start of military operation, BBC interviewed a "Ukrainian grandmother living in Northern Ireland"... https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-60521018

12 minutes ago, Estrangable said:

look at the latest nonsense from bulls*hit broadcasting corporation. Who can verify that is true? Victor and I definitely believe its not true. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61071243

Ukraine conflict: 'Russian soldiers raped me and killed my husband'

 Being one of your "favorite comrades", it is my pleasure to keep your postings even and objective. 😉

Let's start with that *nonsense from UK-based media ...we know BBC stories can be a double-edged sword...Remember before 24 Feb, it was promoting a story about "78-year-old grandmother training how to use weapons ..She was even quoted by BBC saying "I will resist and I will be furious."

Remember this  ? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61071243